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Agree. My 5s is so much better. Apples algorithm 6 on is just terrible.
 

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I had trouble getting correct exposure on my 6s today... Really odd, totally overexposed. After locking and unlocking a few times and changing modes it eventually returned back to normal.

This reoccurred 3-4 times on our walk.

Has anyone else experienced this?
 

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Exactly. I am baffled why Apple increased the number of pixels which entailed decreasing their size but did not lower the aperture down from 2 to 1.8. I do not get that. Both the S6 and the G4 did that. If they did that then low light pics would not have suffered.

The difference between f/1.8 and f2 is a third of a stop.
f1.8 1/40 s
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f2.0, 1/30 s




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f/4 1/10 sec
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Nikon D7000, ISO 800, no flash, cheap tripod, focus point rather carelessly chosen
Quite honestly, if I were to choose between an f2 lens and f1.8 lens, I would focus on something other than maximum aperture--sharpness, price, speed of focus.
If I wanted speed above all, I'd be looking at f1.4 lenses-- a full stop faster than f2. Such a lens would let me take that photo at 1/60 sec (or 1/30th using ISO 400)
 

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100% real. Here's another example comparing 5s vs 6s, notice the background and the shadows, particularly the shadow on the lower right corner:

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Is this regular mode or HDR mode? See I think you all need to use HDR mode all the time, weather you need it or not. It combines 3 images. It may help! HDR is not used among most iPhone photographers because it is always over looked. In fact, I don't think anyone but me remembers to activate it...am I wrong? I turn it on for every photo for the best quality.
 
I had trouble getting correct exposure on my 6s today... Really odd, totally overexposed. After locking and unlocking a few times and changing modes it eventually returned back to normal.

This reoccurred 3-4 times on our walk.

Has anyone else experienced this?

You have to remember that the iPhones metering system is a spot meter so whatever you touch to get the exposure on, it will read it from a spot meters point of view. You also should be using HDR mode more than not. It will help with your blown highlights and help with shadow detail. For some reason most people do not remember to turn HDR on. IOS 9 you have to turn on every time you open the camera for some reason. I use the HDR mode for every photo no matter what the lighting conditions are.
 
This was taken with my 6s, I was photographing my 5s to sell it, notice the horrible 'watercolor/monet' effect top right, compare it to the bottom, it's laughable!

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Was this in HDR mode? If not you might want to reshoot this image in HDR mode and see how much better it looks. Everybody always forgets about HDR but complain about blown highlights an incorrect exposures. But I guess if you're not photographers by trade or by nature, you're not going to remember the simple tidbits to improve your iPhone photography.
 
100% real. Here's another example comparing 5s vs 6s, notice the background and the shadows, particularly the shadow on the lower right corner:

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yes, but what to do now? do you send your 6s back and keep the 5s?

i love the big screen of my 6s and the 5s looks so tiny now. but the camera of iphone 6s just sucks.
 
i went from a 5S to a 6S as well, and I'm finding the new phone to be HDR'ing the photos quite a bit without HDR being on. I don't like image processing. I think they've gone a bit heavy on the processing side with this new phone. I'd rather have noisy / dark blacks and blown out highlights than artificial colours, at least then the photos can have some atmosphere/mood...
 
100% real. Here's another example comparing 5s vs 6s, notice the background and the shadows, particularly the shadow on the lower right corner:

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the 5S has a better white balance - the 6S is clearly greener. and the details are washed out by the aggressive noise reduction. wow. great to see i'm not the only one who's disappointed in the new phone's camera. Video looks great though...
 
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They had a choice. They could have changed the f stop from 2 to 1.8 to allow more light for the smaller pixels on the same size sensor. They chose not to do that. Anyone knows why?

Going from f2 to f1.8 would not have been enough and it would have also made the lens bigger. People complain about it sticking out the back now.

All of this does not matter as what we have here I what Apple offered and it is not going to change now.
 
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100% real. Here's another example comparing 5s vs 6s, notice the background and the shadows, particularly the shadow on the lower right corner:

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i don't know, this is terrible.
did you disable Live Photos?
i really believe it supposed to provide better results than this.
 
Going from f2 to f1.8 would not have been enough and it would have also made the lens bigger. People complain about it sticking out the back now.

All of this does not matter as what we have here I what Apple offered and it is not going to change now.
They'd be going from f/2.2 not f/2.0.
There is a noticeable difference in brightness of S6 photos (f/1.9) compared to iPhone 6s (f/2.2).
 
They'd be going from f/2.2 not f/2.0.
There is a noticeable difference in brightness of S6 photos (f/1.9) compared to iPhone 6s (f/2.2).

Agreed it is a difference but with even that Apple would still have to use heavy amount of noise control in images with less than good light!

Like I said it make no difference now as it is done and you got what you got!
 
I noticed this exact same thing on the first day I had my iPhone 6 last year. Took a bunch of pictures of the family outdoors in bright light and the details were all smeared. My wife kept her 5s over the last year, so I had a lot of chance to compare over time. To me, in the end there is no question that overall I prefer the grain of the 5s to the smoothing of the 6/6s, but the latter cameras do do many things better, and at the size that most people view their pictures, the newer cameras do often look better.

I am interested in these alternative camera apps if they are able to avoid that processing, however it looks like most of them suggested here focus on improving low light performance by layering multiple images. Great for landscape or scenes that sit still, but most of my shots are of people and especially my children. Are there any recommended apps that shoot as fast as the native camera app, but use different processing?
 
Agreed it is a difference but with even that Apple would still have to use heavy amount of noise control in images with less than good light!

Like I said it make no difference now as it is done and you got what you got!
Of course noise reduction would still be necessary in low light, but even a relatively small reduction of ISO in low light would reduce the amount of NR needed.
 
Of course noise reduction would still be necessary in low light, but even a relatively small reduction of ISO in low light would reduce the amount of NR needed.


I agree again but the remaining NR would still make darker areas mush. I am not complaining and am very happy with my 6S+. Just wish that we could turn off NR so I can apply it in PS if needed.
 
I agree again but the remaining NR would still make darker areas mush. I am not complaining and am very happy with my 6S+. Just wish that we could turn off NR so I can apply it in PS if needed.
6s+ handles low light slightly better than the regular 6. The stock app will go as slow as 1/4s shutter speed due to OIS. The regular 6 can only go up to 1/12s or 1/10s, so it has to up the ISO (and NR) more in low light situations.
 
Is this regular mode or HDR mode? See I think you all need to use HDR mode all the time, weather you need it or not. It combines 3 images. It may help! HDR is not used among most iPhone photographers because it is always over looked. In fact, I don't think anyone but me remembers to activate it...am I wrong? I turn it on for every photo for the best quality.
Always use HDR, i can then compare later :)
 
6s+ handles low light slightly better than the regular 6. The stock app will go as slow as 1/4s shutter speed due to OIS. The regular 6 can only go up to 1/12s or 1/10s, so it has to up the ISO (and NR) more in low light situations.
How do you work that out?
The old 6 Plus would handle up to 1/2sec whereas the new 6s Plus is only 1/3sec.
 
I currently have the Note 5, and yes the camera is GREAT! However, if you zoom in prior to taking a picture, well not so good! So again, pixel really aren't everything! What do we use camera phones for? Ask yourself that? Ok, end of story, unless you have a Lumia or an older Nokia, which take forever to take a picture, there isn't much of a competition. I hate going on all these websites and seeing side by sides. To me for the most part they look the same. If I want "raw" which I currently have on my Note 5, and never have used, I will get a "Real" camera!
 
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How do you work that out?
The old 6 Plus would handle up to 1/2sec whereas the new 6s Plus is only 1/3sec.
6 Plus can go as slow as 1/4s in the stock camera app. Using a 3rd party app, it can go as slow as 1/2s.
I assumed the same goes for 6s plus.
 
Gonna jump in here, having upgraded from the 5S straight to the 6S. I notice better low light ability in my 6S. Here is a pic I took a few days ago that just happens to apply here I think. I think the camera did an excellent job capturing and metering this. Noise is minimal and the deer seem mostly clear. And this was a quick pull up and snap pic through a windshield.

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