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Is this the only way we can get these phones - I mean Samsung doesn't have these issues and phones prior to iPhone didn't have backorders and delayed shipping. How can we get out of this cycle? Because the best way to get your phone early is to indeed pre-order, but when that doesn't work what other option do you have?
The reality is that the only issue is one of demand outstripping supply. Could Apple be doing this on purpose? Sure -- lots of reasons why.

However, I don't think that's what Apple's doing, even though they've been at this for a long time.

Perspective: they are selling a product to a market and they don't know how it will fare. They can't always guarantee it'll be a hot seller; that's part of the reason there aren't 50 million devices (almost literally) by launch day (aside from practical supply chain reasons and all).

OTOH, since news reports state Apple's increasing yield to 100 million units by year's end, they also recognize there is real demand and -- as with any competent business -- they want to sell as many as they can.

At the end of the day, when you preorder, you guarantee a place for yourself in line. It may not be quick, but it's going to happen.

Mine:
2 IP7+ MB 256GB, ordered 9/9 8:30am/12:30pm ET, 9/23-9/30
 
so a chat CSR just told me the reason that some customers might have gotten their's before me is because they had express shipping available to them....WTF?!!
SMH -- express shipping happens after order fulfillment and during final delivery, not prior to reaching the carrier (AT&T). Wow. Total miscommunication.
 
No phone for me today, I'm disappointed but it's not the end of the world. Have a 9/23-9/30 ship date. Guess I'll get it next week or the week after.
This all could have been prevented if apple had realistic estimates for delivery. If you can't provide enough phones for preorder on a certain date, you should push the date back. Nobody would complain if launch was 9/23 and you had enough product to cover preorders.
 
The reality is that the only issue is one of demand outstripping supply. Could Apple be doing this on purpose? Sure -- lots of reasons why.

However, I don't think that's what Apple's doing, even though they've been at this for a long time.

Perspective: they are selling a product to a market and they don't know how it will fare. They can't always guarantee it'll be a hot seller; that's part of the reason there aren't 50 million devices (almost literally) by launch day (aside from practical supply chain reasons and all).

OTOH, since news reports state Apple's increasing yield to 100 million units by year's end, they also recognize there is real demand and -- as with any competent business -- they want to sell as many as they can.

At the end of the day, when you preorder, you guarantee a place for yourself in line. It may not be quick, but it's going to happen.

Mine:
2 IP7+ MB 256GB, ordered 9/9 8:30am/12:30pm ET, 9/23-9/30
Put it aptly.
 
You can Apple Geek out to an older iPhone.

I still have my iPhone 6S so I will survive lol
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So I'm just going to assume there's a slim/no chance of receiving any black ip7+s tomorrow? I think I'll just go full hipster and switch to my old iPhone 4 in the meanwhile...

To be honest, I wish I still had my 4S.... i loved that little thing.... I would love to use an iPhone 4S until my 7+ got here to feel the huge shift lol.... plus it would be really retro.... thats it, Im amazoning a iPhone 4S lol
 
Well guys I had to cancel my order for oct 14-21 arrival because guess what??? Got my phone walking into an Apple Store in manhattan!!!! Never again will I preorder!!!!! Left At&t and now with VERIZON ❤️
 
Well guys I had to cancel my order for oct 14-21 arrival because guess what??? Got my phone walking into an Apple Store in manhattan!!!! Never again will I preorder!!!!! Left At&t and now with VERIZON ❤️
you know....I would love to do that but I think that patience is key and I really like the jet black look so I know I wouldn't have let myself cancel the order but congrats to you
 
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I hate AT&T and their crappy customer service along with their horrid order fulfillment system. Makes no sense how people who ordered two days ago are enjoying the same phone I ordered 3 minutes before preorders started and all they can say is "Sorry for the inconvenience". Sorry just isn't good enough. Never will order from AT&T again. Everyone running the order fulfillment system should be fired.
 
Maybe, but I'm still betting that many 9-23/9-30 and beyond in any of the black Plus colors are not yet manufactured. I spoke to a friend at Apple who said going a week early really stressed manufacuring on the bigger phones. We'll see. I'm not expecting them to ship my phone until the very last moment they can (9-30) and still be able to tell me "well, we told you between 9/23 and 9-30". That would be so AT&T.
I go with my original posting on this way back in the original pages of this thread.

Those of us in the 9/23-9/30 shipping window are likely in the "second wave," if it can be called that.

And, as mentioned in the news about Apple adjusting for 100 million units shipped by year's end, it shouldn't be too long before our preorders hit.

Mine:
2 IP7+ MB 256GB, ordered 9/9 8:30am/12:30pm ET, 9/23-9/30
 
Sorry guys.. I ordered 128 7+ Gold on 9/12 and estimated ship date 10/10-10-17. I already got my shipment notification today from ups that it would arrive Monday , I feel guilty receiving the phone before all of you guys who ordered the minute it was released. That's not how this should work. There's obviously something wrong with AT&T's shipping software.

-KC
 
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I guess thats good news...that means AT&T will start soon
I sure hope so...and I have yet to see a 7+ JB in the wild. People are saying even the Apple stores don't have one on display. If I didn't see that some have shipped I was beginning to believe they don't exist.
 
Sorry guys.. I ordered 128 7+ Gold on 9/12 and estimated ship date 10/10-10-17. I already got my shipment notification today from ups that it would arrive Monday , I feel guilty receiving the phone before all of you guys who ordered the minute it was released. That's not how this should work. There's obviously something wrong with AT&T's shipping software.

-KC


don't feel guilty, ship the phone to me, and ill take care the rest :)
 
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Just got off chat with ATT and they said supply is good but demand was overwhelming. Therefore, they are revising the shipment dates are they are prepared. So I guess I gotta be patiently waiting... :(
 
I go with my original posting on this way back in the original pages of this thread.

Those of us in the 9/23-9/30 shipping window are likely in the "second wave," if it can be called that.

And, as mentioned in the news about Apple adjusting for 100 million units shipped by year's end, it shouldn't be too long before our preorders hit.

Mine:
2 IP7+ MB 256GB, ordered 9/9 8:30am/12:30pm ET, 9/23-9/30
Still amazing that you could order 8 hours later and get the same dates as me, who ordered at 11:58pm Thursday night. This whole Plus Black 256 thing was rigged from the beginning. NO ONE mentioned ANY kind of shortages except the JB, so they set us up. We were never going to get launch day phones no matter how early you ordered. I'm betting they ship at the last possible moment on 9-30. This way they can still brag that they shipped on time. Unreal.
 
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anybody pre-ordered MINS BEFORE PRE-ORDER???
 

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