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So when Apple says that the iPhone 6s will have the same battery life as the 6, presumably they mean the iPhone 6 running iOS8 and the 6s on iOS9. And I would assume that iOS9 is a more efficient OS than 8. So comparing apples to apples, the new phones will have worse battery life.
exactomundo!! just wait for all the battery life threads popping up next week
 
So the current 6 and 6 Plus gained battery life with this iOS 9 update...and the 6s and 6s Plus have the same battery life as "last year."

So maybe Apple isn't lying but we're still losing battery life?
 
With the amount of money you're spending the consumer deserves to know.

What you stated is like saying that I don't need to know how many cylinders or what the displacement of my engine is. All I need to know is that I should get 17 city / 23 hwy.

No, I'm saying that specs like number of cylinders and engine displacement ultimately are tiny variables in an enormous complex system. People who don't really understand the numbers think that big numbers are all it's about, and they get misled by them.

They don't really tell you anything about how the car will perform. The Nissan GT-R has a 3.8L V6, but it'll trounce plenty of cars with much bigger engines and more cylinders. Good engineering is about more than stuffing lots of big numbers on to a single sheet of paper, and good products are the result of good engineering.

How will the iPhone 6S' battery life be? I don't know; Probably excellent given Apple's history of very good engineering. The battery's initial rated capacity? Means comparatively little.
 
With the amount of money you're spending the consumer deserves to know.

What you stated is like saying that I don't need to know how many cylinders or what the displacement of my engine is. All I need to know is that I should get 17 city / 23 hwy.

To be honest, most consumers really don't know or care about the cylinders or displacement on their car and the MPG number is more important to them. It's something for them to compare when the numbers are there, but if they're not they could care less. The subset of consumers that actually care about those specs on their phone is really small. The general public just wants their phones to work. And they know the new version will be better/faster than the old one, and that's good enough for them.

The general population either wants an iPhone or they don't. That's probably one of the reasons why Apple doesn't release those specs. Very very few people would be like "I wanted the iPhone 6S, but it only has 2gb of ram when the Galaxy S6 has 3gb, so I'm going to get the Samsung instead."

Android phones need specs because there are several flagship phones at the same pricepoint, so they need something to differentiate and compare them to the other ones.
 
I wonder if people would be more inclined to spend an extra $100 for battery improvements instead of storage bumps?

For example, the base model iPhone could come with 32/64GB but the standard battery. For $100 more, you get 64GB but a battery that lasts twice as long. Not sure how that would work out but it's an idea.

It is an idea, but it's not a good one

NAND chips are tiny, it would make no difference and add considerable cost and complexity to manufacturing
 
I would pay extra for a thicker phone and bigger battery.

Me too. This obsession over thinness has gotten way out of hand long ago, and if there's one single thing I just hate about my iPhone 6 it's the lousy battery life. I can't recall the last time I would've made it through the day without recharging in the afternoon.
 
I'd rather Apple keep doing what they are doing. If that means a smaller battery, I trust they know what they are doing. The current battery is fine as-is, and I heard the same complaints for the 6. Complainers will always complain.
 
The current battery is fine as-is, and I heard the same complaints for the 6. Complainers will always complain.

That's because the 6 also has a poor battery life in the standard model. It wasn't always like this, I remember back in the days I was using 3GS and 4 how the iPhone battery life was superior to that of Androids and there were no issues with making it through the day. I have an iPhone 6 and I can't recall the last time I would've made it through the day on one charge.
 
exactomundo!! just wait for all the battery life threads popping up next week

Or maybe IOS 9 is more efficient on 6s than 6 and your logic doesn't hold up at all, so how about that hey...

While there may be a slight battery improvement from IOS 9, most of the improvements are usually hardware related (CPU/GPU uses less power because it is on new process, COMM uses less power, even memory possibly uses less power). It's even possible, like the original Air, that it could give more battery life than they said it would in most use cases...

Battery life vs functionality is always a tradeoff; a tradeoff most people are ready to make.
 
I will never understand battery technology. Instead of having better batteries with higher capacities and longer life, we can't batteries with a smaller capacity and the same life.

The batteries the same tech and smaller while the system uses much less power for existing functions, and new functions are added to use up any extra power left in the budget to reach the promised battery life.
 
That's because the 6 also has a poor battery life in the standard model. It wasn't always like this, I remember back in the days I was using 3GS and 4 how the iPhone battery life was superior to that of Androids and there were no issues with making it through the day. I have an iPhone 6 and I can't recall the last time I would've made it through the day on one charge.

Or maybe you use way way way more. If you look at actual battery life tests; the Iphone 6 has a lot more battery life than earlier phones. It is not even close. So, your memory is not as reliable as you think it is.
 
It wouldn't be a problem if that joke for a battery made it through at least one day on one charge.

It does for most people I know and the Iphone 6 is usually near the top in battery life (but not at the top because it is much smaller). The Iphone 6+ though is beat by few.
 
Or maybe IOS 9 is more efficient on 6s than 6 and your logic doesn't hold up at all, so how about that hey...

While there may be a slight battery improvement from IOS 9, most of the improvements are usually hardware related (CPU/GPU uses less power because it is on new process, COMM uses less power, even memory possibly uses less power). It's even possible, like the original Air, that it could give more battery life than they said it would in most use cases...

Battery life vs functionality is always a tradeoff; a tradeoff most people are ready to make.
any cpu efficiency will be destroyed by the smaller battery size. it will be the same or worse. but there is almost no chance its better. I agree that keeping battery the same or with a slight decrease is an increase since you are adding functionality
 
I'd like to know if the "smaller battery, same time" is true or just a marketing gimmick....
Battery life on 6 and 6+ was good.
 
Though the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus have smaller batteries, overall battery life has not been impacted due to optimizations in the A9 processor in the devices and software improvements. Both devices continue to offer the same battery life..
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So Apple's marketing says. That has yet to be experimentally confirmed.
 
Or maybe you use way way way more. If you look at actual battery life tests; the Iphone 6 has a lot more battery life than earlier phones. It is not even close. So, your memory is not as reliable as you think it is.

Of course I use it way more nowadays. The OS has received more capabilities and Apple itself has introduced additional connected devices. If it truly is the world's most advanced smartphone, I wish Apple would give it a battery that allows its potential to be fully used.
 
They have the best battery life in their laptops and practically the worst in their phones.

Not even close:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/3

Seems like a combination of forum whiners and Android marketing has worked on you.

When you decrease battery capacity so you can shave off an extra atom from the thinness, yet leave a protruding camera that additional thickness would actually solve — well, that's form over function. And not even good form at that.

You make design and engineering sound easy. Just be glad you don't have a phone from the competition:

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Also the 6s is thicker than the 6, they didn't shave anything. It's rumoured the Taptic Engine and the screen for 3D Touch take up extra room, hence the smaller battery.

Apple is a company whose number 1 aim is to stay alive by making money - if thicker, heavier phones with longer batteries would make them more money why wouldn't they do it? The needs of a MacRumors regular and the mass market that Apple targets probably have different priorities. For example Motorola built a well reviewed handset with a monster battery and thicker chassis - the Maxx. It wasn't exactly lapped up by the public. Apple has a plethora of battery data, and they probably judge what is good enough for the majority of users. That won't be perfect for everyone, but I imagine they target a large percentage.

Personally I hope the iPhone 7 has a flush camera, and a slim frame. But if push comes to shove I'd take the same compromise Apple decided upon with the 6/6s and the protruding camera as it doesn't affect the usage of the phone for me, YMMV.
 
The most advanced and powerful iPhone ever made with battery life on par with last year's devices? That sounds like a good compromise to me.
Well, that compromise mostly relys on apples statement that battery life is the same for the new phone...which may, depending on ones usage scenario, or may not be the case...we will have to wait and see how this turns out in reality.

In my specific case I spend a lot of my workday in areas with bad reception and thus usualy need to recharge sometime in the afternoon. I am pretty sure that the more efficient processor will not have much impact in mmy scenario...so unless the new radio is also considerably more efficient, I will most likely experience shorter battery life which (again in my specific usage scenario) may even lead to the need of a second recharge before getting home...of course that would be the point of conseidering a) a battery case or b) a system change (more likely b) as those battery cases more then nullify the size and weight advantage the iphone may have over competition)
 
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