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iPhone 6s Camera Worse than 5s? Pics

thedatapusher said:
I'm not a photographer. Never said I was, but people keep saying that. I work in VXF as a video engineer and comp/cleanup/beauty artist for movies commercials and music videos. You've all seen my work wether you realize it or not. That's besides the point. Not a photographer and never claimed to be.

The whole point of this thread was to see if I was missing a setting like Live or something I wasn't doing right and to diagnose the issue.

If this is all due to nr and automagically making pictures pretty, then make that a toggle, cause I sure as hell can make that darker 5s picture look a crap ton better than their auto cleanup. And lightening and blurring a picture to make it look prettier is a garbage idea. If you're gonna blur, then at least regrain for depth and texture. Or keep the details of the shot at least as a backup like HDR keep orig
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I'm really not coming across tonight :(
I didn't mean to imply you were a photographer by trade. We all call ourselves photographers when we are taking photos, or maybe we don't, but anyway, you sounded like you knew more than I did about photos when you mentioned something about a multiple thousand dollar editing suite. I assumed, maybe erroneously, that you mentioned that to let us know you were more than just an amateur.

I'm just going to shut up now. I hope your new phone fixed your issues.
 
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ToddH said:
Those lighting conditions are WAY TO DARK for the iPhone! You should know that if you have a decent photography background. In this image you took, the iPhone camera is using the highest iso setting it can reach, which is not good. I think you guys are expecting too much from the iPhone camera in those conditions. Even my pro DSLR would need at least ISO 6400 or higher to get a bright enough shot and it would be noisy. I'll say it again, if you want better night shots, I suggest the Cortex camera app and possibly a tripod... Or, get an app like 645 pro where you can fully adjust the iPhone camera manually (shutter and iso) to lower the noise. The lower the ISO, the cleaner the image. And if there is low light, low iso will be hard to handhold and you will most likely get motion blur.
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I downloaded the 645 Pro app! Holy crap it's awesome!!! I feel like I just bought a new camera. LOL thanks for sharing that!
 
Yeah, I don't like some of the overly processed pictures, way too smoothed out sometimes. The 645 app is nice and there are many others that you can use to avoid the Apple processing.
 
This was taken with my 6s, I was photographing my 5s to sell it, notice the horrible 'watercolor/monet' effect top right, compare it to the bottom, it's laughable!

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I'm going to check out this 645 app. Sounds like just what I want. Let me set my own settings and I'll do the post processing out of device as needed.
 
lordofthereef,

I think I'm bring misinterpreted, I took no offense and that wasn't directed at you. I think I saw a few people mention it so I just didn't want for people thinking that I thought that I was a photographer or something. While I do know quite a lot about it through my trade, I simply have no eye for taking a great picture. If I get a great shot then it's because I took a ton of pictures to stack the deck or it was an anomaly. My 5 year old takes better shots than I do, unfortunately. I just know how to make it better with the aid of my laptop.
 
I use the Camera+ when I want a lot of control over individual settings, but I second Cortex cam. It takes multiple pictures then combines them into one, but the result is often amazing. I took a few scenic pictures and the detail that you get out of it is crazy if you do it properly.
 
SteveJobs2.0 said:
I use the Camera+ when I want a lot of control over individual settings, but I second Cortex cam. It takes multiple pictures then combines them into one, but the result is often amazing. I took a few scenic pictures and the detail that you get out of it is crazy if you do it properly.
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Cortex is a cool app. Only works on still objects. Cool idea.
 
iPhone cameras have never been good for low light shots and the 6S is no exception. I own the camera+ and PureShot apps but haven't played around with them much. I might try to do some low light tests using these apps tonight to see how lower ISO shots compare to the default app.

Not a fan of the noise reduction of all the 6 models. You don't don't have to be a pixel peeper to notice it. That's being said, I do think there are a lot of scenarios where the 6S camera outshines the previous iPhone cameras (the recent camera comparison macrumors posted a link to illustrates this), and its video abilities are the best.
 
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So how does 6s compare with 6 then? I've never owned a 5s but feel 6 camera is brilliant
 
I will say camera aside and the cosmetic issues, this new (s) runs crazy fast.

Referring to the camera, the user accessible post processing tools in camera are great. I was able to take a shot and fully cc it in phone with great results. There was edge blurring, but the cc tools are very nice. Why not add DNR to that menu.
 
trifid said:
This was taken with my 6s, I was photographing my 5s to sell it, notice the horrible 'watercolor/monet' effect top right, compare it to the bottom, it's laughable!

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i gotta admit,
unless you tempered with this pic,
it's indeed horrible.
something is definitely wrong up there.
 
maflynn said:
Actually its both, because more pixels are crammed in and the aperture wasn't increased there's less light per pixel.
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Exactly. I am baffled why Apple increased the number of pixels which entailed decreasing their size but did not lower the aperture down from 2 to 1.8. I do not get that. Both the S6 and the G4 did that. If they did that then low light pics would not have suffered.
 
Newtons Apple said:
Apple has no choice except to crank up the NR (noise reduction) in lower light. Cramming more pickets on the same size sensor will yield more detail in good light but when the NR kicks in in low light you will get "mush".

I would love Apple to allow us to turn the NR off.
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They had a choice. They could have changed the f stop from 2 to 1.8 to allow more light for the smaller pixels on the same size sensor. They chose not to do that. Anyone knows why?
 
nj1266 said:
Exactly. I am baffled why Apple increased the number of pixels which entailed decreasing their size but did not lower the aperture down from 2 to 1.8. I do not get that. Both the S6 and the G4 did that. If they did that then low light pics would not have suffered.
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The aperture on 6s is f/2.2 actually.
What Apple basically did for the 6 and 6s cameras is crank up the noise reduction. The sensor size is the same as the 5s. The lens system is the same. The aperture is the same.
 
I haven't followed all the way through the entire thread, but.. since it is what it is, why not use a camera app, other than the native one, which doesn't use Apple's jpg engine? I've noticed Camera+ to give cleaner low light detail - none of that smoothing I see from the native app.
 
nj1266 said:
They had a choice. They could have changed the f stop from 2 to 1.8 to allow more light for the smaller pixels on the same size sensor. They chose not to do that. Anyone knows why?
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iPhone 7 obviously needs something as well...
 
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