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iPhone 7 Modded to Include Fully Functional 3.5mm Headphone Jack

jdiamond said:
So you no longer care about listening to high fidelity music without dongles? You can buy a $750 pair of wireless headphones and it still sounds worse than a $50 pair of wired headphones because the bluetooth standard they're using simply doesn't have the bandwidth. (And if you connect it to a 3rd party device like your car, it's absolutely abysmal because it drops to the lowest possible speed.) . And that's the real point - if Apple had instead created a new wireless standard that could transmit high quality audio, then this would just be about the minor annoyances of buying new hardware and charging headphones, etc. But it's not. The ONLY way to get high quality music out of an iPhone7 is to carry around a bunch of annoying dongles. Wireless doesn't do it. Oh - but there's no need to make a phone portable... I love having huge dongles in my pockets.

Bottom line is Apple did this to sell headphones. It was not to help customers in any way. And posts like this just help their cause.
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You don't need to be "carrying" dongles (and it's one dongle, not a "bunch" as you say. And it's tiny, not "huge" as you say). You can keep the adapter plugged into your favourite pair of headphones permanently. Much simpler that carrying it separately.
 
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jdiamond said:
And that's the real point - if Apple had instead created a new wireless standard that could transmit high quality audio, then this would just be about the minor annoyances of buying new hardware and charging headphones, etc. But it's not.
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They didn't have to. It was already there. Apple (and a few other earbud/headphone OEMs) use AAC instead of the nasty EDR audio standard that most people use with BlueTooth, or the proprietary AptX standard.
 
I think it's a fun experiment and I love his videos because they show a culture so different than the one I'm used to, but this is not much different than someone making a movie about adding a floppy drive to an iMac. It would absolutely be an interesting experiment but Apple has moved beyond that tech, as they have now the 3.5mm jack — and all the others are inevitably going to follow.

The only valid argument for the 3.5mm jack is that it's in widespread use. Everybody has headphones with 3.5mm cables laying around. But if that were applied to other tech, we would never have moved beyond the Serial and Parallel port standards. We'd never have moved on from the original USB towards USB-C because they're the most widespread port ever used. Why change and make everybody's existing accessories obsolete?

Better audio quality will always be pure digital signal. A 3.5mm jack is a converted analogue signal. If the audio quality argument is to be made, then the winner would be Lightning Port headphones, not the 3.5mm headphone jack.

Like other tech that set the ground for future technologies, that would be impossible without the foundation tech laid before it, wireless audio has to become the standard and Apple had to start somewhere. Future personal computers will be on our wrists and on our faces. Having wires dangling out of them is just not practical and wireless audio needs to become ubiquitous first.

In the end, people are going to look back in 10 years and wonder why we ever put up with having wires hanging out of our ears and attached to the phone in our pockets. How primitive!
 
Michael Goff said:
How are they shot down? Tell me how they could have fit everything they did into the case they were using while making it waterproof.
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The iphone 6s is waterproof.
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Michael Goff said:
Yes, people have repeated the same nonsense. But in the shell they chose, and I doubt they chose the shell just to remove the headphone jack, there was no way. They made the taptic engine bigger and made the phone waterproof. That meant the barometer needed the vent that the man removed.

It has been repeated, ad nauseam, that there was a space issue. This has been said by Apple's engineers, showed off by iFixit, and commented on by multiple people in the indusry.
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His barometer works perfectly fine.
 
ipedro said:
I think it's a fun experiment and I love his videos because they show a culture so different than the one I'm used to, but this is not much different than someone making a movie about adding a floppy drive to an iMac. It would absolutely be an interesting experiment but Apple has moved beyond that tech, as they have now the 3.5mm jack — and all the others are inevitably going to follow.

The only valid argument for the 3.5mm jack is that it's in widespread use. Everybody has headphones with 3.5mm cables laying around. But if that were applied to other tech, we would never have moved beyond the Serial and Parallel port standards. We'd never have moved on from the original USB towards USB-C because they're the most widespread port ever used. Why change and make everybody's existing accessories obsolete?

Better audio quality will always be pure digital signal. A 3.5mm jack is a converted analogue signal. If the audio quality argument is to be made, then the winner would be Lightning Port headphones, not the 3.5mm headphone jack.

Like other tech that set the ground for future technologies, that would be impossible without the foundation tech laid before it, wireless audio has to become the standard and Apple had to start somewhere. Future personal computers will be on our wrists and on our faces. Having wires dangling out of them is just not practical and wireless audio needs to become ubiquitous first.

In the end, people are going to look back in 10 years and wonder why we ever put up with having wires hanging out of our ears and attached to the phone in our pockets. How primitive!
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I hope you are aware that your ears can only hear in 'analogue'. So even with a 'digital' connector like Lightning the signal has to be converted between the phone and your ears. The audio quality will be mostly influenced on the DAC/AMP side. In a nutshell: if you have a fairly good DAC/AMP like supposedly the Note 8 has, it will sound better via the 3.5 mm jack then a 'digitally' connected Earphone via the dreadful Lightning Dongle. Chances are, the earphones connected with the headphone jack on the Note 8 will stay more secured in place inside your pocket than the flat squarish Lightning connector.

Why is the 3.5 mm so widespread and has been used for ages? Because as a 'connector' it proved itself. It is fairly robust, simple and reliable. I am fairly certain that the Headphone jack will outlive the Lightning connector. If you start using the Lightning connector in a more 'dynamic' environment (For instance outdoors when flying drones), you can see how fragile they are compared to the 3.5mm jack. I am on my fifth cable 5 or 6. 4 cables showed massive abrasions on the connector.
 
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Michael Goff said:
Yes, I prefer to ask the people that made the phone.
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Haha! Asking the wolf to watch the sheeps...
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Michael Goff said:
No, the iPhone 6S is not waterproof.
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It is, I've owned one for 3 years now, dropped it in water three times, one of them was salt water. Still works fine. Best phone I've ever had, it does everything.
 
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antonis said:
That is complete nonsense. Flash was never in iOS because it was a battery-eater. Jobs himself explained that. Other than that, Apple is well known for locking things up. Who exactly is benefited by the proprietary thunderbolt connector ? Certainly not you or me as consumers. Heck, you cannot even connect an apple phone to an apple computer.

Changes are good, as long as they are done under a specific condition: they have to be better than the one they are replacing. Apple is so good of doing the opposite lately.
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I assume you are referring to lighting, since thunderbolt is neither proprietary nor does it belong solely to Apple.

Well, the consumers have benefited from lightning for 4 years prior to the rest of the world getting usb C. That’s 4 years of being able to use a connector that is sturdier, smaller, more elegant, convenient and reversible than micro USB.

And apart from the whole compatibility aspect, Lightning is arguably still better than usb C with regards to durability. Lightning is male head, female port while usb C is the reverse. That’s why you can have an iPhone stand which is essentially a lightning head engineered to support the entire weight of an iPhone.

If I want to connect my iPhone to my MacBook, there’s a usb C to lightning cable for that, though unless I want to charge my phone, everything else can be accomplished wirelessly (eg: airdrop for file transfer, Bluetooth for hotspot).

I am personally indifferent between lightning and usb C. I just don’t plug my phone in to my laptop these days.
 
Burger Thing said:
I hope for your sanity that in other aspects of life you have developed more critical thinking skills.
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This is the guy that sincerely believes the largest company in the world doesn't base every one of its decisions around the generation of profit.

I wouldn't bother mate, honestly.
 
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aylk said:
Haha! Asking the wolf to watch the sheeps...
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It is, I've owned one for 3 years now, dropped it in water three times, one of them was salt water. Still works fine. Best phone I've ever had, it does everything.
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That's water resistant.

Burger Thing said:
I hope for your sanity that in other aspects of life you have developed more critical thinking skills.
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So I should go to random people on the internet instead of industrial engineers?
 
DjanSeriyAnaplian said:
This is the guy that sincerely believes the largest company in the world doesn't base every one of its decisions around the generation of profit.

I wouldn't bother mate, honestly.
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And pray tell how that profit is generated, if not by making great products that people want to use and more importantly, are willing to pay a premium for?

You think people are going to spend over $1k on an iPhone because Apple holds a gun to their head and tells them to?
 
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Eh, modding an iPhone sounds like a very boring and annoying DIY project. Raspberry Pi is more in the spirit. Well, anyway, good job sticking it to Apple. But no thanks, I'll just use an iPhone that comes with the headphone jack already.
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Abazigal said:
And pray tell how that profit is generated, if not by making great products that people want to use and more importantly, are willing to pay a premium for?

You think people are going to spend over $1k on an iPhone because Apple holds a gun to their head and tells them to?
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Yeah, it's pretty annoying that people treat Apple's product decisions like civil rights abuses when they disagree with them.
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adnbek said:
You don't need to be "carrying" dongles (and it's one dongle, not a "bunch" as you say. And it's tiny, not "huge" as you say). You can keep the adapter plugged into your favourite pair of headphones permanently. Much simpler that carrying it separately.
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The adaptor costs like 5X as much as my earbuds, so I'm not gonna do that. And in the car, I'd use CarPlay if it didn't suck.
 
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Michael Goff said:
Except it isn't BS. Do some research, he damaged his phone.
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Seriously? The guy built it from scratch AND showed that the case can STILL HAVE room for the HP Jack. Looks like either didn't read the article or you have poor reading comprehension. "Do some research"? /:-\
 
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dan110 said:
Seriously? The guy built it from scratch AND showed that the case can STILL HAVE room for the HP Jack. Looks like either didn't read the article or you have poor reading comprehension. "Do some research"? /:-\
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Read the article and watched the video.

I like how he basically starts off saying "I don't think this is a barometrc vent" just to admit he has no clue what he's talking about.
 
sracer said:
COURAGE not COVERAGE! :eek:

You clearly missed the reference. "courage" was the reason that Apple gave for removing the headphone jack. The video attempts to add the headphone jack back and so... removing courage. :)
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Dude,
Never, ever explain your own jokes! Just accept the fact that some people get it and laugh with you, and others don't.
 
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Seriously? The guy built it from scratch AND showed that the case can STILL HAVE room for the HP Jack. Looks like either didn't read the article or you have poor reading comprehension. "Do some research"? /:-\
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And removed the barometric vent and potentially compromised the waterproofness of the phone in the process.

The move wasn’t entirely free of compromises.
 
Abazigal said:
And removed the barometric vent and potentially compromised the waterproofness of the phone in the process.

The move wasn’t entirely free of compromises.
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Guys, seriously: it was a proof of concept. Is it so hard to grasp? It could be more optimised and things could be polished a bit. He is a Dude with a few tools and some imagination. But really, are you guys not getting it at all?

But I know, he added a headphone jack and therefore the phone can't be made waterproof anymore. I am really certain about it. I read some notes from some Apple Engineers about it. Sony, Samsung and other companies are not waterproofing it correctly.

Mind-boggling. After a few years of MacRumors not surprising - but still mind boggling.

The fact that some of your are involved in an educational environment scares me. It really does.
 
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Burger Thing said:
Guys, seriously: it was a proof of concept. Is it so hard to grasp? It could be more optimised and things could be polished a bit. He is a Dude with a few tools and some imagination. But really, are you guys not getting it at all?
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I get it. There are tons of people still sore over the removal of the headphone jack and will grasp at any straw so they go “Aha! I knew it! Apple is removing the jack simply to screw with us users!”

These people are still not seeing the overall bigger picture here.
 
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