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iPhone 7 Again Said to Ship With Lightning-to-3.5mm Headphone Dongle
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Erm, every single lightning port device requires an adapter mate? Did you forget the years and years and years of 30 pin connector Apple devices prior to the Lightning connector? All those accessories people had bought to work with 30 pin connectors, an entire industry of accessories built up on the 30 pin connector.
I guess you had forgotten about that and all the outrage when people had to go around buying adapters when Apple changed the connector, because Apple never supplied an adapter and I seriously doubt it will now, it likes making obscene profits on adapters, $5 is a pipe dream, they still sell the 30 pin to lightning adapted for $30 plus tax and shipping.
My personal feelings on the new iPhone design is its seemingly becoming more and more and more fragmented, You want a nice camera, unlike Samsung, you have to buy the bigger phablet iPhone for that!! All in the name of thinness.. It's getting pathetic, we shall see what happens next year, but personally I still refuse to have a giant phone slab and if other makes start to supersede the 4.7" camera performance, I may have to rethink about the iPhone again.
If they don't include OIS in this years 4.7" model then it's just one big fail imo.
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They won' t launch an iPhone pro.
Instead they ' ll launch an iPhone Bro' .
It will be legen.... wait for it... dary.
Legendary!
High five!
Whatup!
When has Apple ever sold an accessory for $5??!
How many Apple dongles do I own? Hmmmmm...none At least they have come up with a solution where I can continue to use my existing headsets.
The removal of the headphone jack is nothing more then Apple removing a worldwide common standard, in order to force its OWN standard on its customers all to make more profit, in a world where which offers the better sound quality of different speakers and amps and headphones, and even vynl vs cd is very subjective and personal and always has been, don't buy for a second any BS Apple tells you about how much better it sounds! Go to a big club in Ibiza for instance and they still have record decks in use... Says it all imo.
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johnnyturbouk
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I agree, I think I will skip the IP7, as I have purchased an ipad pro and imac 5k, the 6s is doing just fine and i have very little incentive to upgrade. However, I only update annually, and out of interest, why do you update your phone twice a year?
Well i never really thought dongle could be interpreted in the way you suggest, unless someone has certain things on their mind! I feel they have gone with dongle instead of an adapter, as it sounds more expensive and they can duly charge more.
This slightly emotional outpour made me laugh, and I agree with your points fully.
More like $50, and the likelyhood of losing it is probably high, thus apple basking in the lucrative uplift charges they can command.
Yes, as they suck at banking. Next, we will have HSBC giving healthcare advice, and Llloyds reverting back to being a merchant coffee shop.
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Just wanted to correct you on the integration bit, not everything works like that in the Apple world, for instance trying to set up to share my iPhotos in my paid for iCloud storage has been one of the most difficult nightmare time consuming things I've tried, it's one complete mess. I have to add someone as a family member? And as for trying to select photos that weren't taken on an iPhone to a shared album good luck! They have to added one.....at......a......time!!!
I am currently looking at the alternatives although naturally only Apples built in iPhotos will automatically upload to the cloud in the background.
Apple has no clue how to do services, period.
johnnyturbouk
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That sums up succinctly apples history of venturing into cloud services, especially the dark days of mobile me; they should have just brought dropbox from the start and let that team guide them, albeit, icloud drive was welcomed, and i'm glad they finally relented and listened to their customers. As for iTunes match and apple music, don't get me started!
I'm not a big photo junkie and rarely take pics with my iPhone, usually use it to scan or screenshot web clips. However, i now use Qsync, I have a Qnap NAS and every time i connect an my iPhone/ipad it would prompt me, whether i wanted to upload my pictures, i clicked yes once to stop the messages. The solution worked well, and i can access the pictures on all my devices where i have Qsync installed, and i can also easily play they pictures from my LG TV as it connected to my NAS. Sounds simple if you have a qnap NAS, but i am sure there are other ways to do this.
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would be incredible if in the keynote...Tim Cook comes up and says.... "One last thing.....The iPhone7 supports wireless charging! "Please god I really want wireless charging
Only Apple can get away with such a rubbishy, ugly camera bump.
J. Ive has truly scammed Apple.
The devotees will buy anything.
J. Ive has truly scammed Apple.
The devotees will buy anything.
I think Apple has truly reached its zenith with the iPhone and this is to be expected. Its the same for the Macintosh, iPod and any other platform the company has produced over the past 20 years.
The Watch is an accessory and will remain a niche just like the Apple TV. They will be popular but not as influential as the Mac, iPod and iPhone were. Users need to stop looking for what's not there and accept the reality that physics, practical use case/functionality will determine what Apple can offer going forward.
We have accepted this with the MacBook Pro Retina and we realize making it thinner doesn't mean quality. Users are looking for more power, Kaby Lake, 32 GBs of RAM standard, possibly a 5K display. These are mostly internal improvements.
The issue with the iPhone is, innovation happened faster than the Mac did in its 30 years. When you compare the iPhone 6s to an iPhone from 2007, the improvements are striking; not to mention the functionality. Obviously, there is so much you can do with the exterior, ultimately, the next logical improvement will be internal going forward.
Apple is certainly looking for the next breakthrough, but there aren't many out there as mainstream and tangible as the past 3. Some say the car might be next, but when you take into account where commuting is going, which is Uber and Lyft, owning a motor vehicle is not the next must have, neither is the ability to have it take you where want go autonomously.
I just think we are going through a period industry wide now of doldrums and good enough for everyday needs. Where possible excitement can possibly happen is in health and I mean something really significant. Curing diseases, fixing ailments or regeneration of body parts or restoring complete health. Those really should be the areas I think both the tech and healthy industry should be targeting for the next 50 years.
The Watch is an accessory and will remain a niche just like the Apple TV. They will be popular but not as influential as the Mac, iPod and iPhone were. Users need to stop looking for what's not there and accept the reality that physics, practical use case/functionality will determine what Apple can offer going forward.
We have accepted this with the MacBook Pro Retina and we realize making it thinner doesn't mean quality. Users are looking for more power, Kaby Lake, 32 GBs of RAM standard, possibly a 5K display. These are mostly internal improvements.
The issue with the iPhone is, innovation happened faster than the Mac did in its 30 years. When you compare the iPhone 6s to an iPhone from 2007, the improvements are striking; not to mention the functionality. Obviously, there is so much you can do with the exterior, ultimately, the next logical improvement will be internal going forward.
Apple is certainly looking for the next breakthrough, but there aren't many out there as mainstream and tangible as the past 3. Some say the car might be next, but when you take into account where commuting is going, which is Uber and Lyft, owning a motor vehicle is not the next must have, neither is the ability to have it take you where want go autonomously.
I just think we are going through a period industry wide now of doldrums and good enough for everyday needs. Where possible excitement can possibly happen is in health and I mean something really significant. Curing diseases, fixing ailments or regeneration of body parts or restoring complete health. Those really should be the areas I think both the tech and healthy industry should be targeting for the next 50 years.
A dongle... nice and practical... um, yea. But, I guess my question is, what about durability? 3.5mm jacks and headphones aren't incredibly durable, but at least it's usually the cord that fails. But, wouldn't a Lightening connector be prone to breaking off inside the phone, or becoming able to wiggle a bit such that all the contacts don't make good connection... or, worse, even mess the port itself up? Plus, cord breakage.
Aside from a transition to digital (maybe good long-term), it seems like all downsides.
Aside from a transition to digital (maybe good long-term), it seems like all downsides.
Please god I really want wireless charging
You'll need it too with the new smaller battery and the new headphone system sucking the life out of your phone even faster than before. Oh, and no charging while you use those lightning headphones. Or twice the charging if you use bluetooth ones. Yay, you can't help but win!
Having that dongle would be great! It would combine the inconvenience of being unable to charge while listening with the lower audio quality of the analog jack and the need to be wired to your phone. In one fell swoop Apple will have come up with something that is worse than the 3.5mm jack, worse than bluetooth, and worse than lightning. That's innovative!
But that's not the point. Intel is pushing that as an alternative because manufacturers are going to have to eventuallydrop the headphone jack to remain competitive, and they want USBc to be the choice.
You're thesis is based entirely on Apple not being able to see the forest for the trees. And that seems highly unlikely. My point is that any high end Android will eventually sacrifice features in order to keep the headphone jack, and lose parity with Apple's high end offerings. I remain committed to the belief that Apple would not chose to remove the headphone jack if they didn't have to. What would be the reason? To make more profits from Lightning Licenses, and Beats headphone sales? Not likely. They would lose more from defecting customers to Android than they would ever recoup with such a short sighted business move.
No one has yet to offer a logical reason for Apple to chose to do this. And no "greed" is not a logical reason.
I don't see the problem with using whatever headphones you want with anything you want. Certainly your scenario of office vs. iPhone is the least of the problems, with a simple adapter plugged into your computer all the time. Likewise for the car, and home.
But, that said, there's no reason Apple would have to remove the 3.5mm jack from the iPhone Plus, assuming the 4.7" iPhone is the one they need the extra space for. Just like there's no reason to likely remove it from any iPad -- thus providing an incentive to pay Apple as much as possible for an all-inclusive iPhone. Frankly, I'd bet that Android went big, just so they could add features to compete with the iPhone while keeping everything they always had, while making the battery big enough to cope with the power hungry Android OS.
Not sure which is worse, that adapter, or the phone the anti-3.5mm jack removal crowd wants is:
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It would be a worse move to encourage customers to continue to use their old 3.5mm products rather than at least investigate alternatives which may offer a better overall experience.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of a strawman argument. Literally no one asked for obsolete standards to be reinstated in the iPhone, no one's suggesting that no attempts at technological advances be made. But the headphone jack is far from being obsolete and all existing alternatives at this point are objectively inferior. Apple removing a much used and perfectly adequate dedicated audio port only to offer a dongle as a solution is nothing short of lunacy. The Lightning port serving double duty as a charging and audio port will surely make it a higher point of failure, the dongle will be prone to being lost and will make the phone feel clunky to use, Bluetooth is still a poor substitute as it offers suboptimal sound quality and its reliability is still questionable at best. Not to mention it means your headphones will be yet another device you have to charge and you won't have the freedom to use it as you please like you can with wired headphones. It's the furthest thing from intuitive, forward-thinking design.
If Apple is going to get rid of the headphone jack for once and for all, they ought to at least have the decency to replace it with something significantly better in order to justify the transition pains. That is not what they are doing right now. That's why it's idiotic to compare it to past instances of established standards being phased out for another. In all those cases, we ended up with something superior that already existed at the time Apple chose to trash current standards. But that's not what's going on here. They haven't worked on refining Bluetooth technology first, they're not offering anything else that really makes the 3.5 mm jack seem like dinosaur technology. Their logic is to get rid of a highly functional port first, then figure out the alternatives later. That's doing things backwards. Hasty, poorly thought-out decisions is not what I have come to expect from a company that has set the standard for intelligent, user-friendly design. Sadly, profit-driven ambition seems to have taken precedence over offering a quality product that justifies its high markup.
Wow is the guy above me upset or what?
As expected the splody heads keep sploding as more and more rumors come out.
I'll be picking one up for sure. I won't upgrade all of my lines.... want to keep them all eligible for upgrade next year.
I like it as well.
As expected the splody heads keep sploding as more and more rumors come out.
I'll be picking one up for sure. I won't upgrade all of my lines.... want to keep them all eligible for upgrade next year.
Absolutely.
Just look at this guys posting history. He posted so much, ahem, "Quantity" about this topic that one has to get the impression, he earns a living with it.
He called people who disagreed or argued with him as trolls and then he goes ahead and posted that picture
Also remarkable, how this Internet guy recommended dongles and adapters to other forum members who raised concerns that they wouldn't be able to use their expensive headsets anymore. He argued dongles would be cheap when Chinese 3rd party manufacturers get on board, etc.
When people suggested Apple should at least strive toward a non proprietary solution like USB-C, the same guy replied and complained that he wouldn't be able to use his expensive existing accessories.
All of a sudden, he seemed not being able to remember his own previous argument of dongles and adapters, cheaply available from Chinese Manufacturers by then.
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You are my hero! I'd be put in time out for saying such things so I'll just like yours and give ya an addaboy!Here we go again with the ''Apple can't innovate'' army of cry babies. Someone remind me when Apple innovated?
Was it when the first iPhone came out and everybody laughed that it doesn't have 3G or video recording?
Or when they added 3G and a faster processor to the iPhone 3G?
Was is when the iPhone 4 only had the new screen resolution and problems with the antenna?
When iPhone 5 had nothing but a bigger screen and faster internals?
Siri anybody?!
And how far can innovation go? Like do you really want a phone with a water fountain or something really crazy that will make you think ''oh innovation
They are making a water proof iPhone - something apple users would only dream about prior to having the watch and dual cam that will likely change how we take photos with our phones and they'll remove the jack, uh - oh, There's bluetooth headphones for that, Apple removed the CD slot in all their computers several years ago and look, I don't even remember the proper name it had.
Thanks for reading this far, you are probably very angry by now. Sorry.