Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Google make the software that runs on Samsung's phones? As for your dislike of 3D Touch, it takes some getting used to, but being able to jump to a common feature of a given app straight from the home screen is very useful. Want to get the directions home? Press hard on Maps and select "home", want to send a new email? Press hard on Mail and select "new message".
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iPhone 6s Bests Samsung's New Galaxy Note 7 in App Speed Test
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I have a Note 7 and iPhone 6S Plus. There's just no comparing the software integration with Apple vs. Samsung. I am a firm believer in both companies, and think it is silly to bash one vs. the other. While the hardware and sheer "product-lust" has shifted over to the Note 7, Apple will always have the better performing phone, and I cannot foresee Samsung beating it in the future. But both phones are absolutely top of the game.
Multi-tasking
and I don't mean that in the way that Apple does it. I do regularly have to have applications that stay running, even when in the background. I do need SSH sessions that cna remain open even if I'm not directly looking at it.
I regularly use multi-window display, without one fo the apps "stopping" for the other one.
I do use iOS on my iPad, and Android on my phone and regularly do try and do similar things, and iOS routinely falls flat. I'm not saying I'm the average user, I understand that i'm not. But the ability to have multiple applications running properly at the same time does assist me, especially if i'm stuck trying to actually have to work from my phone.
Other gripes with iOS that currently prevents it from being capable of being my daily driver:
- No Ability to replace default apps with my own.
- Pausing video / streaming while attempting to multi-task (if i'm in youtube for example, and I use the slideover 2nd program, video pauses. iOS seems incapable of running the two applications in full side by side.
- Inability to access the filesystem
- No Background running tasks (If i'm running monitoring programs in an SSH session in the background for example)
- Notifications (but they look great in iOS10)
- no Tasker
- inability to customise my home screen. I'm still not a fan of the simplistic iOS grid of icons. I have dozen or so widgets on my home screens that provide me easy information. so far the iOS implementation of widgets seems 1/2way (though I like you can see them while locked)
- Customisation Notification light colour
I've always liked the look/feel of the iPhone. But iOS, while fast, is still a very limited OS in many regards. This isn't necessary terrible. But for myself, it doesn't have the necessary capability to allow me to use it as my daily driver phone.
For SSH what about Serverauditor?
any app can background refresh - just a setting app by app.
I use many "non default" apps. mail, calendar....
OS 10 allows for PIP
I'd like more customization of home screen but I love the widget pane - all my widgets in one place accessible from anywhere. if i'm in a program and need a calculator i simply swipe down the widget pane - use it and swipe it away - very efficient.
file systems are old school programming - and i'm an old school programmer. i HATE having to worry about folder and file names - the OS should take care of that for me. That's its job! using PUTTY DRIVES ME NUTS - the folder names at my co are insane.
Thanks for this list of hardware features that are important to you personally.
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Unfortunately this is not so easy. Android OEM's have have hitched their wagons to Android to the point where their business now depends on it. Tizen, as well as any other OS that isn't iOS or Android, is DOA.
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Multi-tasking
and I don't mean that in the way that Apple does it.
Well it's too bad you feel this way because Apple actually does multitasking the right way. There are several types of app categories, like navigation, that are supported for running in the background. It's a very smart way to handle it because very few actually need to be running in the background, and you have an overall better optimized system, as evidenced in this test.
Ok, although you can substitute 'Android' with 'Samsung Galaxy Note' since not all Androids are the same:
1. Stylus: I can take quick, handwritten notes, even on the lock screen of my phone, which save to a file. I get far greater precision when navigating full sites with small text targets (I need this for several web-based work apps)
2. Dedicated back button: This is one of the things that will keep me 'Android' for the forseeable future. It's like moving away from one-button mice for the first time
3. App switcher: The iOS version is similar, except I get a dedicated button for this, and closing multiple apps at once is priceless
3. App tray: I don't have to have my home screens cluttered with everything. The app tray is there for that. The home screen is dedicated (in my case) to widgets like weather and alarms, and frequesntly used apps all arranged how I want to arrange them.
4. File system access: I can organise files and content however I choose to, and wherever I choose to
5. Expandable storage: My Note5 doen't have it, but other Galaxy devices do. I miss it on mine, but I'm under contract recently or I would've upgraded to the Note7 ASAP.
6. Water resistance: Same as above.
7. USB charger: No need for prprpietary anything. I can connect and charge even from borrowed cables. Given that most people have Android phones this is eas(ier). I actually use a Blackberry charger at work I just happened to find in my cubicle from the previous occupant.
8. Multi-tasking (there, I said it
): Apple added some of it recently, for some devices I think. But I need to be able to have, say, Cisco Jabber and my work email or Chrome page open and visible at the same time. Been able to do that for YEARS now. Combined with the stylus (given the even smaller targets due to the shared screen), this is priceless9. Customization: This is the greatest of all. I'm not STUCK with Apple's iOS (or even some Android implementation's) Playskool look. I can install different themes, etc, that really do personalize the device for me.
In short, for me the Galaxy series in particular is the closest we'll get to having macOS on a mobile device, tablet or otherwise.
Hope that helps.
A slightly better performance does not make up for features that are completely missing.
And it shouldn't be up to Apple to decide what apps get to multi-task.
how do you define "multi-tasking" the right way? thats some convolutely Applespeak if I've ever heard.
the "right way" of doing multi-tasking would actually be for any application you start to stay running no matter what (similar to what BB10 did). But, granting that this isn't entirely reasonable all the time,e specially due to battery and performance constraints, there are work aroudns that have to be done to ensure you don't kill your phone in a few minutes.
but "the right way"? come on. Shutting down applications in the background after 3 minutes? its frustrating. especially if you're multi-tasking and regularly switching between things. If I'm switching between outlook and web because of some work, and i happen to be on outlook for 3.2 minutes, I don't want my Safari to be removed from memory.
that is BAD multi-tasking. and in fact, isn't even multi-tasking. its "pretend" multi-tasking. and while that honestly might be good enough for most everyday userse, there are many people (myself included) where it's a hindrance and not a help
Ok, although you can substitute 'Android' with 'Samsung Galaxy Note' since not all Androids are the same:
1. Stylus: I can take quick, handwritten notes, even on the lock screen of my phone, which save to a file. I get far greater precision when navigating full sites with small text targets (I need this for several web-based work apps)
2. Dedicated back button: This is one of the things that will keep me 'Android' for the forseeable future. It's like moving away from one-button mice for the first time
3. App switcher: The iOS version is similar, except I get a dedicated button for this, and closing multiple apps at once is priceless
3. App tray: I don't have to have my home screens cluttered with everything. The app tray is there for that. The home screen is dedicated (in my case) to widgets like weather and alarms, and frequesntly used apps all arranged how I want to arrange them.
4. File system access: I can organise files and content however I choose to, and wherever I choose to
5. Expandable storage: My Note5 doen't have it, but other Galaxy devices do. I miss it on mine, but I'm under contract recently or I would've upgraded to the Note7 ASAP.
6. Water resistance: Same as above.
7. USB charger: No need for prprpietary anything. I can connect and charge even from borrowed cables. Given that most people have Android phones this is eas(ier). I actually use a Blackberry charger at work I just happened to find in my cubicle from the previous occupant.
8. Multi-tasking (there, I said it
9. Customization: This is the greatest of all. I'm not STUCK with Apple's iOS (or even some Android implementation's) Playskool look. I can install different themes, etc, that really do personalize the device for me.
In short, for me the Galaxy series in particular is the closest we'll get to having macOS on a mobile device, tablet or otherwise.
Hope that helps.
Don't forget you also have the "Unfortunately the ... Has stopped"
Or "Force Close".
That would drive nuts. Another one is sometimes is the battery indicator will show 88% for example then restart your phone and now you have 76%.
Or the random restarts.
The minimum weekly needed restarts to refresh ram and just to make it plainly behave correctly.
These are just a few of the plethora of reasons I would purchase the latest Android and after a couple months come right back to Apple. I admit Apple has issues occasionally but they are so far and few compared to Android that they are minuscule.
I've never had those problems on either platform. The worst on Android was the Media server bug, but that was fixed a while ago.
Okay, huh? In your example, if the Ferrari is the phone, then the engine would be the processor or something like that. The OS would be the active stability controls and aerodynamics and shifting and braking and such that the Ferrari's computer handles.
Which, yeah, to be fair, I would not buy a Ferrari if the stability controls were made by anybody other than Ferrari (to say nothing of Hyundai). I wouldn't buy it if Porsche coded the stuff, even though Porsche makes some properly fantastic driver's cars, considering Porsche doesn't know how the Ferrari was built so how are they to know how it will behave with their code.
So your analogy still supports your argument. Just, you know... now how you worded it.
I own a Huawei Mate 8 and no app has ever shut down unexpectedly. My phone has never randomly rebooted either. The processor is super snappy, the screen is 6 inches and the battery life is the best in the world.
I love it and can highly recommend it.
Maybe you've been buying the wrong Android phones in the past?
Hmmm.
I have had the "Unfortunately the ... Has stopped" issue but none of the others you mention, in 3 years of using the devices in question. And definitely not as much as you imply by even bringing it up.
I restart my device nightly, so maybe that's why.
No device is without issues, but the question was what I can do with Android that I can't with Apple.
Even with the 3 issues you provide above happening every once in a while, I'd still be able to live with them rather than put up with being without the nine dealbreakers I mentioned in my post.
But hey, if you can, then keep calm and carry on.
I'm not going to jump on the previous posters bandwagon of "I can do everything you can do" because I understand that every device has it's positives and that based on use case we'll all choose the device that's right for us. But I do take issue with this statement.
As a casually interested user of several generations of Samsung devices, Touchwiz infused Android has none of the power, utility, stability, or simplicity of macOS. iOS doesn't have the power or utility of a Mac either, but it does grant greater stability and simplicity.
And sure, it's my use case that makes me appreciate the stability and simplicity of iOS over the utility features you mentioned in Touchwiz infused Android devices. So that's a personal preference in the phone you chose. But in no way could I ever approach doing even my hobbies (to say nothing of my job) on a Samsung device. It's a phone OS, and doesn't approach macOS in any meaningful way.
Would love to, but apparently that link is more popular than they expected. Can't get it to load to save my life. Don't suppose there's a mirror of it anywhere?
Would love to, but apparently that link is more popular than they expected. Can't get it to load to save my life. Don't suppose there's a mirror of it anywhere?
Hm. Their whole site is down I think.
This idiotic comment is where I officially stop reading any of your posts.
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Okay, huh? In your example, if the Ferrari is the phone, then the engine would be the processor or something like that. The OS would be the active stability controls and aerodynamics and shifting and braking and such that the Ferrari's computer handles.
Which, yeah, to be fair, I would not buy a Ferrari if the stability controls were made by anybody other than Ferrari (to say nothing of Hyundai). I wouldn't buy it if Porsche coded the stuff, even though Porsche makes some properly fantastic driver's cars, considering Porsche doesn't know how the Ferrari was built so how are they to know how it will behave with their code.
So your analogy still supports your argument. Just, you know... now how you worded it.
I didn't understand any of that but I appreciate your support!
went from Android to iphone 6s plus last year. Looking for a reason to go back, but the only game I play (Simpsons Tapped out) is terrible on any android device compared to iphone. Camera on iphone is good enough for me, which to say is spectacular. Never had an issue with taking pictures or video with the stabilization. Was going to get the note 7 but every place is sold out and when I went to the store to play with it, it was nice but optimization without rooting or jailbreaking is what sells me and iphone wins, basically destroys, android on optimization.
Hmm...so sounds like you agree that they did multi-tasking the right way considering that there currently isn't a better solution due to the constraints that you mention.
thats not at all what I said.
your spinning just to fit your own bias. stop it.
better yet. You can get added to the ignore list
This is what I meant when I said "closest" and not "equal to".
But perhaps I should have said a "full desktop OS", rather than macOS specifically, and thrown a "for me" in there as well, so as to avoid knee-jerk reactions.
And yet, the spirit of what I meant to say was lost in translation, so let me clarify:
"Android and TouchWiz offer me capabilities and features in a mobile device that, should I choose Apple as a vendor, would only be available under a macOS device."
I also realize that my use case is not everybody's, but this is another factually true statement:
"I am able to perfom all my work duties (Telecom Operations engineer) from my Samsung device (optimal conditions notwithstanding), whereas it is IMPOSSIBLE to do so on an iOS device of any kind."
So you're taking your ball and going home? Because I pointed out that you want to sit on both sides of the fence? That hurts my feelings.
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Ok, I'll take this one.
Ipad mini 2, was fluent 3 years ago, i have had one around that time, together with an ipad air. No problems whatsoever. After a few updates it got slower, i agree.
BTW ipad air 2 was not released last year, it was the year before.
But which android/samsung has remained fluent after more than a year, and gets regular updates?
The samsung note tablet clearly had slowdowns, even when it was released, you can see all kind of reviews of it. The nexus 7 has had all kind of problems.
So with which tablet of 3 years ago you want to compare it to?
As far as i can see, ipad mini would be still the best choice.
But $800? Damn...
Ah, there's the list of caveats that concerned me. And while it baffles me that there is any profession out there under which all duties can be performed on a mobile OS (mine certainly can't, and that's more a function of available software and inputs, as opposed to split screen support or any other feature Samsung seems to focus on), my profession is certainly not representative.
Is it really that baffling?
What exactly do you do that is somehow so universal so as to cause you surprise when someone says they can use a mobile OS for work.
Even Timmy C said he can, and iOS is about the most limited mobile OS out there.
Android makes my phone a pocket-PC. iOS is not even close.