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Indeed.

The problem with corruption is that it starts insidiously in the heart of man and goes unrecognised for a while. By the time it becomes apparent, it may be too late to mend it.

So it is with Apple.

Corruption? You realize 'corruption', like many words, has a specific meaning. What, in your mind, does corruption have to do with Apple producing a 16GB iPhone 6s?
 
Corruption? You realize 'corruption', like many words, has a specific meaning. What, in your mind, does corruption have to do with Apple producing a 16GB iPhone 6s?

I should imagine that it's something to do with a premium 'no holds barred' product being sold in a market where 32GB is the new base level, with 16GB of frankly insufficient storage space. People were growing tired of Apple's incremental updates but the i6 & 6+ pushed people over the edge because what was once seen as stingy (1GB of RAM) was shown in the latest phones to actually be plain insuffient. Who would have imagined insuffient specs on a top of the line device? Now with the 6S rolling up with 16GB of base storage, well it's a joke isn't it. Having to pay extra to get basic 2015 specs on a premium-priced smartphone. Specs ALL the competitors offer inclusively. Come on now, iPhones just aren't good enough anymore to carry these storage upgrade pricing tiers.
 
Everyone is eating up this stuff. lol.

For sure. It continues to amaze me how people willingly give so much power to a company to the point that that company's business decisions regarding a 100 buck option really does drive them crazy.

Yet rather than switch brands because they're so upset, they continue to buy Apple products and be dominated by that power as if it's an unsurmountable force. Funny as heck to watch. And weird.
 
Absolute FAIL.. No modern flagship phone should ship with less than 64GB STANDARD. This goes for Samsung also. I chose a 64GB S6 edge as the second option though. The cloud argument is a load of crap. Storage is so cheap nowadays that Apple should just stick a 64GB chip in there with no cost increase

Apple should make the entry level 32GB but there's one reason the probably won't: they don't want a bunch of downgrades from 64GB owners. Neil Cybart who runs the Apple centric site Above Avalon claims that keeping the entry level storage at 16Gb is saving Apple $3B.

they can EASILY make 64GB standard! Storage costs are so low today!

16GB base = once again NO new iphone for me... My 4S is still good but i'm planning on getting a new one within the year. I could wait till iPhone 7 but I need at least 32GB, and I'm not planning on spending more than 700 euros.

I'm getting myself an Android (Xiaomi Mi4) if Apple disappoints again till then. Sorry.
S6.. loving my edge 64gb
 
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For sure. It continues to amaze me how people willingly give so much power to a company to the point that that company's business decisions regarding a 100 buck option really does drive them crazy.

Yet rather than switch brands because they're so upset, they continue to buy Apple products and be dominated by that power as if it's an unsurmountable force. Funny as heck to watch. And weird.

Some of us actually care if Apple is successful in the long-term, not just the deal we get or whether we're smart enough to buy the non-base model.

Personally, I could care less about this specific issue... I'll probably just buy the 64 GB and pay the extra $100. You're much better off not being on contract anyway.

What brand would we switch to?
 
Corruption? You realize 'corruption', like many words, has a specific meaning. What, in your mind, does corruption have to do with Apple producing a 16GB iPhone 6s?

Maybe, "the process by which something, typically a word or expression, is changed from its original use or meaning to one that is regarded as erroneous or debased."

User-experience... best in class... design quality...
 
For sure. It continues to amaze me how people willingly give so much power to a company to the point that that company's business decisions regarding a 100 buck option really does drive them crazy.

Yet rather than switch brands because they're so upset, they continue to buy Apple products and be dominated by that power as if it's an unsurmountable force. Funny as heck to watch. And weird.

You can love a device whilst still hating it for not having sufficient RAM. You can want an iPhone whilst still feeling ripped-off by the base storage level. Sure, eventually there will come a time where too many straws have broken the camel's back but until that time comes (and boy it's close) the ecosystem, $500 spent on Apps and familiarity with the o/s keeps me aboard.
 
The cloud argument is a load of crap.

Well, not the argument.... just the reality of it. Until Apple gets their act together, their cloud option isn't really a good option for photos and video. (And, given Apple's history in cloud and sync tech, I'm not holding my breath on that one.)

And, then there is the whole issue of telcos going backwards in terms of cost for data transmission. I'm not sure if that one is even within Apple's capability to influence much.
 
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You can love a device whilst still hating it for not having sufficient RAM. You can want an iPhone whilst still feeling ripped-off by the base storage level. Sure, eventually there will come a time where too many straws have broken the camel's back but until that time comes (and boy it's close) the ecosystem, $500 spent on Apps and familiarity with the o/s keeps me aboard.

Exactly! Again, I've been an Apple 'power-user' for over 25 years now. Not once in those 25-years did I even consider that I'd have to one-day find something else (not even in the mid-late-90s!). I'm hoping iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 are going to actually address some of this stuff (i.e.: the current problems are a result of all the upper-management turnover at Apple). If not, though, and the current trend continues, I'm guessing I'm going to have to switch to *something* in the next 5 to 10 years. I just have no clue what that might be. (And, that 'no clue' isn't due to ability.... I could fairly easily switch to Windows or Unix, or Android, etc. on a technical level. It's just that the user-experience there is even way worse than Apple on it's worst day.)
 
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I should imagine that it's something to do with a premium 'no holds barred' product being sold in a market where 32GB is the new base level, with 16GB of frankly insufficient storage space. People were growing tired of Apple's incremental updates but the i6 & 6+ pushed people over the edge because what was once seen as stingy (1GB of RAM) was shown in the latest phones to actually be plain insuffient. Who would have imagined insuffient specs on a top of the line device? Now with the 6S rolling up with 16GB of base storage, well it's a joke isn't it. Having to pay extra to get basic 2015 specs on a premium-priced smartphone. Specs ALL the competitors offer inclusively. Come on now, iPhones just aren't good enough anymore to carry these storage upgrade pricing tiers.

Please explain to me what anything you've just written has to do with corruption.
 
Maybe, "the process by which something, typically a word or expression, is changed from its original use or meaning to one that is regarded as erroneous or debased."

User-experience... best in class... design quality...

You still don't explain what a 16GB iPhone has to do with corruption, in any of its meanings.
 
You can love a device whilst still hating it for not having sufficient RAM. You can want an iPhone whilst still feeling ripped-off by the base storage level. Sure, eventually there will come a time where too many straws have broken the camel's back but until that time comes (and boy it's close) the ecosystem, $500 spent on Apps and familiarity with the o/s keeps me aboard.
In a sense, I think that Apple knows all too well what they can and can't afford to get away with.

I don't pretend that Apple products are perfect. I bought the iPad 3 (whose GPU wasn't quite powerful enough to power that retina display). I am now using an iPad mini 2 which has a very speedy processor, but still 1gb of ram. I bought the 2nd gen Apple TV (which would turn out to not support peer-to-peer airplay) and this in turn "made" me get a 3rd gen ATV for my classroom. I have the 2012 64gb MBA, and just swapped the internal SSD to 240 gb when the base 64gb finally proved inadequate. We will never know if the 1gb of ram on the iPhone 6 (especially the 6+) was entirely out of greed or because they simply screwed up and genuinely thought that 1gb would suffice (or maybe a bit of both), but I concede that it was woefully shortsighted and out of line with Apple's trend of doubling the ram every 2 years (i.e. every new iPhone generation).

What I do know is that I still prefer Apple products, for all their flaws and shortcomings, because it still provides me with a refined and integrated computing solution which I just can't find anywhere else. Yes, there are times when Apple's business decisions do frustrate and perturb me, but let's be honest here - what other company isn't without its own share of problems? I make no small secret of the fact that I am quite deeply entrenched in the whole Apple ecosystem, and the competition would need to offer a product that is many times better than what Apple is currently selling for me to even consider switching.

Given the amount of money we have invested in Apple and considering the inconvenience of making a clean break, I can understand the desire for our platform of choice to be the best that it can be. However, I think that Apple is never going to be that perfect model child you want to show off to your friends and relatives. Like it or not, we are simply going to have to accept Apple for what it is, strengths and weaknesses and all.

The world is simply not a perfect or generous place.
 
Please explain to me what anything you've just written has to do with corruption.
The process of decay of everything we have come to associate with the Apple brand. Cutting edge devices, smooth operation and class-leading performance etc.
One could also argue corruption on a moral level by a company consumed by greed...
 
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The process of decay of everything we have come to associate with the Apple brand. Cutting edge devices, smooth operation and class-leading performance etc.
One could also argue corruption on a moral level by a company consumed by greed...

So, your saying Apple is corrupt because they build a product that millions of people purchase?
 
You think your mind or soul are being corrupted because Apple sells a 16GB iPhone?

Lol. Not my mind or soul. I think people are perceiving this pricing strategy at odds with what they think of Apple over the years. A noble company that built insanely great products as a primary goal. They now see Apple as a regular corporation with the primary goal being profit and great products second. A company that has lost its soul.
 
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Well, then, thank you for proving my point. Also, the tax statement is a non sequitur, totally meaningless.
I didn't say they weren't either...

How about looking up the dictionary definition of corruption? Also other words with similar meanings in a thesaurus.
 
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