'iPhone 6s' Logic Board Suggests 16GB Base Model and Updated NFC Hardware

[MaSx]

I just love how people rather argue against something that they themselves would appreciate if Apple were to make 32GB as a standard. How can you not see that we are all in this together as consumer. Also, if people didn't complain/suggest/argue about iPhone features, we would still be stuck without copy/paste, notification/control center (Android) and so much more! You all know that. Let's not forget iPhone would still be in perfect size 3.5in.

We are all entitled to our own opinion but how can free upgrade to 32GB with the price of 16GB be upsetting and/or people not be in favor of such change? Why so many people are against this when it would be beneficial to all.

There are too many things that have changed but Apple's storage for iPhone and iCloud has not. Contents are huge and gotten so much bigger now. Let's consider few things; iOS size+ future iOS updates, Apple's bloatware (no way to remove them), and pretty much all the apps size has doubled. But once again iPhone storage or iCloud has not changed. If Apple is all about consumer, why are we still stuck with this kind of standard for iPhone and iCloud?

 

[Zxxv]

there are 104 weeks between 2years , so start saving a $1 or a £1 a week. Put it in a jar. Hey presto you go up a level in iPhone purchase. That leaves apple with the dilemma of how to fill the bottom space, but if I were apple I wouldn't care. I'd just make less 16gb models and give the impression they are selling, hell they could make and sell 50 16gb models and keep the same pricing structure.

 

[Abazigal]

I just love how people rather argue against something that they themselves would appreciate if Apple were to make 32GB as a standard. How can you not see that we are all in this together as consumer. Also, if people didn't complain/suggest/argue about iPhone features, we would still be stuck without copy/paste, notification/control center (Android) and so much more! You all know that. Let's not forget iPhone would still be in perfect size 3.5in.

It's debatable how much of an impact customer "complaints" has had on Apple's design process. For all we know, those were simply features Apple had always intended to implement, just that Apple had to prioritise the order in which they were implemented, and certain features like copy-and-paste simply needed more time to refine.

We are all entitled to our own opinion but how can free upgrade to 32GB with the price of 16GB be upsetting and/or people not be in favor of such change? Why so many people are against this when it would be beneficial to all.

I am not against such a change. I am against the "I am so important and Apple needs to listen to me or else" attitude in which some people are putting forward such a change. Like Apple owes them or something.

There are too many things that have changed but Apple's storage for iPhone and iCloud has not. Contents are huge and gotten so much bigger now. Let's consider few things; iOS size+ future iOS updates, Apple's bloatware (no way to remove them), and pretty much all the apps size has doubled. But once again iPhone storage or iCloud has not changed. If Apple is all about consumer, why are we still stuck with this kind of standard for iPhone and iCloud?

Because being pro-consumer doesn't necessarily mean giving away free stuff. It just means putting out a product that promises to work great, but the onus is still on you as a consumer to pick the the option which best suits your needs.

Case in point - the 2012 Macbook Pro, which Apple hasn't updated since 2012. Or the entry level 2015 iMac with integrated graphics. How come no one ever complains about that? That's right, because although we all know it sucks, we also know that we don't have to buy it and thus can ignore its existence in favour of an upgraded version that does better suit our needs (which incidentally also cost more).

Why can't people just ignore the existence of the 16gb iPhone here?

Besides, isn't that what Apple is trying to change? Features like App thinning promise to reduce the size of apps (by as much as half). You can always upload your photos to icloud photo library and optimise the size (though past a certain point, you are probably better off just ponying up the extra $100 for more storage rather than trying to jump through hoops and purchase extra icloud storage and all).

 

[ct1211]

Why can't they just up the base model to 32 GB already?

It costs more to own Apple products. People still buy the 16GB and for those who want to store more data they ultimately pay recurring fees for cloud storage. Apple would prefer this over even the extra $100.00 for the 64GB upgrade. Its a profit strategy for Apple and its working for them. Not you.

 

[Geekazoid]

Why can't they just up the base model to 32 GB already?

Well you see, if they did that not many people would use the cloud storage much and also it would mean that Apple would make less money because most people would just buy the base 32GB model, instead of opting for a higher capacity model, and this wouldn't be good for Apple because they LOOOOVE money, and when you love money and care more about what's best for your greed, *cough* I mean, company and not what's best for your customers, then that's the result.

 

[ct1211]

Or a 16GB is more profitable move, cause people will go to the 64GB knowing 16GB is not enough for another £80. It vlever marketing to get more money from you.

Apple would rather sell everyone a 16GB phone as long as they opt for cloud storage. Recurring revenue (monthly payments for storage) is where the profit fattening potential is!

 

[cheesyappleuser]

So converting in UK pounds is around £39 a month, that's an amazing deal!! In the UK that will get you only around 2GB usage allowance, plus you pay a lot for the for the 16GB iPhone still. But you may be able to haggle of course.

Depends. If you use one of Three's plans, purchasing an unlocked iPhone separately, you might spend just a bit less
And you won't need to upgrade every two years

 

[MH01]

Apologists??? I take offense to your comment. I don't see one person here that said, "I think Apple is doing the right thing with 16GB and 32GB should not be considered as the base". Not a single person has said that. If you're going to rudely label people here for not being totally against what Apple is doing, then the ones that hate what Apple is doing deserve a label too. Must we consistently disrespect others on this forum??

OMG the hypocrisy of this post!!! Ha ha ha

Do you have a better term for someone take takes apple's side in every single thread? The word apologist gets used here as fanboy is not allowed!! You do realise this no?

Sorry Henry, I just have to add that after years of reading your posts and having debates with you, you have a massive bias towards apple, and on so many occasions I have seen you have personal digs at posters, who posted anti apple comments.

You ARE the boy who cried wolf, I have seen you running to the mods saying that a debate has become personal in nature and offensive to YOU, while u omit you gave just as well as you took! Resulting in comment being removed!

I 100% agree that we should we respectful to each other so, judging from your post here can we agree to take the personal out of posts? You me and everyone? Let's to it!!

I will bookmark this post!!

Though I'm certain you will ignore this comment! As it demonstrates fault on all parties involved!

 

[MH01]

Apple would rather sell everyone a 16GB phone as long as they opt for cloud storage. Recurring revenue (monthly payments for storage) is where the profit fattening potential is!

Actually that is a valid point. I agree with you.

 

[MH01]

"Let's me honest, all of us on here will go for the 64gb model at least, apple gets the extra money."

Bad use of words on my behalf, hence I changed it, "all" is not realistic .

 

[cfedu]

1920x1080 on Windows Laptops in 06-07? Are you serious? Even in 2010 that was very very rare. In 06-07 1280x720 or 1366x768 were Standard, even in higher end laptops. Having FullHD in Laptops is still a pretty recent that was triggered by Apple's move to retina displays.

My first laptop was a dell (8500) that had a 1920 x 1200 display and that was back in 2003.

 

[nando87]

16GB base = once again NO new iphone for me... My 4S is still good but i'm planning on getting a new one within the year. I could wait till iPhone 7 but I need at least 32GB, and I'm not planning on spending more than 700 euros.

I'm getting myself an Android (Xiaomi Mi4) if Apple disappoints again till then. Sorry.

PFFFFF what a joke

 

[Donoban]

16GB base = once again NO new iphone for me... My 4S is still good but i'm planning on getting a new one within the year. I could wait till iPhone 7 but I need at least 32GB, and I'm not planning on spending more than 700 euros.

I'm getting myself an Android (Xiaomi Mi4) if Apple disappoints again till then. Sorry.

Oh lord Chris. This makes no sense. If you want 32gb why don't you buy a 32gb iPhone? Why jump ship now? It's just a pointless argument.

I think what I'm hearing is, you want to pay the least amount possible, like $5 for an iPhone that has 10 terabytes of available storage. Lolz.

let me now have a rant. I've gone off MacRumors and made 9to5mac my primary Mac news site. The main MacRumors page has too many articles written as advertisements and the rants in the forums have just done my head in.

Who really cares if I stay or leave, just like you switching to Android. OK, rant over. Good luck with your Android.

 

[Neodym]

Storage options for iPhone 9 in 2020: 16GB, 512GB, 768GB.

In unrelated news: Apple expects delivery delays on the entry model due to unexpected bottlenecks in component sourcing ...

 

[bigchrisfgb]

I just love how people rather argue against something that they themselves would appreciate if Apple were to make 32GB as a standard. How can you not see that we are all in this together as consumer. Also, if people didn't complain/suggest/argue about iPhone features, we would still be stuck without copy/paste, notification/control center (Android) and so much more! You all know that. Let's not forget iPhone would still be in perfect size 3.5in.

We are all entitled to our own opinion but how can free upgrade to 32GB with the price of 16GB be upsetting and/or people not be in favor of such change? Why so many people are against this when it would be beneficial to all.

There are too many things that have changed but Apple's storage for iPhone and iCloud has not. Contents are huge and gotten so much bigger now. Let's consider few things; iOS size+ future iOS updates, Apple's bloatware (no way to remove them), and pretty much all the apps size has doubled. But once again iPhone storage or iCloud has not changed. If Apple is all about consumer, why are we still stuck with this kind of standard for iPhone and iCloud?

I agree with you about how debates and change in wants have led to a greater iPhone.
I think the main point here though is that people say they want the 16GB model dropped, they don't. Those who say they do would be more than happy with a 16GB option so long as the 32GB option was at the same price point as the 16GB is now.

 

[Geekazoid]

Storage options for iPhone 9 in 2020: 16GB, 512GB, 768GB.

Correction: 16GB | 1TB | 4TB

 

[apolloa]

Depends. If you use one of Three's plans, purchasing an unlocked iPhone separately, you might spend just a bit less
And you won't need to upgrade every two years

So 3 offer unlimited data plans for £39 a month then plus calls and text?

 

[bking10]

oh man, to be a corporation where it's consumers will argue that it's ok for you to screw them for profits. Apple sure lives the dream

 

[jcmeyer5]

Curios that they didn't note any new connections or chips related to the ForceTouch stuff?

 

[Retired Cat]

I am not against such a change. I am against the "I am so important and Apple needs to listen to me or else" attitude in which some people are putting forward such a change. Like Apple owes them or something.

My observation is that a substantial portion of people here feel that Apple is falling behind the competition in terms of storage. This is more akin to being dissatisfied with the hometown sports team for not keeping up, rather than being "owed" free stuff.

Besides, isn't that what Apple is trying to change? Features like App thinning promise to reduce the size of apps (by as much as half). You can always upload your photos to icloud photo library and optimise the size (though past a certain point, you are probably better off just ponying up the extra $100 for more storage rather than trying to jump through hoops and purchase extra icloud storage and all).

I am waiting on iOS 9 and the new app distribution scheme before making final judgement on the 16GB iPhones. If Apple makes good on its stated intention to shrink the iOS footprint and reduce app bloat, 16GB might be ok for the average user.

I have to say that iOS 7 and 8 and increasingly huge apps over the past 2 years has made 16GB feel a bit tight for many users. People are justified in their concern that 16GB is not enough for a good experience on a premium priced phone. Only time will tell if Apple delivers on its iOS 9 promise.

 

[Macboy Pro]

I thought that the most plausible explanation for why Apple ships a 16GB base configuration is this: There simply isn't enough supply of NAND in the world to add a 32GB chip to every single iPhone in the world.

If that were true, though, I am not sure they'd still be doing it again this year. I think that it's a business decision spurred by the knowledge that far more people will be willing to spend that $100 extra to jump from 16GB to 64GB. Still, if Apple values the user experience of their products above all else, that seems like a short-sighted move. Let's hope this gets improved upon when the iPhone 7 (or whatever it's called) launches.

(None of this is addressed at you, just commenting on the overall )
Unfortunately, it's a business decision, but based on MONEY, not that there isn't enough NAND. If it were the latter, they are shooting themselves in the foot by forcing people to buy 64 when they only need and want 32. It is ALL ABOUT MONEY with Apple. You'll hear everyone on this forum complain about the big Telcos making money, but no one cares about Apple's unbelievable pricing and their excessive available cash.

Personally I don't care if companies make money and make a lot of it. Its is really good to have a free market. I just can't stand the double standards with Apple. They are the greediest company this planets has ever know, BY FAR.

 

[Macboy Pro]

My observation is that a substantial portion of people here feel that Apple is falling behind the competition in terms of storage. This is more akin to being dissatisfied with the hometown sports team for not keeping up, rather than being "owed" free stuff.



I am waiting on iOS 9 and the new app distribution scheme before making final judgement on the 16GB iPhones. If Apple makes good on its stated intention to shrink the iOS footprint and reduce app bloat, 16GB might be ok for the average user.

I have to say that iOS 7 and 8 and increasingly huge apps over the past 2 years has made 16GB feel a bit tight for many users. People are justified in their concern that 16GB is not enough for a good experience on a premium priced phone. Only time will tell if Apple delivers on its iOS 9 promise.

16GB is not tight. 16GB is UNUSABLE. If people can get by with 16GB, they likely are not using their smartphone as a smartphone.
My issue is that Apple charges the same price for NAND that is dropping in price like crazy. Why not charge the same and put in equal value of NAND (lets say 32GB). Its MONEY. Strictly ways to manipulate people to pay more.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

How about Apple gets ahead of themselves and competition and release 64GB as the base? Offer 128GB as $100 option. Make one phone that is compatible with all the networks.
From the SKU perspective that would be a win-win for them and for the user. For the next iPhone , call it 7 next year, they should then introduce 256GB storage option and keep 64/128/256 just to kill competition.
I think they need to start doing to crazy things in the good sense to keep people attracted to the platform.
I know this is wishful thinking, but it is Apple nonetheless, so anything can happen.

I agree.

64, 128 and 256 is what Apple should be offering. And the same for the iPad, if not 128, 256 and 512GB.

Such a move would put all complaints to rest. Apple's profits may go down, but their reputation for putting the customer first would be restored.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

It's difficult to determine this, as no pattern exists yet.

Phone / lowest memory model at release :

original / 4
3G / 8
3GS / 16
4 / 16
4S / 16
5 / 16
5C / 16
5S / 16
6 / 16
6+ / 16

If Apple had stuck to doubling the base storage as they did for the second and third iPhones, then we should be looking forward to a 2TB 6s iPhone, with 4TB and 8TB options.

Seems to me that Moore's Law has fallen woefully behind in storage terms. I would love an 8TB iPad. I could put all my DVDs onto it then, and back it all up if Apple offered 8TB iCloud space.

I also think Apple should offer unlimited iCloud space for $5 a month. Most people would only need a little, so they would still make a profit on it.

 

[Edgar Spayce]

If entry model is 16GB, definitely switching to Galaxy after having 5 iPhones.