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The 16GB. An immortal flash memory. Since 2009. 

Still rocking that beast too ;)

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4K video and live photos on a 16 GB iPhone, that's some great innovation there Apple !..... i'm gonna wait for iPhone 7 where Apple magically upgrade the base model to 32 GB.

They are not going to do that, because they want people to upgrade to 32GB. Their justification would be something like, "The 16GB is for light users who are unlikely to store many photos or apps on their phones." Anyone else, Apple wants you upgrading to the larger size. For all intents and purposes, the price of a *decent* iPhone is $100 more than the base price. Apple is well aware of that.
 
Based on this post from yesterday, the 6s doesn't look like a huge improvement.

Oh it will be improved but you're gonna have to wait until iPhone 7 for that. How do you think apple makes so much money it's definitely not by giving you everything in one package. But instead gimp some stuff here and there and offer the very thing that should've been there in the first place in the following years.

If apple touted their camera at 8MP is worlds best in class and there's just no need to cram more pixels in a tiny sensor (based on their past keynotes) then why up it to 12MP? These guys are world class salesmen. It's a business after all and you won't buy another iPhone if it had everything you wanted right now.

You wait and watch when the iPhone 7 comes out they will probably keep the same 1080p screen. Same 16GB size. It's not until maybe the iPhone 7S or even iPhone 8 they will update the screen resolution and give you 32GB as base size (which I highly doubt since 16GB base makes them a huge margin in profits.)

The most pathetic thing is even with such a great camera, you are not allowed control ISO, shutter speeds, and even image size. You just don't have options with an iPhone :(
 
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Prediction:

There are major camera improvements coming to the iPhone 7, and getting the pixel count up to 12M in the 6s was basically a stepping stone move. Perhaps the entire camera configuration will change, from the lenses all the way down to the size of the sensor itself -- a larger sensor would give us back those larger pixels Apple kept telling us were so important, while a larger lens with a larger aperture would let more light in on those precious pixels for better performance in low light and shallower depth of field when shooting 4K video.

Next year is a banner year for iPhone. Apple's 10th iPhone, running iOS 10 with an A10 chip. They've already made the physical devices bigger. Now they're going to make the features inside the phone bigger than ever before. Bigger camera. And who knows... maybe even a bigger battery?

Ok that last one might be pushing it. But I'm sticking to my guns on the camera. The next iPhone camera is going to be huge, inside and out.
 
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Forget about it. Trying to compare your cellphone camera to a Nikon DSLR will always end in disappointment with the cellphone. The image sensor on phones is smaller and of course, well, the lenses. For anything super important stick with your DSLR. Speaking of DSLR cameras I have my eye on Sony's new A7RII/A7SII mirrorless cameras. They are both DSLR killers. :)
I looked at mirror less cameras, but the reviews suggested that the auto focus especially in low light was still not there. Otherwise, getting a mirror less means smaller body and cheaper price. What's not to like. Enjoy you camera.
 
DLSR-like is probably coming in the next few years. Apple bought that company that has that technology where there are two cameras and it creates the effect of having a DLSR. It's still not DSLR, but fine for most people that they won't tell the difference (except they are carrying a phone and not something that won't fit in their pocket.
If it's anything like what they did with HDR, it will be nice, but not quite there. Still, I do believe that Apple is eliminating the need for point and shoot cameras. Mirror less are starting to eat at the heals of DSLR. So a convergence at some point could happen, but I see that still taking a little while, especially with the 16 gig phone :D
 
I bought a Nikon DSLR over the summer because I wanted depth that I cannot get out of my iphone. I will wait to see how the new 6s compares, but I assume that the depth issue cannot be addressed by Apple. Otherwise, I may have just bought a camera I don't need. :p

The depth is giving be the lense, the iPhone will not give you more than your Nikon. I just got a Nikon D3300 and after some tweaking the images are amazing.
 
4K video and live photos on a 16 GB iPhone, that's some great innovation there Apple !..... i'm gonna wait for iPhone 7 where Apple magically upgrade the base model to 32 GB.

They are planning to change the base model to 4GB and devote the device entirely to cloud storage. But with LTE-A that should be a non-issue :D Seriously though, I agree. 4K Video on a 16gb is not ideal. Even with cloud storage uploading those files on your cellular network would easily eat up your monthly allotment.
 
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Still never gonna touch those mirrorless full frame cameras...
I find my SLR more true-er-er than my iDevices.
Seriously... trouble with forum posts, I can't tell if people are joking or actually comparing a tiny phone camera to a $3000 fullframe camera with fullsized $1000 zoom lenses. The latter at least seems to be made in jest.

I found the DxO One intriguing for surreptitious street photography, not just for its larger 1" sensor (same as the Sony RX100) or RAW support, but the fact you in essence get a tilt screen and a grip; a seemingly small thing, but huge in practical use. Good for anything not exactly eye hight, be it high, or somewhat discreet hip-height street photos. But the price is a bit much, especially when you see the advances the built-in camera in this phone has.
All I can ask for, PLEASE, is Raw support. Just use dng. Just make it an option like 4k video is; most people won't need it, but for those who do, it can make a big difference. It's something they can add at any time in iOS and make backwardly compatible.
 
You do realize they offer cloud storage right? That's why Apple can get away with the 16GB entry level iPhone every year. Not saying they shouldn't increase it but I'm just addressing your issue with the 16GB storage. Cloud storage is Apple's answer to it.
That's not how iCloud storage works.

iCloud Photo Library keeps every photo you have synced across all your devices -- iPhone, iPad, iMac, MacBook, etc. If you add a photo to one device, it gets added to all of them. If you remove a photo from one device, it gets removed from all of them, including iCloud itself.

You can tell iOS devices with iCloud Photo Library to keep "optimized" versions of your photos on there, which basically means it only stores thumbnails to save space and will download the full resolution photo from iCloud in real time if you tap the image to view/edit/share it. Which can help with the burden of storage a little, but if you have a large overall photo library then it can result in even less space by the time your 20,000 photos from your iMac make their way onto your iPhone, even as optimized files.

iCloud drive works in a similar way. For a file to live in your iCloud drive, it has to first live on your Mac, physically on the hard drive. The iCloud drive folder on your Mac is what iCloud uses to determine what files it will duplicate into your iCloud storage space, which really only exists to give you access to those files when you are elsewhere or on another one of your devices. If you delete a file from your Mac's iCloud folder, it deletes it both from your Mac and from your iCloud storage.

iCloud is not an archival storage solution. It's not a way to save space by getting files into the cloud and off your devices. If anything, with multiple devices it means more of your personal physical space will be used if you implement iCloud.

It's great for having access to everything on all your devices, but in terms of solving physical storage limitations, iCloud is not the right tool for the job.
 
Still can't get over the fact that they wait 4 years to increase the megapixels on both front and rear + add 4k video recording and then still offer 16GB.

It's because not everybody will shoot 4K video or make a huge amount of photos, and thus 16GB is a good option. For those that do make 4K videos and take a lot of photos, there are options for more memory, as well. It's great having choices because everybody does not have the same needs.

Still puzzled why some people don't get this.
 
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They're not very good when you look at the full sized images, so much noise :\

Apple need to put a big camera bump on there like the Nokia 1020 and stick a large sensor in there, not the tiny 1/3 which every phone now has a bigger sensor than that. Sony have a 1/2.2 in the Z5, proves what you can do when your phone is a tad bit thicker.
 
If Apple really care about photos, they should have more built-in support for EXIF in OS X. I can't even sort photos by the day the photos are taken in the Finder.
 
For me. Awaiting my 6s Plus. .. I was going to buy a Panasonic G7 camera. But now that iPhone 6s plus has good still imagery and video. I will hold off till the Gh5 comes out. Cant wait for either one.
 
All these reviews coming out make waiting for Monday even more difficult especially knowing most are getting it on Friday! Damn you IDMOBILE!
 
I bought a Nikon DSLR over the summer because I wanted depth that I cannot get out of my iphone. I will wait to see how the new 6s compares, but I assume that the depth issue cannot be addressed by Apple. Otherwise, I may have just bought a camera I don't need. :p

I am putting myself in the same boat next year. Currently I have a 5s, but I am going to get a Sony a6000 for the same reasons you mentioned. I am looking for quality that can only be provided with a camera that has a larger sensor. I want to buy the a6000 to function as an extension of my eye, as someone once said of a Leica.
 
I'm sick of the argument that it's "just a phone," as justification for it to have a "terrible" camera with 2 hr battery life, and audio. If that's the case then it's a $1,000 (not counting the $100 month bill) LOUSY PHONE that rarely ever works when I actually do want to make a call with the damn thing.
 
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I find the pictures that I get with my iPhone 6 are better than when I didn't bother to bring my SLR. :)
You should take it out with you more. After about the 3rd or 4th picture I took where I wished I had my SLR on me, I decided to carry it around me at all times. Or at least keep it in the car.
 
If people are buying the iPhone purely for it's camera quality then they are buying it for the wrong reasons. That goes for Samsung's phones or any other company's Smartphones. It shouldn't' be about who's winning or losing in the camera department, the overall need for everything the iPhone can do for the consumer should be the main concern when buying it.

Interesting, as I am at a point in my life where photo quality is the most important feature in a smartphone.
 
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I am putting myself in the same boat next year. Currently I have a 5s, but I am going to get a Sony a6000 for the same reasons you mentioned. I am looking for quality that can only be provided with a camera that has a larger sensor. I want to buy the a6000 to function as an extension of my eye, as someone once said of a Leica.

Don't buy a Sony NEX. A friend gave me a new NEX 5T earlier in the year and I had finally decided to give it a go, I bought a new expensive lens, mic and extra batteries. The camera automatically shuts off and overheats after 10 minutes of video recording and once it gets into that "mode," the camera won't work for the rest of the day.

I'm glad I had decided to bring my Nikon gear with me on that particular trip. If it wasn't for my iPhone, I would have lost an entire day. iPhone is never my primary, it almost always my backup, but there are also times (most of the time, it's the whole point of a vacation) when I don't want to lug around a big DSLR kit. Will never purchase another Sony product
 
I bought a Nikon DSLR over the summer because I wanted depth that I cannot get out of my iphone. I will wait to see how the new 6s compares, but I assume that the depth issue cannot be addressed by Apple. Otherwise, I may have just bought a camera I don't need. :p

No fully automatic camera can give you control over DOF, that's the nature of the beast. For that sort of control you need a Canon or if you must, a Nikon DSLR, until Apple come out with Aperture and Shutter priority modes that is ...
 
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