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iPhone 6s Plus Has Smaller 2750mAh Battery

I just want A SMALL PHONE!!!! A phone should be useable with one hand only. I regret "upgrading" to the 6....
I've been an Apple-only person since my PB140 (thats 25 years ago....) but now Im tempted to go to android to get something like the size of the 5s that I loved.
 
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I'd rather Apple keep doing what they are doing. If that means a smaller battery, I trust they know what they are doing. The current battery is fine as-is, and I heard the same complaints for the 6. Complainers will always complain.
 
JohnApples said:
I wonder if people would be more inclined to spend an extra $100 for battery improvements instead of storage bumps?

For example, the base model iPhone could come with 32/64GB but the standard battery. For $100 more, you get 64GB but a battery that lasts twice as long. Not sure how that would work out but it's an idea.
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Oh heck no.
 
springsup said:
This is why Apple don't publish specs.

The rated capacity of the battery is a minor technical detail. The things that matter are all higher-order problems such as how much life you can get out of it and how much of that life it keeps with wear-and-tear.

It's the same deal with all of the other specs. You don't really care how many cores the CPU has or how much RAM is in there, you care that it's always responsive and that you don't need to wait for things to load.

You're all talking about this battery with none of the really important technical insight whatsoever. Maybe these batteries have a smaller initial capacity, but retain more of it after 12 months than the previous components. Maybe they've got better controller chips in the hardware so you still get more life. I don't know. You don't know. Don't worry about it.

Don't waste time sweating about things you don't really understand in enough depth to pass judgement on. I'm an electronic engineer who works in nanotechnology, and even I don't know enough to make any kind of judgement about this design decision.

Everybody's also forgotten about component cost. The new iPhones contain plenty of components which weren't in the last iPhone in any form (e.g. 3D touch, haptic engine). That's additional cost that has to be made up somewhere - either from Apple's margins (which could still be the case) or by using cheaper components elsewhere. If they tested these batteries and found they got the same lifetime as the previous generation while using a cheaper component, most engineers would consider that a pretty good solution.
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With the amount of money you're spending the consumer deserves to know.

What you stated is like saying that I don't need to know how many cylinders or what the displacement of my engine is. All I need to know is that I should get 17 city / 23 hwy.
 
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nooaah said:
As long as I get the same battery life.
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As long as you get the same battery life? you kidding me? Apple needs to be improving things like battery life, not the reverse. Hard to view a smaller battery in the same "form/size" as a great development. Nothing from this model change shows anything to change the fact that iphones guzzle batteries and apple is doing very little to change that.
 
i would just stop telling people what the actual size the battery is, that way we don't have to hear people complain about how much more battery life they "Could" be getting if it was just "A little Thicker".
 
Crossmax said:
So when Apple says that the iPhone 6s will have the same battery life as the 6, presumably they mean the iPhone 6 running iOS8 and the 6s on iOS9. And I would assume that iOS9 is a more efficient OS than 8. So comparing apples to apples, the new phones will have worse battery life.
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Agreed! I made the same comment last week. Apple should update their specs for iPhone 6 since they are still selling it. Most new iPhone 6 will come with iOS 9 pre installed and if their claim of an extra hour is true, product specs need to be updated.

On a separate note the smaller battery size is compensated by more efficient chips. This is similar to how Intel improves lap atop battery life with each chip iteration.
 
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"Though the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus have smaller batteries, overall battery life has not been impacted due to optimizations in the A9 processor in the devices and software improvements. Both devices continue to offer the same battery life as the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 Plus".


I updated to ios 9 on Friday. Now Apple claimed that the greater efficiency of iOS 9 will more than make up for the smaller battery, as much as one hour more on older devices. Um, did I read that correctly. Maybe it said one hour less of battery life because since upgrading to iOS 9 for the past three days my battery has gone dead before the end of the day. It never happened before upgrading to iOS 9. It makes me worried when I get my new iPhone 6s Plus that has a smaller battery.

Apple better revolutionize the battery for iPhone 7. This is really what they should pour their resources in doing during the next year AND GET RID OF THAT DAMN 16 GB option. Yes, I'm yelling at that idiotic marketing/accounting decision.
 
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mdntcallr said:
As long as you get the same battery life? you kidding me? Apple needs to be improving things like battery life, not the reverse. Hard to view a smaller battery in the same "form/size" as a great development. Nothing from this model change shows anything to change the fact that iphones guzzle batteries and apple is doing very little to change that.
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I don't expect and never expect the battery to improve in an S model. What would be disappointing is if it went backwards. I can't recall any S model that dramatically or meaningfully improved battery life.
 
Usually during the keynote they emphasize either the same or better battery life. This time the battery got 0 seconds at the keynotes. They skipped it for a reason. It's going to be the same or slightly worse. Not enough to be a huge deal but they could hardly tout they achieved all that new tech without sacrifices.
 
SlipperySlop said:
That's easy for you to say. What is your knowledge of the current status of the battery industry and research and development as it applies to the iPhone today? You people love to moan and groan and to demand the world without any clue as to it's feasibility. Have you ever heard of making compromises? Apple decided to make other improvements rather than increase battery capacity. In another thread I did the math and showed that the small increase in battery capacity that would make you happy would probably only give you a few extra minutes over the coarse of the day. You people really need to think before you make your knee jerk responses that almost inevitably end up being absurd and way overblown. Many of you just seem to like to embarrass yourselves with your statement rather than to step back for a moment and be logical and practical. Sheesh.
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He has every right to feel and express his opinion that phone battery needs to advance. Quite frankly he is right. I can't go a single day without having to plug in my phone and recharge it. I have to walk around with. Cord in my pocket because of it. It would be nice if I could go a full day using my phone without having to worry about running out if juice and having to recharge it. Battery life has basically remained the same for years. It would be nice if they would start working in advancing battery technology. They can fly a man to the mom but can't make a cell phone battery last a couple days of continuous use. You might not agree with him or a lot of others but they have just as much right to express their opinions as you do. Sheesh.
 
keysofanxiety said:
When Apple's official pictures of the phone (in this case, the 6) remove the protruding camera, that to me rings alarm bells. It implies that the design really was contrary to Apple's standards and mentality, just because Butterblimp Jony gets a raging clue from an extra particle of thinness.

The only protruding thing from Jony Ive should be his belly.

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No need to be so angry about it. I think the name calling is unnecessary.

As much as I dislike the camera ring and I agree it goes against Steve Jobs' Apple design lines, the phone itself is a pretty gorgeous piece of tech (also minus those awful antenna lines, which they could easily have painted/dyed the same color as the aluminum) and there was probably a logistic reason to keep the bulge. Possibly the new 14mp camera takes up more physical space? If they could have kept the 8mp camera and made it flush against the back would you have preferred that?
 
JohnStrass said:
I just want A SMALL PHONE!!!! A phone should be useable with one hand only. I regret "upgrading" to the 6....
I've been an Apple-only person since my PB140 (thats 25 years ago....) but now Im tempted to go to android to get something like the size of the 5s that I loved.
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I have a buddy that said the same thing... he is on the iPhone 5 and he spent this last weekend looking for a 64gb 5S on Verizon so that he could keep the smaller footprint of the phone.
 
I'd like to see the tests too, as my 6+ on iOS9 seems to be draining battery a lot faster than on the prior version of iOS.

I still would prefer a heavier phone with longer battery life
 
JohnStrass said:
I just want A SMALL PHONE!!!! A phone should be useable with one hand only. I regret "upgrading" to the 6....
I've been an Apple-only person since my PB140 (thats 25 years ago....) but now Im tempted to go to android to get something like the size of the 5s that I loved.
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I feel the same way. I have had every iPhone up untill the 5S. Id never thought I would skip a generation, much less two, but I hate both the size and design of the 6(s), so I will pass on this. The smaller battery solidifies that decission.
 
JohnStrass said:
I just want A SMALL PHONE!!!! A phone should be useable with one hand only. I regret "upgrading" to the 6....
I've been an Apple-only person since my PB140 (thats 25 years ago....) but now Im tempted to go to android to get something like the size of the 5s that I loved.
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I use my iPhone 6 with one hand all of the time. Do you have Davos Seaworth fingers?
 
I really don't understand this. Everybody I know complains about poor battery life. If you use it frequently throughout the day it does not last until the evening. Why do you think those mobile batteries and battery cases are so popular??

Apple is settling for a sub-optimal experiencing and is not willing to address this if it will impact thinness.
 
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SpinThis! said:
Not completely different, subtly different. You do know variability between manufacturers plays a role too, right?
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that is really just marginal I mean like 1-3% if even that. You would get that variability based on just quality of output. li ion is what it is there is no way around it. I mean apple did say they improved the battery chemisty for one of the MB pros i remember but most people said it was barely any different.
 
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