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if your on a 30-45minute bus ride, are you going to be stuck on 1 page?

If you enjoy reading, you can easily go through 10-20 pages of articles/forums etc in 30 mins.

If you save 10secs per page load, that is an extra 3 mins you get to read one more article/page/...

Sounds AWESOME!!!
Wait... you were complaining about this, yeah? Or thinking that reading a single extra webpage per 45 minutes is somehow going to affect your data usage in a noticeable way?? lulz
 
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I am not getting this. You are not the first post to raise the point "useless without unlimited data plan." If I have 5 gig, then, um, I have 5 gig. What does the speed have to do with capacity? At least in my case, my usage habit is not affected by speed, it's affected by availability.

I currently have 15 gig plan to support the entire family. We never exceed our capacity. Why will a faster chip, all of a sudden, require an unlimited plan?
We've been through this for years. Faster speed more data used. You just inherently burn through more data. What you could do in 5 min now you can in 2 min, and so forth
 
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Yes but the faster speeds allows for me to load more pages in a set amount of time.

That's true, but one's free will and lack of self control drives more pages being loaded. Everyone has the ability to act without the constraint of fate. If you're concerned about data caps, etc, simply choose to not load those pages. If you really need to load those "extra" pages, then consider a different data plan. Easy.
 
We've been through this for years. Faster speed more data used. You just inherently burn through more data. What you could do in 5 min now you can in 2 min, and so forth

You might, others necessarily don't. Everyone "inherently" comes equipped with self-control, free-will, and the ability to act according to their needs.
 
If we get Force Touch, decent Camera, decent Ram, and faster processor/LTE speed...these are, yeah these are little things but they add up to a good enough update that I will buy.

As long as the entry iPhone is 32GB and they have other colors.
Coming from a 5C, even a regular old 6 would be a huge upgrade (even Touch ID will be 'new'). So, anything in top of that is a bonus.
 
I am not getting this. You are not the first post to raise the point "useless without unlimited data plan." If I have 5 gig, then, um, I have 5 gig. What does the speed have to do with capacity? At least in my case, my usage habit is not affected by speed, it's affected by availability.

I currently have 15 gig plan to support the entire family. We never exceed our capacity. Why will a faster chip, all of a sudden, require an unlimited plan?

it's more straight forward than you think it is.
Safari for example, loads the first search result before you even click on it. why? to make the user experience faster.
now, what happens when you don't click on the first result?
with a fast data connection, too late, it's already loaded.
with a slower data connection, your response time (ie clicking on another link, or leaving safari,etc...) will be faster than the loading time. result: loading stops and less data will be used.

there's plenty of other examples:
you open the youtube app by mistake, and click on home button right after. with a fast data connection, hop, a few dozen Mb are gone as some stuff has already loaded.
facebook is same, while you browse the newsfeed, videos and photo load that with a slow connection, you might just never see as you scroll faster than they load
etc...
 
I couldn't even use LTE on my iPhone 5 and currently can't with my 6 Plus. Not expecting to be able to use it on the 6S Plus nor the 7 until AT&T stops throttling me 24/7.
 
it's more straight forward than you think it is.
Safari for example, loads the first search result before you even click on it. why? to make the user experience faster.
now, what happens when you don't click on the first result?
with a fast data connection, too late, it's already loaded.
with a slower data connection, your response time (ie clicking on another link, or leaving safari,etc...) will be faster than the loading time. result: loading stops and less data will be used.

there's plenty of other examples:
you open the youtube app by mistake, and click on home button right after. with a fast data connection, hop, a few dozen Mb are gone as some stuff has already loaded.
facebook is same, while you browse the newsfeed, videos and photo load that with a slow connection, you might just never see as you scroll faster than they load
etc...

Settings > Safari > Preload Top Hit (turn it off...actually, it's off by default)

Opening Youtube app by mistake takes you to the main page; it does not play some random video automatically; loading a couple of video thumbnails is not few dozen MBs

Facebook does not load everything at once; even in a fast connection, it loads as you scroll down. It just seems seamless because it's loading faster.
 
Useless in the U.S. for the most part with all these data caps and "unlimited" data plans.
I wish Apple removed 100 Mb cap on app downloads. I can't even update iOS without resorting to a wifi network, regardless of my phone data plan.
 
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Is that really useful anymore ? I mean all that extra CPU, GPU and Internet speeds...
I'm most likely going to buy an iPhone 6s, but I feel like I haven't even attained the limits of my iPhone 5 yet.

What I want is : more storage, increased memory, huge camera improvements, improvements on the Specific Absorption Rate score, the removal of these thick lines in the design, huge battery improvements, a nano-projectorm and the possibility to switch between e-Ink and OLED screen :D

More seriously, the improvements that are much needed on the iPhone at this point are software-side IMO. iOS 9 has welcome additions, but it's slowly playing catchup.
 
Enough of this flush camera whining. Putting the phone in a protective case solves the problem.

While I don't mind the protruding camera, it may bother others, but, a case is not a solution. They may want to enjoy the form factor without the case but the protruding camera bothers them.
 
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Sounds AWESOME!!!
Wait... you were complaining about this, yeah? Or thinking that reading a single extra webpage per 45 minutes is somehow going to affect your data usage in a noticeable way?? lulz

o_O, I have to explain I guess.

I was never complaining, I was trying to explain why people might think that faster speed = more usage.

If I watch 5 more mins of video on the bus twice a day every day, will that not effect my overall data cap?
That is 200 minutes of extra video a month. You are right, no noticeable data usage from that either.
 
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300Mbps? You could go through a typical 4GB data plan in a record 109 seconds. In 2007 I had unlimited data and in 2015 I have 7GB. Progress.

I love how Gurman is dragging out these posts. He deserves to spread it out and get a ton of views for content like this. He's sitting on top of this huge story with beautifully detailed images and he knows he can take his time because nobody else in the whole blogging industry has sources as good as he does. It was useless trying to compete with him for the bigger stories at 9to5.
 
o_O, I have to explain I guess.

I was never complaining, I was trying to explain why people might think that faster speed = more usage.

If I watch 5 more mins of video on the bus twice a day every day, will that not effect my overall data cap?
That is 200 minutes of extra video a month. You are right, no noticeable data usage from that either.

Say your bus ride is 20 minutes long. The best you can do is watch videos worth 20 minutes, right? How does having a faster internet give you the ability to watch 25 minutes of videos? Mobile internet is already fast enough to not make us wait when watching videos.
 
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That's true, but one's free will and lack of self control drives more pages being loaded. Everyone has the ability to act without the constraint of fate. If you're concerned about data caps, etc, simply choose to not load those pages. If you really need to load those "extra" pages, then consider a different data plan. Easy.

They need a head smack emoji...:mad:

I am making a simple point:

With constant usage over 30 mins of your phone you will use more data over 30 mins.

If I plan to watch youtube videos constantly every day on my 30min bus ride, I WILL END UP USING MORE DATA WITH A FASTER CONNECTION.

I am not complaining about my usage, and am just trying to explain to people why some think faster speed = more data.
 
Say your bus ride is 20 minutes long. The best you can do is watch videos worth 20 minutes, right? How does having a faster internet give you the ability to watch 25 minutes of videos? Mobile internet is already fast enough to not make us wait when watching videos.

On a 20min bus ride you will not be able to watch 20minutes worth of video because you have app loading, buffering, sometimes disconnects that require rebuffering.

So if on a 20min bus ride you are able to watch 18 mins of video on a 50Mb/s connection, you might be able to watch 19mins of video on a 300Mb/s connection. We dont all live in super fast LTE area

That is all.
 
You might not see much improvement in speed when the 6S launches in September, but by 2017 when you are still using the same phone on a continuously upgraded network...

Or you could get an iPhone 7, and have a cool new phone and also faster speeds on an even more efficient chipset?
 
So, a new LTE chip that will benefit no one in the US because the carriers won't support that speed?

I guess Apple is back to throwing up the middle finger to the "S" upgrade cycle. Unshocking, though -- the 5S has really been the only S series phone worth owning.


It's almost as if they sell the iPhone in more places than just the USA, right?

Who'd have thought!
 
On a 20min bus ride you will not be able to watch 20minutes worth of video because you have app loading, buffering, sometimes disconnects that require rebuffering.

So if on a 20min bus ride you are able to watch 18 mins of video on a 50Mb/s connection, you might be able to watch 19mins of video on a 300Mb/s connection.

That is all.

If your app is taking time to buffer on a 50 Mb/s connection then you are not seeing a 50Mb/s speed.
 
If your app is taking time to buffer on a 50 Mb/s connection then you are not seeing a 50Mb/s speed.

It is just a point being made, lets exaggerate and compare 1Mb/s to 50Mb/s.

Who knows, maybe I am trying to stream 8k content. Look at the big picture.
 
It is just a point being made, lets exaggerate and compare 1Mb/s to 50Mb/s.

Who knows, maybe I am trying to stream 8k content. Look at the big picture.

I already said that if you were going from a really really really slow speed to a high-speed connection then you would consume more (read my posts above), but, going from a current technology to even faster wouldn't make you consume more 'cause you are limited by time and other factors.

If you are streaming 8k then that is by your choice. Like I said, if my usage habit does not change then I am not going to consume more.
 
I already said that if you were going from a really really really slow speed to a high-speed connection then you would consume more (read my posts above), but, going from a current technology to even faster wouldn't make you consume more 'cause you are limited by time and other factors.

If you are streaming 8k then that is by your choice. Like I said, if my usage habit does not change then I am not going to consume more.

You are arguing something very different for no reason. I am just stating a logical fact, not taking into consideration, your likes, content, feelings, willpower, or any other emotion. Straight hard numbers down to the decimal.

I am just saying that faster speed will allow you to use more data. With current technology and content, that number might be small. But as we move forward that will change.

For you that might not change because you have willpower but for someone who might work 12 hours a day and just wants mindlessly watch as much of a particular show on his bus ride home it might. There is no point arguing about what might effect this, that or the other person because everyone is different.
 
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