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battery life is the important feature of the smartphone; and 16GB storage, both called out by theverge.

I have iPhones since the first iPhone, battery life is one feature that stands out. All I am asking more R&D on battery life to extend it. We use/do more stuff on the smartphones than four years back.

There has been billions in R&D already spent (and dozens of potential new ways of creating batteries),
but no magic batteries. If there were, they'd use it.

Battery life is a good as before for the same tasks.
If your using your phone more, it won't last as long as before; no magic.

The Verge's comment is a total non sequitur; pointless.
 
Absolutely! I could give two whits about scores. For me it's about responsiveness and letting me do things I need to do. Even if it had a geek bench score of 150,000 I would not care. Are there people here who are actually trying to find the next prime number with their phone?

Well, the screen has the same resolution, thus won't suck up the GPU or battery, the new OS is more efficient (and 9.1 is even better...) and the CPU is a 2 core screaming bomb of performance, that tells you it's unlikely to be "laggy".

The GPU being a bit slower than needed be (considering the down sampling) was the main issue last year (but ironically, other competitor's phone are worse even when they don't have to downsample). But, that won't be a problem here, not at all.

So, increased specs when driving less spec sucking hw means that in this case, spec may actually reflect something real ;-).
 
Performance beast ... maybe within the confines of the walled garden, fast as only against other iPhones. The rather distinctly old tech mechanical home button is like a governor on an industrial engine. It limits how fast you can go, no matter who you are, or how fast the cpu/et al is. You still have to wait for the button which can only travel up and down so fast.

For a truly fast experience just buy yourself one of the leading Android Flagship phones, with just one exception. Copy Cat Samsung chose an Apple like mechanical home button, therefore they're just as slow as iPhones.

Despite all of Apples bragging and hype, one can only surmise they cling to the old school button because at a glance its one way to quickly identify the smartphone someone else is holding as an Apple. The average Apple customer is clueless and buys the brand no matter how it's configured.
 
So some speed and camera improvements to a phone that was already very fast with a great camera. Ok.

Not that anyone minds more speed or better images, but I've never once felt my iPhone 6 didn't measure up in those areas. I'll wait for next year.

So you're going to get an even faster phone with a camera improved yet again, where neither improvement is really meaningful anymore?

I'll just hang on to my 6.
 
Every year the tech sites frame their review around whether or not you'd want to upgrade from last year's model. And every year the majority of people upgrade from a model that is two or more years old. And it's not like these sites don't know the difference. So then why do they always frame their reviews around a question so few people are asking?

I upgrade every year, and it's not because anyone told me I should (or shouldn't). I do it because I can and I want to. I really don't understand people who can't make a decision on their own...

I just read the reviews for fun. :)
 
I upgrade every year, and it's not because anyone told me I should (or shouldn't). I do it because I can and I want to. I really don't understand people who can't make a decision on their own...

I just read the reviews for fun. :)
Not really sure what you mean by any of this. No one is saying there's anything right or wrong about upgrading after a year or when the right time should be. It's just that if the data shows that most people upgrade every two years, why do the reviews all frame the value of the phone around whether or not it's worth upgrading after one year?

Congrats on your recent upgrade, by the way. It looks like a great phone regardless of what phone you're upgrading from :)
 
Not really sure what you mean by any of this. No one is saying there's anything right or wrong about upgrading after a year or when the right time should be. It's just that if the data shows that most people upgrade every two years, why do the reviews all frame the value of the phone around whether or not it's worth upgrading after one year?

Congrats on your recent upgrade, by the way. It looks like a great phone regardless of what phone you're upgrading from :)

Oh, I wasn't knocking your comment. Just thinking out loud (typing out loud?) about the agonizing people do about whether or not to upgrade.

I'm in the 10/16 to 10/23 delivery window. Agony!
 
Jony Ive is overrated, he has laurels to rest on because of a few things he had a hand in, (you surely don’t think that everything that came out of Apple is solely due to Apple)? The thick antenna bands on the iPhone are a fail as is the sticky outy camera. It may be necessary but it is a fail nonetheless.
I’m pretty sure most people either;
  • Ignore the bands and cameras.
  • Ignore the bands and cameras and get a case.
  • There are very few that actually like them.
It’s an awful if necessary aesthetic solution. Deal with it. Apple have done the form over function thing countless times before, I truly wish this was one of those times.

Well, there you go, different strokes for different folks!
I got the first iPhone in 2007 the 3s and the 4s and the 6 and have always gotten a case and never
had a cracked screen or chipped phone, so i think a case is a good idea, as no matter how careful you are they fall on the ground or onto the floor..so as you say, I don't care about the bands or the
lens.
I can upgrade to the 6s+ for almost no extra per month so I might as well!
 
It'll be awesome to see how fans on this forum react to Nilay Patel's positive review. Because they called him a hack and all kinds of other names when he didn't love the Apple Watch they way they wanted him too. Is he still a hack?

The Verge review for iPhone is done by Mossberg, not Nilay. Just saying. I tried not to say anything negative in the forums as best as I could, otherwise ^%&*%$ Nilay!
 
There are no "reviews" here. They are just some stories and opinions. The real review would provide us only Anandtech. I'm waiting for it.
 
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There are no "reviews" here. They are just some stories and opinions. The real review would provide us only Anandtech. I'm waiting for it.
I just gave you a like but now that anand works for apple i dont how to view his reviews. I know he is detached now but all his past reviews could have been biased.
 
Jony Ive is overrated, he has laurels to rest on because of a few things he had a hand in, (you surely don’t think that everything that came out of Apple is solely due to Apple)?

Actually he has been the defining design person at Apple since the late 90s. From 1997 he was the person that signed off on all major design decisions within the company. That means he was responsible for the first MacBook, iPod, first iMac, Newton, MacBook Air, iPad, iPhone, Cube etc etc. Not all of them might have been resounding successes, but he has built a team around him that has managed to bring to market a bunch of products that have their own section in the Museum of Modern Art. Those products also created the largest single consumer electronics customer base in existence.

It is hard to underrate him. We might not agree with all design decisions that he has or needed to make, but stating that Ive is overrated probably means that you are unaware of the impact his designs have had in society. A few lines on an iPhone or a bit fatter Apple TV do not suddenly make him a has-been in design.

In addition, his own influence Dieter Rams, praises him and Apple as one of the only companies that currently understand "design".
 
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The Verge review for iPhone is done by Mossberg, not Nilay. Just saying. I tried not to say anything negative in the forums as best as I could, otherwise ^%&*%$ Nilay!

Nilay is a twerp. His "review" of the watch was embarassing for their company and for him.
 
I have an upgrade in March, but I'm tempted to say screw it and pay full price and upgrade from the 5s. Too bad the particular model I want is out of stock.

So when the Space Gray 128gb model is back in stock, I'll pay full price and use my upgrade on the iPhone 7.
 
I'm switching from a Note 4 to the iPhone 6S. Any noticeable things I will have to learn? Are there any prep items I can do to make the switch easier and faster?
 
I just gave you a like but now that anand works for apple i dont how to view his reviews. I know he is detached now but all his past reviews could have been biased.

I don't see a problem here, because last reviews of Apple devices were written not by Anand but by Ryan Smith and Joshua Ho. I think they would write reviews of iPhone 6S/6S Plus too
Example: http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
 
I just gave you a like but now that anand works for apple i dont how to view his reviews. I know he is detached now but all his past reviews could have been biased.

he is used to be Pro PC then started doing review of Mac and then iPhone. do not think it has anything to do with he joined apple later on. It is looks apple like his work then hired him (not that he favored apple and then hired there).

his and his site reviews included SSDs, Display, Laptops and lot of different product category.
 
The review is by Nilay people!!!
so one cannot be honest and say what he/she think about a product? theverge has to always support Apple? then it is called advertisement (not review).

they still gave 9.0 out of 10.0 not sure what the fuss about theverge and the review.
 
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That is the key. The phone is used so much it is worth it.

Let's run some basic numbers

With the cost of upgrading being about $300 bucks ($750 to buy new phone, sell old phone that was kept in case and is in great condition for $450) and the phone being possibly the most important piece of personal tech you own, upgrading really does make a lot of sense if you are U.S. middle class or better off. If you are on a tighter budget, then maybe saving the $300 this year makes sense. But by waiting another year to sell your 6 you also eat the depreciation of that phone's value during that year.

So how much do you save if you only wait one extra year? if you upgrade next year, then you sell your now one year older phone for $300, so cost next year is $450 to upgrade. So if you would have upgraded twice for total of $600 then waiting an extra year has really only saved you $150.
This is why I'm upgrading. I'm actually doing the Apple upgrade plan because I don't like the hassle of selling, but if I can net $450 for my phone, that pays the lease for a year and I can get a hassle free upgrade. I use my phone more than anything. I have a 2008 MacBook Pro, an iPad 2 I'm going to sell even though it's not worth much just because I never use it now that the iPhone screen is big enough to view videos, etc. Paying like $1 a day to always have the latest device that you use hours a day really isn't that terrible.
 
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