Oh, yeah, I vaguely remember that. Interesting. I wonder if yet another gate opportunity will arise if Apple gives the iPhone a similar water resistant treatment/construction to that used on their watch.
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'iPhone 6s' Materials Analysis Confirms Stronger, Less Bendable Aluminum Alloy
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SgtPepper12
macrumors 6502a
I really wonder what makes people believe that sitting on your iPhone repeatedly, day after day, is such a normal thing to do. It just seems like the worst place to keep a phone, in every aspect that I can think of.
MacATDBB
macrumors regular
People have talked about alloying allumium with iron to create very strong but somewhat brittle alloys - it's possible that the zinc in aerospace alluminium could reduce this brittleness?
http://www.economist.com/news/scien...-alloy-iron-and-aluminium-good-titanium-tenth
http://www.economist.com/news/scien...-alloy-iron-and-aluminium-good-titanium-tenth
My 6+ bent in my shirt pocket after a few weeks. Took it into the Apple Store and they happily exchanged it for a new one. The Apple Genius indicated that every Genius was seeing about 1 a week since the release of the 6+. Apple was full aware of this after release and did make good on their promise.
macduke
macrumors G5
Oh probably. I've been wearing my watch to the pool this summer and haven't had a single issue. I could see them waterproofing the 7 or 7S since they're getting it down pretty good with the Apple Watch. Although the watch is a lot smaller and has minimal openings. But on a larger device and huge production run like the iPhone, imperfections are more likely. Watergate!
Inductive charging and bluetooth headphones on the 7 (which is probably too thin for headphones anyway) would minimize openings. They could also remove the mute switch like they did on the iPad and only use software controls. Lastly Force Touch and integrated into the LCD/capacitive touch Touch ID could eliminate the home button. The side button on the Watch is similar to the sleep/wake and volume buttons so they could probably work that out. Then you just need to protect the speakers and microphones like they did on the watch and you're good to go. Oh and don't forget the SIM card! Having that integrated one would remove the need for the whole slot. The upside to removing so many ports is that you can fill that space with battery. When you add it all up that's a significant space savings, especially if they once again feel the need to go thinner—which they will.
Even Longer
macrumors 6502
Sadly, it needs to be a scandal/bendgate/something-gate for Apple to react and produce quality again.
These times it's a margin first and product second. I remember the times, where Apple's priorities were exactly the opposite... And it didn't hit their profits either.
These times it's a margin first and product second. I remember the times, where Apple's priorities were exactly the opposite... And it didn't hit their profits either.
So I'm reading that this new metal for this non existent weak bending iPhone 6 metal is three times stronger to ensure the never happened bending iPhone 6 never happen again...........
'They are enhancing the design'......... yeahhhh surreee...
It is daft that instead of making the phone thicker and taking the opportunity to fit a bigger battery Apple decide to just fix the metal instead.
'They are enhancing the design'......... yeahhhh surreee...
It is daft that instead of making the phone thicker and taking the opportunity to fit a bigger battery Apple decide to just fix the metal instead.
You obviously didn't look at his You Tube channel then did you....
Oh yeah he's obviously such a Samsung shill.... perhaps people should research before generalising with the populous and wrong beliefs?
Rogifan
macrumors Penryn
Right because the work they did with Watch couldn't have informed their iPhone design at all. It's totally a coincidence Watch uses 7000 series aluminum and now the iPhone allegedly will too.
Rogifan
macrumors Penryn
Nah he's just after clicks. Bragging on Twitter about being the 4th most viewed video on YouTube last year.
He showed Apple for what they are more like. It was his video being spread all over the media and sites like Mac Rumor that got him the clicks. He had plenty of subscribers already but it was the rest of the media that made his bendgate video famous. Not him.
Four days ago I noticed my 6+ is slightly bent. I think what I'm gonna do is wait until it becomes an issue and then get it replaced... it is hardly noticeable (right now) and doesn't affect performance.
I know about these tests that he did shortly after the iphone 6 plus one. These samsungs werent known to bend or had bending issue
I mean the new samsung, the unibody design, that was tested by another company and bent easier than the iphone. He never did a test on that one, considering there were reports of it bending.
We won't make 32gb standard base model because it's a dollar more than 16gb. But we will use alloy FIVE TIMES more expensive because our phones Don't Bend. ~Apple Riiiiight. You people are still in the RDF
Well knowing Lou I would suspect he's waiting for the new iPhone 6 Plus S, I don't remember him concentrating on the standard iPhone 6? Not sure actually if you would want to try the new Samsung phones with their glass backs, I guess he could do it in that machine though, not with bare hands. The new Note 5 seems to be pretty solid, but the internals are not as strong as the 6 plus and phone stops working earlier in drop tests.
Will be interesting to see how the new metal copes with corrosion, I would imaging it should be fine if anodised properly?
Even Longer
macrumors 6502
Yeah... Neither 6000 series of Al (used in nearly everything, but the Watch), nor the 7000 (used non-exclusively in Watch) was invented or introduced by Apple. 7000 has always been more durable and ergo - expensive. So, the Know-How about the alloying was there long before the Watch.
The whole f... thing was just about cost savings and maximising profits as long as everything went fine and no another ...Gate-thing happened.
I never stuck an iPhone into my back pocket until I got the oversized 6Plus. When I have it on me when I'm gardening and landscaping I've got no choice but to put it in a back pocket or I can't squat down to pick things up or adjust a planting. Sometimes I've sat on my iPhone but it's in a very rigid wallet case so it's butt-proof. I agree it's a stupid thing to do but I've made concessions to carry around that massive phablet that I normally never had to before. I'm at this point in time planning on trading in my still unbent 6Plus for a smaller 6s. I'd go even smaller if Apple were to offer a new IPhone 5s sized phone with 6s specs.
Roght. That turd with a camera went back in time and initiated the AL 7000 program 2-3 years ago (materials research, manufacturing R&D and then capital investment of tens of millions) ... Hmmm. Makes sense...
Lets devellop your little fantasy scenario linked to this time traveling clown's temporal excursion....
"On a whim under pressure of Hulkie boy, clown prince of youtube (it is an honorific title), and despite having sold 140M of those "flawed" phones and risking a class action law suite if he was right... Apple decided to use all that Apple Watch investment on a new material and risk their biggest money maker on it, eschewing normal development processes and caution by laying out both further manufacturing R&D and tens of millions in tooling for the new Iphones within 6 months."
Anyone who knows anything about product development would laugh themselves silly just about now... The whole thing reeks of a "Modern Time" gag reel.
BTW, the 5/5s also bended with "normal use" (normal of course is entirely left to the discretion of the complainant), that just shoots your "A means B" argument right out of the water hey, since the 6 wasn't made tougher. Likely engineered according to the same use case scenarios.
But, hey, you trust a hulkie boy more than Apple, so there's no hope really in discussing this.
AnthonyHarris
Cancelled
When I saw his face I thought, "Is this D*CK seriously STILL milking this?!".
Rogifan
macrumors Penryn
I never said anything about invention. None of us work at Apple. We don't know squat about any of this. So my theory about Watch manufacturing/technology bleeding over to iPhone is just as valid as someone else suggesting this is a result of the so-called "bendgate". The Watch got force touch before the iPhone did. It also has an OLED screen which the iPhone still doesn't have. Is that also only about "maximizing profits"?
Elvergun
macrumors 6502
I hit my thumb with a hammer...had to go to the emergency room, and I actually had to pay to have it patched up, even with health insurance. Who do I blame...who do I blame? It is definitely not my fault. Should I blame the hammer manufacturer, the hospital, or my insurance? I'll get back to you when I make up my mind. Too bad I did not smash my finger with an iPhone -- I could then blame blame Apple like you did.
QuarterSwede
macrumors G4
Much better than it shutting down when it's been in the sun for literally 2 minutes in my car. Yeah.
I've had two bent iPhone 6 phones. Not a lot of bendage, just a degree or two, noticeable only when I look down the phone like aiming with a rifle and when layed down flat on a table, display down. Both times I went to the Apple Store in Malmoe, Sweden to have them replaced. Both times Apple tagged the order with a predefined "Böjd telefon" ("Bent iPhone") in their customer assistant iPhone gadgets thingies.
The first time Apple was quite friendly and replaced it without hesitation. Second time the tone was different and I had to pursued them to use my Apple Care+ to replace it (they insisted I pay full price for replacement due to self-inflicted damaged - I did not agree and won that argument).
I used both iPhones 6 above exactly they way I have used my iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 5. I have had them in my back pocket most of the time, taking them out of the back pocket when sitting down 90 percent of the time. Apple argued the back pocket was not a good place to carry an iPhone. I disagreed.
In any case, I now carry my iPhone 6 in my front pocket. That seems to do the trick. I will add that I'm quite sensitive to esthetics and even half a degree of bendage seems like a bad design to me. This milage may vary. But perhaps I would recommend sensitive persons who have carried their iPhone 6:s in their back pockets to not look down on them like aiming a rifle or laying them flat on a table, display down. You may be disappointed.
The first time Apple was quite friendly and replaced it without hesitation. Second time the tone was different and I had to pursued them to use my Apple Care+ to replace it (they insisted I pay full price for replacement due to self-inflicted damaged - I did not agree and won that argument).
I used both iPhones 6 above exactly they way I have used my iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 5. I have had them in my back pocket most of the time, taking them out of the back pocket when sitting down 90 percent of the time. Apple argued the back pocket was not a good place to carry an iPhone. I disagreed.
In any case, I now carry my iPhone 6 in my front pocket. That seems to do the trick. I will add that I'm quite sensitive to esthetics and even half a degree of bendage seems like a bad design to me. This milage may vary. But perhaps I would recommend sensitive persons who have carried their iPhone 6:s in their back pockets to not look down on them like aiming a rifle or laying them flat on a table, display down. You may be disappointed.
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