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I couldn't even use LTE on my iPhone 5 and currently can't with my 6 Plus. Not expecting to be able to use it on the 6S Plus nor the 7 until AT&T stops throttling me 24/7.
Isn't AT&T already over!? Except in remote mountain/desert locales!
 
Those of you saying people with limited data plans, or people in the US will not benefit from this new chips are confusing speed with throughput. A fatter pipe will allow you to receive content faster. There is benefit in this.
 
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I don't follow how this is true. Usually the action that takes time is actually consuming the content, not waiting for it to loan. Whether it loads at 50Mbps or 300Mbps, a 15 minute podcast will still take 15 minutes to listen to; a 3 minute song will still take 3 minutes to listen to; a 2000-word New York Times article will still be 2000-words; etc.

The only media I can think of that usually loads slower than I can consume are small pictures - like Instagram. Other than that, I don't see how more speed means more used.

Except now Netflix will stream at a higher bitrate because you have a higher quality pipe (okay, configure it to stay lower - sure).

His original argument stands though ... If it takes less time to load data, you will be able to make more requests / load more data.

Anyone who thinks a faster pipe doesn't lead to more data use is naive.
 
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Except it's transfer rate, not latency. I expect the lag to still be horrible, but the downloads fast.

Correct, first person shooters does not necessarily require a Fatter pipe. They are best served over a fast 'low latency' connection of <100ms. I prefer a <50ms latency connection to the server.
 
I think the iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4 was probably the biggest overall jump

Because of the retina screen, front facing camera and redesign, yes it was a huge jump.

But tech wise? No way was it a big jump tech wise, let alone the "biggest" jump tech wise. It uses almost the exact same chips, only with a higher clock speed and in a more power efficient design. And twice the RAM but that was necessary given the retina screen and what came with it.

Phone redesigns or "numbered" upgrades are never the biggest chipset upgrades. The only phone that really had a solid chipset upgrade to the prior S model imo was the iPhone 5.

The retina screen was the big deal with the iPhone 4, as was the exceptional build quality, and introduction of facetime.


Some people are looking forward to this S upgrade, others are not. These opinions are all fine, but people should not be erroneously suggesting that "S" upgrades do not offer anything other than a "marginal" upgrade - which is simply not true.
 
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I've been googling to see if this modem supports band 12 with no luck whatsoever. I'm sure it probably does, though.
I've been googling too. Nothing definitive shows up, but I did find that the Galaxy S6 has this modem, and the S6 is on T-mobile's list of phones compatible with band 12 . I don't know if there are different implementations of the modem though, or what other factors there may be.
 
Processor speed increases are almost always meaningless in the iOS ecosystem, where virtually every app developer is required to support legacy hardware 2-3 generations back in order to be profitable.

Having to "support" older hardware doesn't make new ones meaningless. Are you trying to tell me you don't see a performance difference between an iPhone 4S and an iPhone 6? I assure you I can as can everyone else I know who's used both.
 
You might not see much improvement in speed when the 6S launches in September, but by 2017 when you are still using the same phone on a continuously upgraded network...

Ha! By 2017 the battery in this model iphone won't last but 3 hours from a full charge till dead. Until cell carriers stop ripping us off, or should I say, until us customers make a stand and stop letting them rip us off with data limits, faster LTE capabilities in the phone doesn't benefit any of us except the lower power consption.
 
good news for us unlimited data users.
bad news for you 2GB plan users.
when LTE first debuted, i blew thru 1GB in a couple hours, u don't know how much you really use until you measure it haha

I have unlimited with Verizon. Used to use it all the time but the LTE has gone from good to horrible in my area.
 
If I plan to watch youtube videos constantly every day on my 30min bus ride, I WILL END UP USING MORE DATA WITH A FASTER CONNECTION.

OK... So if you normally watch five 6 minute videos during your 30min bus ride, with a faster connection, let's say twice as fast, you will now be able to watch ten 6 minute videos during your 30min bus ride?

Got it...
 
So we're getting (hopefully):

- 14nm A9/M9
- 2GB RAM
- 12mp rear camera
- Upgraded FaceTime front camera
- Force Touch
- Upgraded LTE chip
- Upgraded TouchID
- Series 7000 aluminum
- Maybe multitasking with iOS 9
 
OK... So if you normally watch five 6 minute videos during your 30min bus ride, with a faster connection, let's say twice as fast, you will now be able to watch ten 6 minute videos during your 30min bus ride?

Got it...

Yes, this is correct.

I guess I could have phrased it better. The faster speeds, allows us to use more data in the same amount of time a slower speed would
 
OK... So if you normally watch five 6 minute videos during your 30min bus ride, with a faster connection, let's say twice as fast, you will now be able to watch ten 6 minute videos during your 30min bus ride?

Got it...

Yes, this is correct.

I guess I could have phrased it better. The faster speeds, allows us to use more data in the same amount of time a slower speed would

Thank you. I have been trying to figure out how to watch 60 minutes worth of videos in only 30 minutes time. Sounds like you have it figured out.
 
Just because the chip is in there doesn't mean the phone will take advantage of the increased speed. It could very well be that it's simply the latest and greatest and has been bought at a good price vs older/other chips.
 
Thank you. I have been trying to figure out how to watch 60 minutes worth of videos in only 30 minutes time. Sounds like you have it figured out.

I was being sarcastic....

Lets take this hypotethical situation: 5Mb/s speed, your getting the full speed for 20 mins and you watch multiple videos
Total Buffering time = 2 mins
Total watch time = 18 mins

Now you have a 10Mb/s, everything stays the same.
Total Buffering time = 1 mins (because of faster speed.
Total watch time - 19 mins.

Now you following?
 
I care less for faster speeds, but am hoping that this means that Apple will be able to finally make one phone that is compatible with all the networks - at least in the US as this is long overdue.
 
Does anyone outside U.S. have unlimited data plans anyway to find benefit in this? I blow through 5 GB data per week according to my local Sprint guy. I really don't pay much attention with my unlimited data.
Heck, does anyone inside the U.S. have carriers that even support this speed if they have unlimited data plans?
Just because you can download data faster doesn't mean you will use more data. That is, your hours in a day that you can use your phone are limited, a 2 hr movie is still a two hour movie, and a 3 minute song is still a 3 minute song. Unless someone was bottlenecked at LTE speeds, what typical phone user actually is?, most people won't see any data use difference. FWIW, I have no need for anything faster than LTE, or even 4G in most cases. Extra battery life would be nice, but is not needed either.
 
We've been through this for years. Faster speed more data used. You just inherently burn through more data. What you could do in 5 min now you can in 2 min, and so forth

NO!
You are simply WRONG.
What uses data? Loading webpages?? Not really.
Streaming video? Absolutely. Streaming music? Absolutely.
GPS? Absolutely.
So, let's back up & look at this. When you stream a video at a locked bitrate, can it possibly take more data to stream the same video? No. When you listen to the same song at the same quality on two different phones... would one have even the possibility of using more data? No.
So.... the ONLY example you people have is loading a regular text web page, which uses negligible data in the 1st place. Every time this comes up & you people start acting a fool, it gets more and more annoying.
o_O, I have to explain I guess.

I was never complaining, I was trying to explain why people might think that faster speed = more usage.

If I watch 5 more mins of video on the bus twice a day every day, will that not effect my overall data cap?
That is 200 minutes of extra video a month. You are right, no noticeable data usage from that either.

Word.
You get it.
My bad... I honestly must've misunderstood your post.

Yup! I agree with you... I think everybody is aware of their data caps. Those that have unlimited don't even worry... those that have 2 or 4 gigabytes are good at gauging their usage. Speed doesn't really play a factor... it is simply a function of time & amount of content streamed.
Obviously if I get a ten times faster mobile data connection, I don't start having ten more time free time in the day to stream video or something. Likely, I would still have the same amount of free time and would consume close to what I consume now.
If somebody knows , for example, that they can watch about 100 videos a month & never breach their data cap... they're not likely to suddenly alter their habits to watching twice the amount because the buffering time decreased from thee seconds to .3 seconds or something.
 
Incremental improvements resulting in a slightly nicer overall experience. Which is great, nothing wrong with that (it's not like the 6 has a lot of issues that need fixing), but it's not exactly thrilling, either. Typical S update.
The 5S was massive upgrade so not sure why you'd think that : touch ID, A7 were on that phone and nobody would say they were minor improvements. They were the start of Samsung's slide!
 
NO!
You are simply WRONG.
What uses data? Loading webpages?? Not really.
Streaming video? Absolutely. Streaming music? Absolutely.
GPS? Absolutely.
So, let's back up & look at this. When you stream a video at a locked bitrate, can it possibly take more data to stream the same video? No. When you listen to the same song at the same quality on two different phones... would one have even the possibility of using more data? No.
So.... the ONLY example you people have is loading a regular text web page, which uses negligible data in the 1st place. Every time this comes up & you people start acting a fool, it gets more and more annoying.


Word.
You get it.
My bad... I honestly must've misunderstood your post.

Yup! I agree with you... I think everybody is aware of their data caps. Those that have unlimited don't even worry... those that have 2 or 4 gigabytes are good at gauging their usage. Speed doesn't really play a factor... it is simply a function of time & amount of content streamed.
Obviously if I get a ten times faster mobile data connection, I don't start having ten more time free time in the day to stream video or something. Likely, I would still have the same amount of free time and would consume close to what I consume now.
If somebody knows , for example, that they can watch about 100 videos a month & never breach their data cap... they're not likely to suddenly alter their habits to watching twice the amount because the buffering time decreased from thee seconds to .3 seconds or something.

Throw everything about people and what they might or might not do out the window, because if we look at it that way there are a million possibilities.

Is the following exaggerated situation not true?

5Mb/s speed, your getting the full speed for 20 mins and you watch multiple videos
Total Buffering time = 2 mins
Total watch time = 18 mins

Now you have a 10Mb/s, everything stays the same.
Total Buffering time = 1 mins (because of faster speed.)
Total watch time = 19 mins.

It is 100% true. Slice it what ever way you want, it will come out the same. If a video loads 1 mins faster you will have 1 more min of time to watch than you would have had before. Regardless of what else has to be done. This is basic math, stop taking into account what a person might or might not do and look at the facts.

You can't just say, people won't suddenly change their habits because there are 6 billion people in this world and I can guarantee you atleast one of them would if their cap went from 1GB to unlimited. I know mine would change a fair amount.
 
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