iPhone 7 Modded to Include Fully Functional 3.5mm Headphone Jack

[Burger Thing]

I get it. There are tons of people still sore over the removal of the headphone jack and will grasp at any straw so they go “Aha! I knew it! Apple is removing the jack simply to screw with us users!”

These people are still not seeing the overall bigger picture here.

No, you don't get it at all.

 

[Abazigal]

No, you don't get it at all.

Enlighten me.

I am going for a run now and look forward to what it is I am not getting when I return.

 

[Rob_2811]

You have to hand it to Apple.

There is no other company that would have sections of its user base believe that they have done this for any other reason that to boost profits from the MFI program/give themselves more control over external devices plugged into an iPhone/promote AirPods.

It never fails to amaze how much some people worship Apple and actually believe that they are making some of their decisions based on a desire to push us towards a brave new world and not purely out of a desire for greater profits/ecosystem lock in (which basically amount to the same thing anyway).

 

[wesk702]

To be consistent he should start a project to add wires to AirPods.

There already is some

 

[DjanSeriyAnaplian]

I get it. There are tons of people still sore over the removal of the headphone jack and will grasp at any straw so they go “Aha! I knew it! Apple is removing the jack simply to screw with us users!”

These people are still not seeing the overall bigger picture here.

I'm not particularly sore over the removal of the jack, as i've stated, i love my beats X. To suggest that the decision was taken for any other reason than the generation of more profit is ****ing delusional.

If you genuinely think it was a decision driven purely by "innovation" then you need your head examined. Apple have the cash and means to literally do pretty much anything (this is not hyperbole).

 

[Abazigal]

I'm not particularly sore over the removal of the jack, as i've stated, i love my beats X. To suggest that the decision was taken for any other reason than the generation of more profit is ****ing delusional.

If you genuinely think it was a decision driven purely by "innovation" then you need your head examined. Apple have the cash and means to literally do pretty much anything (this is not hyperbole).

Well, like I said earlier, Apple too had tons of critics flaming them when they blocked flash from iOS. Samsung even made advertisements highlighting how their own tablets could run flash while the iPad couldn’t. But time would go on to prove that Apple was on the right side of history.

I obviously can’t prove anything now, but mark my words for it. The “wisdom” of Apple removing the headphone jack will eventually become apparent a few years from now and we will all look back and be amazed that this matter was ever up for debate.

Are there people legitimately inconvenienced by the absence of the headphone jack? Sure. I am not saying your concerns don’t matter or that the loss doesn’t sting. I am simply saying that it will all be worth it in the end. You can either choose to embrace the change and ride it out with Apple and be there with a front row seat when Apple does usher in this new world order, or you can choose to sit it out by opting for another phone which does have a headphone jack and continue to fight and attempt to stave off the inevitable that little bit longer.

Either way, it will make no difference in the end.

 

[DjanSeriyAnaplian]

Well, like I said earlier, Apple too had tons of critics flaming them when they blocked flash from iOS. Samsung even made advertisements highlighting how their own tablets could run flash while the iPad couldn’t. But time would go on to prove that Apple was on the right side of history.

I obviously can’t prove anything now, but mark my words for it. The “wisdom” of Apple removing the headphone jack will eventually become apparent a few years from now and we will all look back and be amazed that this matter was ever up for debate.

Are there people legitimately inconvenienced by the absence of the headphone jack? Sure. I am not saying your concerns don’t matter or that the loss doesn’t sting. I am simply saying that it will all be worth it in the end. You can either choose to embrace the change and ride it out with Apple and be there with a front row seat when Apple does usher in this new world order, or you can choose to sit it out by opting for another phone which does have a headphone jack and continue to fight and attempt to stave off the inevitable that little bit longer.

Either way, it will make no difference in the end.

'the loss doesn't sting': for the, i think fifth time, i don't care. I love my wireless headphones. I am merely trying to point out that Apple is a company.

They are not trying to usher in a 'new world order'. I mean honestly, try to read back what you just typed. New world order? ****ing hell you really have drunk the cool aid.

Like i said in my earlier posts, i'm a quant, i do this for a living. If you'd like to establish a church and/or religion over it, be my guest.

 

[dannyyankou]

Cool video. About 15 minutes too long though.

 

[Abazigal]

'the loss doesn't sting': for the, i think fifth time, i don't care. I love my wireless headphones. I am merely trying to point out that Apple is a company.

They are not trying to usher in a 'new world order'. I mean honestly, try to read back what you just typed. New world order? ****ing hell you really have drunk the cool aid.

Like i said in my earlier posts, i'm a quant, i do this for a living. If you'd like to establish a church and/or religion over it, be my guest. It doesn't change the fact that you're completely retarded.

Likewise, do you honestly believe Apple risked all this backlash just to sell a few extra adaptors? Please, give them more credit than this. Yes, maybe Apple does stand to profit from this, but that is seriously secondary to the larger picture here.

The “new world order” I am referring to is a new line of wearables which will either connect wirelessly to your iPhone or Apple Watch to serve as a hub. This will require, amongst other things, reliable wireless connectivity, skill with miniaturisation and great power efficiency (because you need to eke out a day’s worth of use on a tiny battery).

You want to get people used to not having wires on them (or even hate the idea of having to contend with wires), plus the sales of wireless headphones will help boost development of the W1 chip, and their expertise with the AirPods will serve well in the development of other wearable technology.

If your job is indeed what you say it is, all I can say is that you don’t seem to be doing a very good job of analysing and understanding Apple. That’s understandable. Throughout the years, many people have attempted to write Apple off as having lost the plot, to their own chagrin.

People underestimate Apple to their own detriment.

 

[DjanSeriyAnaplian]

Likewise, do you honestly believe Apple risked all this backlash just to sell a few extra adaptors? Please, give them more credit than this. Yes, maybe Apple does stand to profit from this, but that is seriously secondary to the larger picture here.

The “new world order” I am referring to is a new line of wearables which will either connect wirelessly to your iPhone or Apple Watch to serve as a hub. This will require, amongst other things, reliable wireless connectivity, skill with miniaturisation and great power efficiency (because you need to eke out a day’s worth of use on a tiny battery).

You want to get people used to not having wires on them (or even hate the idea of having to contend with wires), plus the sales of wireless headphones will help boost development of the W1 chip, and their expertise with the AirPods will serve well in the development of other wearable technology.

If your job is indeed what you say it is, all I can say is that you don’t seem to be doing a very good job of analysing and understanding Apple. That’s understandable. Throughout the years, many people have attempted to write Apple off as having lost the plot, to their own chagrin.

People underestimate Apple to their own detriment.

Yeh, you clearly haven't read my previous posts. Everything you're saying supports what i've been saying. The decision will be but a small component that is part of a (normally) ten-year business plan to maximise profit. You're literally agreeing with what i'm saying, but you're doing it through this very odd lens that seems to be borderline deifying Apple.

I find that weird, to be frank i find a lot of you weird. They're a company that is the very best in the world at generating profit; not a religion and not some messianic creator of tech that guides civilisation.

oh edit: i just received a message that i am apparently insulting other forum members. Is the echo chamber really that bad here? Genuine question.

 

[aylk]

I get it. There are tons of people still sore over the removal of the headphone jack and will grasp at any straw so they go “Aha! I knew it! Apple is removing the jack simply to screw with us users!”

These people are still not seeing the overall bigger picture here.

Which is?
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Likewise, do you honestly believe Apple risked all this backlash just to sell a few extra adaptors? Please, give them more credit than this. Yes, maybe Apple does stand to profit from this, but that is seriously secondary to the larger picture here.

The “new world order” I am referring to is a new line of wearables which will either connect wirelessly to your iPhone or Apple Watch to serve as a hub. This will require, amongst other things, reliable wireless connectivity, skill with miniaturisation and great power efficiency (because you need to eke out a day’s worth of use on a tiny battery).

You want to get people used to not having wires on them (or even hate the idea of having to contend with wires), plus the sales of wireless headphones will help boost development of the W1 chip, and their expertise with the AirPods will serve well in the development of other wearable technology.

If your job is indeed what you say it is, all I can say is that you don’t seem to be doing a very good job of analysing and understanding Apple. That’s understandable. Throughout the years, many people have attempted to write Apple off as having lost the plot, to their own chagrin.

People underestimate Apple to their own detriment.

Would these Bluetooth devices be compatible with the iPhone 6s? Cause currently on my 6s I wear wireless when I want, and wires when I need. They do not get money when I make that choice though. With the iPhone 7 on the other hand... cash flows all the time baby!

 

[Abazigal]

Yeh, you clearly haven't read my previous posts. Everything you're saying supports what i've been saying. The decision will be but a small component that is part of a (normally) ten-year business plan to maximise profit. You're literally agreeing with what i'm saying, but you're doing it through this very odd lens that seems to be borderline deifying Apple.

I find that weird, to be frank i find a lot of you weird. They're a company that is the very best in the world at generating profit; not a religion and not some messianic creator of tech that guides civilisation.

oh edit: i just received a message that i am apparently insulting other forum members. Is the echo chamber really that bad here? Genuine question.

Not really. I have received a few warnings myself.

I won’t call this place an echo chamber. I don’t always agree with the atmosphere of the place, but the mods have done an excellent job of keeping the peace. The moderators here are fair and impartial over everything else. They will call you out over inappropriate behaviour, regardless of whether you are speaking out in favour of Apple or against.

 

[oplix]

he did it just to prove apple was ********ting and steering the industry for other reasons

 

[Abazigal]

Yeh, you clearly haven't read my previous posts. Everything you're saying supports what i've been saying. The decision will be but a small component that is part of a (normally) ten-year business plan to maximise profit. You're literally agreeing with what i'm saying, but you're doing it through this very odd lens that seems to be borderline deifying Apple.

I find that weird, to be frank i find a lot of you weird. They're a company that is the very best in the world at generating profit; not a religion and not some messianic creator of tech that guides civilisation.

oh edit: i just received a message that i am apparently insulting other forum members. Is the echo chamber really that bad here? Genuine question.

I have gone back and read your first few responses. It seems that we are more or less on the same page with regards to what Apple is doing. What we disagree is their motivations.

You peg their actions as solely (and cynically) profit-motivated. Apple is using its resources and influence to create a walled ecosystem where only they may prosper.

I don’t disagree, but I would argue that this walled ecosystem is merely a by-product of Apple’s chief motivation for wanting to do the things that they do.

I feel that Apple is, above everything else, a design company first and foremost. Their product design decisions are driven by their vision of how the world ought to be. Right or wrong, reasonable or otherwise, it is this conviction which spurs them to design their products the way they do.

Once again, I bring you back to the flash scenario. Apple was a way smaller company back then, flash was at the peak of its popularity, and Apple had everything to lose by not supporting a popular standard. But they blocked flash from iOS nevertheless because they believed it would make for a better user experience in the end, and stuck to their guns despite all the vitriol and criticism they received.

Why else would Apple take such a risk, if not because they believed. Such conviction goes beyond mere dollars and cents, and they believed enough that what they were doing was right that they were willing to bear whatever consequences might come their way.

It was the case back then, it’s still the case now with the headphone jack, with usb C on the new MacBooks, and whatever standard Apple might decide to wage war on in the future. Apple doesn’t set out to deliberately kill standards. It’s just incidental to them wanting to make great products (according to their vision). And their vision is one of people interacting with their devices without the need for wires. Hence the death of the headphone jack.

I contrast this with another company like Samsung, who by their very own admission, is driven by their desire to beat Apple, not to make (what they believe are) the best products. By focusing so much on Apple, Samsung is never able to truly be themselves. And so you see the difference in design philosophies behind their products.

 

[amolediphone]

I've just welded 2 steel bars to the side of my car, so my horse can pull it along.

I watched both of his videos, yesterday. I was astounded that he spent SO many months in China, just to make that thing... wow... too much free time and all that.

 

[DjanSeriyAnaplian]

I have gone back and read your first few responses. It seems that we are more or less on the same page with regards to what Apple is doing. What we disagree is their motivations.

You peg their actions as solely (and cynically) profit-motivated. Apple is using its resources and influence to create a walled ecosystem where only they may prosper.

I don’t disagree, but I would argue that this walled ecosystem is merely a by-product of Apple’s chief motivation for wanting to do the things that they do.

I feel that Apple is, above everything else, a design company first and foremost. Their product design decisions are driven by their vision of how the world ought to be. Right or wrong, reasonable or otherwise, it is this conviction which spurs them to design their products the way they do.

Once again, I bring you back to the flash scenario. Apple was a way smaller company back then, flash was at the peak of its popularity, and Apple had everything to lose by not supporting a popular standard. But they blocked flash from iOS nevertheless because they believed it would make for a better user experience in the end, and stuck to their guns despite all the vitriol and criticism they received.

Why else would Apple take such a risk, if not because they believed. Such conviction goes beyond mere dollars and cents, and they believed enough that what they were doing was right that they were willing to bear whatever consequences might come their way.

It was the case back then, it’s still the case now with the headphone jack, with usb C on the new MacBooks, and whatever standard Apple might decide to wage war on in the future. Apple doesn’t set out to deliberately kill standards. It’s just incidental to them wanting to make great products (according to their vision). And their vision is one of people interacting with their devices without the need for wires. Hence the death of the headphone jack.

I contrast this with another company like Samsung, who by their very own admission, is driven by their desire to beat Apple, not to make (what they believe are) the best products. By focusing so much on Apple, Samsung is never able to truly be themselves. And so you see the difference in design philosophies behind their products.

Apple is a company, it's designed to ultimately realise maximum profit. How it goes about that is incidental, that's just how business works. Apple is no different and there will almost certainly be a larger and more successful iteration of it in the next 100 years.

I posit that their vision is profit. Honestly they don't design products to enrich people's lives, they do it to maximise return. That the two may interact and compliment each other is simply part of their (extremely clever and complex) business plan.

Eh, let's just agree to disagree.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

Who is the iPhone GUY?

 

[antonis]

I assume you are referring to lighting, since thunderbolt is neither proprietary nor does it belong solely to Apple.

Well, the consumers have benefited from lightning for 4 years prior to the rest of the world getting usb C. That’s 4 years of being able to use a connector that is sturdier, smaller, more elegant, convenient and reversible than micro USB.

And apart from the whole compatibility aspect, Lightning is arguably still better than usb C with regards to durability. Lightning is male head, female port while usb C is the reverse. That’s why you can have an iPhone stand which is essentially a lightning head engineered to support the entire weight of an iPhone.

If I want to connect my iPhone to my MacBook, there’s a usb C to lightning cable for that, though unless I want to charge my phone, everything else can be accomplished wirelessly (eg: airdrop for file transfer, Bluetooth for hotspot).

I am personally indifferent between lightning and usb C. I just don’t plug my phone in to my laptop these days.

Yes, sorry, I was indeed referring to the lightning. The thunderbolt port is of course the next standard and probably the one port to rule them all, coming 2018.


Well, it always takes a lot of words to justify apple's bad choices, and an excessive usage of the word "I" (as "I am fine with this", "I am not bothered by it", "I don't use it much" etc). However, the bottom line is that a proprietary choice is always bad for consumers, it has always been like that, so unless someone is apple shareholder, it's not a smart thing to applause for it. For instance, you can't just say "And apart from the whole compatibility aspect(...)". The fact that we're using apple products should not mean that we should be cut out from the rest of the world, and - even worse - feel good about it.

Regarding the benefits of this port and the durability myth, is there really anyone left that actually believes this guy in 2017 ?

 

[Rob_2811]

Yes, sorry, I was indeed referring to the lightning. The thunderbolt port is of course the next standard and probably the one port to rule them all, coming 2018.


Well, it always takes a lot of words to justify apple's bad choices, and an excessive usage of the word "I" (as "I am fine with this", "I am not bothered by it", "I don't use it much" etc). However, the bottom line is that a proprietary choice is always bad for consumers, it has always been like that, so unless someone is apple shareholder, it's not a smart thing to applause for it. For instance, you can't just say "And apart from the whole compatibility aspect(...)". The fact that we're using apple products should not mean that we should be cut out from the rest of the world, and - even worse - feel good about it.

Regarding the benefits of this port and the durability myth, is there really anyone left that actually believes this guy in 2017 ?

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I don't remember seeing that at the time. Was that from the iPhone 7 keynote or when they introduced Lightning? Did they seriously try to claim that lighting is more durable. Unbelievable ..
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I have gone back and read your first few responses. It seems that we are more or less on the same page with regards to what Apple is doing. What we disagree is their motivations.

You peg their actions as solely (and cynically) profit-motivated. Apple is using its resources and influence to create a walled ecosystem where only they may prosper.

I don’t disagree, but I would argue that this walled ecosystem is merely a by-product of Apple’s chief motivation for wanting to do the things that they do.

I feel that Apple is, above everything else, a design company first and foremost. Their product design decisions are driven by their vision of how the world ought to be. Right or wrong, reasonable or otherwise, it is this conviction which spurs them to design their products the way they do.

Once again, I bring you back to the flash scenario. Apple was a way smaller company back then, flash was at the peak of its popularity, and Apple had everything to lose by not supporting a popular standard. But they blocked flash from iOS nevertheless because they believed it would make for a better user experience in the end, and stuck to their guns despite all the vitriol and criticism they received.

Why else would Apple take such a risk, if not because they believed. Such conviction goes beyond mere dollars and cents, and they believed enough that what they were doing was right that they were willing to bear whatever consequences might come their way.

It was the case back then, it’s still the case now with the headphone jack, with usb C on the new MacBooks, and whatever standard Apple might decide to wage war on in the future. Apple doesn’t set out to deliberately kill standards. It’s just incidental to them wanting to make great products (according to their vision). And their vision is one of people interacting with their devices without the need for wires. Hence the death of the headphone jack.

I contrast this with another company like Samsung, who by their very own admission, is driven by their desire to beat Apple, not to make (what they believe are) the best products. By focusing so much on Apple, Samsung is never able to truly be themselves. And so you see the difference in design philosophies behind their products.

The problem with your argument is that the bold bit is provably untrue.

There have been internal Apple memos that were made public during the Apple - Samsung lawsuit from before Steve Jobs death where agenda points had been set for meetings where they would discuss how to increase eco system lock in. So no it isn't a by product of their vision it is deliberate strategy and more than likely one that is profit driven.

Relevant parts re ecosystem in bold ...

1. 2011 Strategy – SJ
– who are we?
– headcount, average age, …
– VP count, senior promotions in last year
– percent new membership at this meeting
– what do we do?
– pie chart of units/product line and revenues/product line
– same charts with tablets + phones merged together
– Post PC era- Apple is the first company to get here
– Post PC products now 66% of our revenues
– iPad outsold Mac within 6 months
– Post PC era = more mobile (smaller, thinner, lighter) + communications + apps + cloud services
– 2011: Holy War with Google
– all the ways we will compete with them
– primary reason for this Top 100 meeting
– you will hear about what we’re doing in each presentation
– 2011: Year of the Cloud
– we invented Digital Hub concept
– PC as hub for all your digital assets
– contacts, calendars, bookmarks, photos, music, videos
– digital hub (center of our universe) is moving from PC to cloud
– PC now just another client alongside iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, …
– Apple is in danger of hanging on to old paradigm too long (innovator’s dilemma)
– Google and Microsoft are further along on the technology, but haven’t quite figured it out yet
– tie all of our products together, so we further lock customers into our ecosystem
– 2015: new campus

2. State of the Company
– Peter & Tim
– FY2010 recap
– FY2011 plan
– where is our business
– geo analysis (NA, Euro, Japan, Asia, possibly break out china) (present on map)
– key milestones, trends & future goals
– comparisons with Google, Samsung, HTC, Motorola & RIM3. iPhone
– Joz & Bob
– 2011 Strategy:
– “plus” iPhone 4 with better antenna, processor, camera & software to stay ahead of competitors until mid 2012
– have LTE version in mid-2012
– create low cost iPhone model based on iPod touch to replace 3GS
– Business & competitive update
– show Droid and RIM ads
– Verizon iPhone
– schedule, marketing, …
– iPhone 5 hardware
– H4 performance
– new antenna design, etc
– new camera
– schedule
– [CONFIDENTIAL]
– cost goal
– show model (and/or renderings)
– Jony

4. iPad – Bob, Jony, Dan Riccio, Michael Tchao ,Randy Ubillos, Xander Soren, Roger Rosner
– 2011 Strategy: ship iPad 2 with amazing hardware and software before our competitors even catch up with our current model
– Business & competitive update – Michael
– Apps, corporate adoption, …
– show Samsung, HP(?) anf iPad ads
– 2011 Product Roadmap
– Bob, Dan & Jony
– iPad 2
– new ID, H4, UMTS + Verizon in one model, cameras, …
– EVT units & cases
– HDMI dongle (use for projection of demos below?)
– iPad 3
– display, H4T
– DEMOS:- PhotoBooth (Michael?)
– iMovie (Randy)
– GarageBand (Xander)
– text book authoring system (Roger)
– working display for iPad 3 (during break)

———-

5. iOS – Scott, Joz
– Strategy: catch up to Android where we are behind (notifications, tethering, speech, …) and leapfrog them (Siri, …)
– Timeline of iOS releases from first until Telluride, including Verizon
– Jasper tent poles
– Durango tent poles (without MobileMe)
– Telluride tent poles (with “catch up” and “leapfrog” notations on each one)
– DEMOS:
– Jasper: AirPlay to AppleTV – video from iPad, photos from iPhone, ??
– Durango: ?? (without MobileMe features)
– Telluride: Siri, ?

6. MobileMe – Cue, SJ, Roger Rosner
– Strategy: catch up to Google cloud services and leapfrog them (Photo Stream, cloud storage)
– Android
– deeply integrates Google cloud services
– way ahead of Apple in cloud services for contacts, calendars, mail
– 2011
– Apple’s year of the cloud
– tie all of our products together
– make Apple ecosystem even more sticky
– Free MobileMe for iPhone 4, iPad and new iPod touch
– Jasper – Sign up with Apple ID, Find My iPhone
– Durango
– Find My Friends, Calendar, Contacts, Bookmarks, Photo Stream
– April
– iWork cloud storage
– Telluride
– cloud storage for third party apps
– iOS backup
– new iDisk for Mac
– Growth
– projected growth, cost/user
– plan to scale to 100 million users
– transition plan for paid members
– what about email?
– DEMOS:
– Find My Friends
– Calendar
– Photo Stream
– iWork cloud storage (Roger Rosner)

7. Mac
– David Moody, Bob, Craig Federigi, Randy Ubilos & ?
– Hardware roadmap
– Lion plan
– Mac App Store
– Final Cut Pro DEMO (Randy & ?)

8. Apple TV 2- David Moody, Jeff Robbin
– Strategy: stay in the living room game and make a great “must have” accessory for iOS devices
– sales so far, projections for this holiday season
– add content:- NBC, CBS, Viacom, HBO, …
– TV subscription?
– where do we go from here?
– apps, browser, magic wand?

———-

9. Stores Update – Eddy, Patrice
– Music
– Strategy: Leap even further ahead of Google in music
– Beatles
– iTunes in the cloud
– App Store
– Strategy: Leap even further ahead of Google in discovering great new iOS apps

10. iAds Update – Andy Miller

11. Retail Update – Ron Johnson

From here

 

[antonis]

I don't remember seeing that at the time. Was that from the iPhone 7 keynote or when they introduced Lightning? Did they seriously try to claim that lighting is more durable. Unbelievable ..

It's from 2014, when they initially introduced lightning port, full of poor excuses as to why they had to go again with a proprietary, unsupported port.

But I wonder...fast forward in 2017, if lightning port is better than usb-c regarding durability (actually, it has to be so much better that deserves sacrificing the compatibility with the rest of the world), does this mean that the entire mac laptop line having only usb-c is at risk ?

 

[Mac 128]

It's from 2014, when they initially introduced lightning port, full of poor excuses as to why they had to go again with a proprietary, unsupported port.

But I wonder...fast forward in 2017, if lightning port is better than usb-c regarding durability (actually, it has to be so much better that deserves sacrificing the compatibility with the rest of the world), does this mean that the entire mac laptop line having only usb-c is at risk ?

I've never used a more reliable connector than Lightning in my life. USB-C has definite design concerns. But it is fast becoming the computer standard, so can't be ignored. Mobile is a whole different ballgame, with completely different needs.

 

[Michael Goff]

So, I'm going to ask the question about listening to music while charging. If we can't do that with this, then what was the point of damaging the phone?

 

[nia820]

A year later and I'm still pissed they removed the headphone jack. They did it just to sell airpods. Sneaky jokers.
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That's like me modding my 2017 MacBook with a CD drive.

You can't be serious. 3.5mm headphones are still very much relevant. Not only that, other devices and accessories use the 3.5mm (like selfie sticks). CD is not relevant.

 

[Rob_2811]

A year later and I'm still pissed they removed the headphone jack. They did it just to sell airpods. Sneaky jokers.
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You can't be serious. 3.5mm headphones are still very much relevant. Not only that, other devices and accessories use the 3.5mm (like selfie sticks). CD is not relevant.

Including everything Apple has released since the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus with the exception being the AirPods and Watch Series 2.

 

[Burger Thing]

Funny story at The Verge about someone's dongle life. Hail the future, when the 'foremost a design company', decides to make people's life easier