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Yeah RAM on Android is a different game altogether but Samsung needs 8gb to work flawlessly probably lol

I was talking about the new Nexus 5. Some think it will only have 2 but people are up in arms saying 3 is needed.
 
Grow up, please.
You have your rants, and I have my rants. As for being grown up, what are you referring to, the 70 million users that have little or no issue, the reference that this is becoming akin to a religious cult, or adding a bit of humor with the kicking dead horse video, because in my opinion that's what it has become.
 
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Are people actually arguing AGAINST more RAM now. That is sad.

You know, Safari could cache to NAND as well and everyone would quit complaining about the reloading. But that is really not ideal with lower space (16GB) base phones.
 
Samsung is android, no?

Andrioid is an open source operating system. There is only one pure android build and that is typically only offered on a couple phones. Most everyone else has taken that open source and modified (ie Samsung). So it is BASED on android, but it is really a totally different version of the OS at that point.
 
You have your rants, and I have my rants. As for being grown up, what are you referring to, the 70 million users that have little or no issue, the reference that this is becoming akin to a religious cult, or adding a bit of humor with the kicking dead horse video, because in my opinion that's what it has become.

Are you counting the people that do have these issues but simply do not know that the lack of RAM is the cause?
 
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Even my Nokia N9 from 2011 has one gig of wam and it doesn't crash or refresh tabs when i have more than 3 open.

Apple should really just slap on a 4 gig chip and be like "bitch look this bill gates wreckin shizz". Having tabs refreshing is just a horrible user experience. Good thing though that Ios 9 has been better optimized than the iphone 4s performance tanking iOS 8.

Someone should really get on making a mobile OS that runs flawlessly and fast on very limited resources. A really good OS shouldn't need any more than a 100 mhz single core cpu and 100 megs of wam, this is possible but all the programmers and apple are just so lazy. I'm writing this on a 20 year old IBM thinkpad and it's exactly the same as if I were doing this on a modern macbook even though the macbook out to have 1000X the performance.
 
Once again, for like the 30th time this month, my Apple music shut down, and lost its place in my playlist and song profile, and restarted from the beginning after surfing safari for about 20 minutes. The RAM issue is real people.

Please be 2GB.
 
Are people actually arguing AGAINST more RAM now. That is sad.

You know, Safari could cache to NAND as well and everyone would quit complaining about the reloading. But that is really not ideal with lower space (16GB) base phones.
See that's the problem here. This isn't a black and white question. I have seen no one arguing against more RAM. What I have read is most people don't find 1GB of ram to be so limiting that they would give up their iPhone.

Do I notice reloads, yes. Do they interfere with my use of the phone, rarely. Would I want 2GB of RAM, yes absolutely. Do I think Apple has done a good job at balancing RAM size, battery life, user satisfaction with how the phone operates, yes I do. Do I feel that some of the proponents for more RAM are over zealous and tend to degrade those people that are not as fanatical as they are, absolutely.

Some phone manufacturers love to show paper stats on processor speeds, core quantities, ram, flashy named processors. And I dare say some people are sold by these numbers. However I, like most users, find that the optimization between hardware and software realized in the iPhone provides a more satisfying user experience.

I caught a you tube video on another thread that ran three phones against each other through a series of timed functions. Web, games, emails, etc. and then ran the same test again to see how reloads, and saved open apps influenced the test. Loe and behold the lower speed, lower RAM iPhone beat the android phones. Even though they had faster processors and more RAM. On paper they should have walked all over the iPhone.

Specs alone LIE. Prime example is over clocked processor, that on paper is half as fast again as slow iPhone processor. The lie is revealed when the Apple processor maintains it moderate speed throughout. While the snappier android processor has to reduce speed due to heat after a short time.

Are you counting the people that do have these issues but simply do not know that the lack of RAM is the cause?
Sure am

Even my Nokia N9 from 2011 has one gig of wam and it doesn't crash or refresh tabs when i have more than 3 open.

Apple should really just slap on a 4 gig chip and be like "bitch look this bill gates wreckin shizz". Having tabs refreshing is just a horrible user experience. Good thing though that Ios 9 has been better optimized than the iphone 4s performance tanking iOS 8.

Someone should really get on making a mobile OS that runs flawlessly and fast on very limited resources. A really good OS shouldn't need any more than a 100 mhz single core cpu and 100 megs of wam, this is possible but all the programmers and apple are just so lazy. I'm writing this on a 20 year old IBM thinkpad and it's exactly the same as if I were doing this on a modern macbook even though the macbook out to have 1000X the performance.
Right just slap on 4GB ram and watch the battery life complainers go ape s**t.
 
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I am not sure how to change the title of the thread in this new forum format. When I try to edit my OP, it only allows me to change the body of the post, not the title.

Any mods want to help me out here?

Perhaps you would like this thread closed instead? No need to change the title since the question posed originally was valid at the time you started the thread.
 
Chipworks did an analysis on the A9 shown at the M9 slide in the keynote, seen here.

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It shows 2 cores, 6 GPU cores in a 2x3 cluster, and 2 SRAM spots. That pretty much confirms 2GB, and the fact that several Apple employees also confirm 2GB makes this thread a done deal now.
 
Once again, for like the 30th time this month, my Apple music shut down, and lost its place in my playlist and song profile, and restarted from the beginning after surfing safari for about 20 minutes. The RAM issue is real people.

Please be 2GB.
Have you tried not surfing and listening to music at same time? Grins............just joking.
 
Chipworks did an analysis on the A9 shown at the M9 slide in the keynote, seen here.

a9ann_branded-png.580491


It shows 2 cores, 6 GPU cores in a 2x3 cluster, and 2 SRAM spots. That pretty much confirms 2GB, and the fact that several Apple employees also confirm 2GB makes this thread a done deal now.
Thank you Jesus! Err Cook, err Ivy, no Federichi.......Chipworks.

This better work, hate to see this rant start all over wanting 4GB. Here is a scary thought, what if the problem wasn't the RAM? Should know by 26th of 'September. You all be sure to order tonight at stroke of midnight PST.
 
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Right just slap on 4GB ram and watch the battery life complainers go ape s**t.

I think you make very fair points here (your long response above). Not disagreeing with you. But I don't see how idle ram (which should be the case for most users at 4GB) would consume more batter than reloading safari pages. Even active RAM is not very power hungry.
 
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