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iPhone 7 Hands-On: Improved Cameras, New Jet Black Color, AirPods, No Headphone Jack, and More

Oh for goodness sake. The S8 will come out without a headphone jack and everyone will tout that as such "Innovation" on Samsung's part.

Apple has always had the balls to take the lead on doing things no one else would do.....

Putting in a 3.5" Floppy instead of a 5.25" (go look it up Millennium's... I'm sure you have no idea what I'm even talking about here)

Removing the 3.5" Floppy and only shipping with an optical drive

Removing the optical drive all together

The original iphone design itself compared to every other cell phone on the market at the time

Completely trashing the old/obsolete FCP code and application for something streamlined for the sweetspot of the video editing market they wanted to serve

Removing the huge wide connector on the bottom and replacing it with a much smaller and more powerful lightening connector

Removing a useless/old/obsolete analog port and making space for newer more advance internal features

Get over it. A year from now no one will ever remember this..... they will all be foaming at the mouth because Apple took another (insert something here) and people will go apesh*t because there is change in their lives again.

Let's all just sit on our couches with our land lines and watch Ozzie and Harriet on our B&W TV's and life will be so fine again.
 
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I think the biggest thing people are forgetting with the transition from floppy to optical is that it wasn't going from an open tech to a proprietary one. Lightning will never become an audio standard. If Apple were really "courageous" as they claim, they would've also announced that they were opening Lightning adapters and no longer charging licensing fees.
 
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Personally I couldn't care less about earphones, earbuds or whatever else you want to call them as I never use my phones for listening to music anyway, never have, never will.

I do use my phone to send music to my home music setup, but as for earphones I've always given mine away as soon as I open the box. My only interest is the phone itself and on that score I don't see much reason to dash to my nearest Apple store and open my wallet.

I'm not saying Android are in any better position either so this isn't your usual iOS versus Android post. My own view is the market has matured, is saturated i.e. to many players and right now there isn't a whole lot new on the tech front driving forward advances in hardware. I think from now on phone releases are going to be evolutionary.

Because of this all manufacturers are going to have to come up with 'gimmicks' of one sort or another to keep the punters interested. This time around Apple are shedding the earphone socket and coming up with wireless earbuds. They also copied the dual lens camera from Android.

What will Android do - well maybe they will copy the wireless earbuds from Apple?
 
mralmostpopular said:
I think the biggest thing people are forgetting with the transition from floppy to optical is that it wasn't going from an open tech to a proprietary one. Lightning will never become an audio standard. If Apple were really "courageous" as they claim, they would've also announced that they were opening Lightning adapters and no longer charging licensing fees.
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As a shareholder I'm glad they don't. They are in business to make money. As far as how it affects things... just looked on Amazon and I can get 3' USB-C cables for $5.95 and 3' Lightening cables for $5.99. $0.04 really is not going to kill me. Doing a quick search on USB-C or Lightening headphones does not turn up much on either at the moment. I would suspect that will change over time but I doubt very seriously that you will see much difference in their prices and given that NOW with digital interfaces on either, you should see better differentiation or the chance for better differentiation between headphone manufacturers as they now control the D/A function. This is a win for consumers in my book.
 
Can someone point me in the direction of where they announced or listed how much RAM is in the 7 and 7 plus? I seem to believe they overlooked it and cannot find it listed on Apple's website!
 
Sandybox said:
Wow, I would never have surmised that the price is what it is - thanks for pointing that out.

Just because the processors benchmark faster than a "computer" (by which I assume you mean a mac, pc or laptop) doesn't mean those clock cycles are accessible to the end user except via phone-centric apps with limited functionality.

An instalment plan just means you take longer to pay the high price. That still doesn't mean, in my case, I feel the 7 is value for that money.
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Glad I could help you out!

The iPhone (really any of the iterations) is a computer. It's a computer that fits in your pocket. And for a lot of people, the cost matters less than the desire to have one device that can be your phone, web device, game device, email device, calculator, music player, camera, spreadsheet and document generator, etc. For many people using the new installment plan, they may never pay it off and simply be trading in their phones each year for a new one.
 
Legend of Ive said:
iPhone 2017 will come with ceramic body. Piano black and edge to edge. OLED display, wireless charge.

You heard it here first
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I for one can't wait till the piano black fad is over. It's the worst idea in years and it is everywhere. TV's, high end cars, phones, monitors.. A Big Yuck! Literally. Finger print mess 100% of the time. I hate it and hope it foes away and never returns.
 
themick4u said:
Can someone point me in the direction of where they announced or listed how much RAM is in the 7 and 7 plus? I seem to believe they overlooked it and cannot find it listed on Apple's website!
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I don't think Apple typically publishes that number. I think we usually find out from users testing in the field.
 
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As much as I'd love to get a new 7 with 256gb, losing the ability to charge and listen to my earbuds is a killer for me. Well that and having to fork out close to $1k to pay off our existing phones to upgrade.

My wife and I both sat there saying "we want that!" but as the excitement of seeing the new phone wore off, I realized we're going to skip these and see what they do for 8.
 
JonneyGee said:
It's nice to know the headphone jack adapter is only $9 by itself. For all of the rumors and hysteria that the adapters could cost $30 or more, I think Apple did a sufficient job today of quelling those fears.

I do wish they'd added a pass-through Lightning port to offer charging and playback simultaneously, however.
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Probably because they read this site and the fact that the iPhone 7 is a very small upgrade. Probably wanted to keep the negativity down to a minimal.
 
rimcrazy said:
As a shareholder I'm glad they don't. They are in business to make money. As far as how it affects things... just looked on Amazon and I can get 3' USB-C cables for $5.95 and 3' Lightening cables for $5.99. $0.04 really is not going to kill me. Doing a quick search on USB-C or Lightening headphones does not turn up much on either at the moment. I would suspect that will change over time but I doubt very seriously that you will see much difference in their prices and given that NOW with digital interfaces on either, you should see better differentiation or the chance for better differentiation between headphone manufacturers as they now control the D/A function. This is a win for consumers in my book.
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The point is not about how much headphones will cost. It's that many manufacturers of audio products will not create Apple specific products. 3.5mm is a standard. The only way this is better for the consumer is if the new option becomes a standard. Lightning will not become a standard as long as it's proprietary. Yes, there will be more Lightning headphones now, but all this does is fragment the market. That's not a win for consumers.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not in doom and gloom camp. It's going to be a pain to have to have an adapter, but the world won't end. I'm really just commenting on idea that this move is somehow better for consumers.
 
if I remember correctly, when MacRumors first reported on the company that invented the two-camera tech in the new 7 Plus, one of the technologies demonstrated was vastly improved low-light shots with minimal noise that were achieved using both cameras simultaneously along with software.

Does anyone know if that low-light technology will be released with the new iPhone?
 
iMember said:
My body is ready

for Galaxy S7 Edge ha ha

But seriously.. Fastest chip on a smartphone? Samsung should add Tizen to S7 just to prove how fast Samsung Exynos 8890 really is! Will destroy the iPhone 7 in terms of speed
If you want prove? wait until you see a comparison between Gears S3 vs Apple Watch, the Samsung single core will destroy the dual core from the :apple: Watch, Intel is the king PC cpu while Samsung is the king in mobile CPUs

Icon X is so much better in every aspect than the AirPods and Gear S3 Frontier will destroy the :apple: Watch especially in sales!

I just told my sister who owns a Galaxy S7..look the iPhone 7 just came out and your camera from the S7 it's better than the one from the iPhone 7 xD! I got admit they added some intersting stuff to the camera but when it comes to photo quality..the S7 wins!
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i think you will change your mind when you get your s7
 
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Dominicanyor said:
I'm very disappointed with the way Apple is handling the new iPhone without a headphone jack. The new iPhone 7 and plus should come with the wireless headphones. Why should we have to purchase it separately. That's a Real Bad Apple!!!!
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read what you get with the phone then comment.
 
Feenician said:
Whereas posts about "fanboys" and "Apple's cult-like control" are measured, realistic and totally in good taste. Apple just sold their billionth iPhone to "fanboys". Yep, that's a thing that happened.

Again, the definition of "pathetic" is not "disagrees with me"
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why are you on this forum.
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mountain said:
You really think $9 is justifiable? It should be free and the earphone jack is always welcome. They are trying to nickle and dime the customers.
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it is free with the phone.
 
BlankSlate said:
The Apple event yesterday made me want an Apple Watch finally. But it made it easier for me to skip this years iPhone. It looks almost identical to my 2 year old 6 Plus, wich is working just fine. But it will be fun to see what next year brings, maybe they'll remove those huge bezels finally. Would be nice to have a 5'5 inch screen in a more portable sized phone. Now that's a worthy upgrade!
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I agree.
The 7+ is just too big. I would love one, but it is rather clumsy now.

Now focus on screen, smaller bezels and a new design for next year. Especially on the + or pro. I don' t care about a faster soc or other internals. Iphone 7 is fast enough.
 
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StyxMaker said:
How did you happen to be on a bus full of cross dressers?
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Just an average day when I'm back Stateside on my way to Cupertino. ;)

PS drag queens aren't cross-dressers. Just thought you should know.
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hanafuda said:
Wait, what? Anything that is glossy will be more prone to showing fingerprints compared to something that is matte.
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From a previous post:

It'll hold up but is still more susceptible to scratches. For those wondering, it's very much similar to the Mac Pro. It won't show fingerprints as much as people might believe, but it will scratch. Imagine the Mac Pro's finish on an iPhone carried around all day.

If you're more concerned about fingerprints, get the jet black.
If you're more concerned about scratches, get the matte black.
If you're concerned about both, don't get the black.
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doelcm82 said:
Charging your phone in the daytime is one option to allow you to listen to music all night through the lightning port.
Buying a separate adapter with a passthrough for charging is another (if they don't exist now, they soon will).

If you have headphones with a 3.5mm plug, you can use Apple's charging dock.

I'm really having a hard time getting upset about your dilemma.
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Yeah, until the phone runs out of battery through the night while you can't charge your phone while you are listening to musics and then realizing that your phone doesn't starts the alarm in the morning that you are in need of to get up and get to the job, because the phone losts all of it's battery through the night by listening to musics.

GREAT IDEA FOLKS.
 
Tom-Helge said:
Yeah, until the phone runs out of battery through the night while you can't charge your phone while you are listening to musics and then realizing that your phone doesn't starts the alarm in the morning that you are in need of to get up and get to the job, because the phone losts all of it's battery through the night by listening to musics.

GREAT IDEA FOLKS.
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Get the lightning dock. Or the Belkin adapter. There are options.
 
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