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I understand why he did it, but, the end result just wasn't particularly appealing. There's no real/actual benefit here. Now, if he was able to charge AND use a headphone at the same time, then he's added something. But, there are Y cables available right now that are able to do just that.

I admire his tenacity and his creativity, but, it's just not that amazing.. He's ruined the water proofing and/or the barometer for the ability to not have a dongle attached to his favorite pair of headphones. Or, you know, just use Bluetooth.

There is benefit to him, obviously. Not everyone has the same needs or use case. I think you're still missing the point of the video, it is not to say "you should do this or I did it because I had to"... he did it because he wanted to see if it COULD be done, that's it. Yes you can use this or that, yes he ruined the water resistance (there is no waterproofing here). Who cares though? It's his device .. it's not yours, it's not mine. The video was neat from a technical point of view.
 
That's awesome! Best article and video I've seen on MR yet. He's transformed from a software developer to an electrical and mechanical engineer in the months after his last DIY iPhone video.
 
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Your headphones DO NOT last a week per charge with frequent use. I rather just plug them in and go.

You do realize you're being pretty arrogant with your mentality that wired headphones have no place, right? Nobody cared for the existence of bluetooth on phones, but now all of a sudden a headphone jack is a big deal to you? What phone on the market took away bluetooth just to have a 3.5mm jack?

Which begs the question; why do you care if the headphone jack is there or not? You're not forced to use it.

Just gonna chime in here... I only plug my AirPods in about once a week as well.

With ~24 hours of playback, I could listen to them for nearly 5 hours every day Monday - Friday if I wanted to.

I don't listen to them that much each day though, so they last well into the weekend and sometimes all the way through Monday of the next week.

Carry on.
 
If I pay close to £1000 for a device I would prefer it didn’t have an ancient technology in it, only what I need and the latest. Meaning that space it is used for something I don’t need, better be used for something that I find useful. I do realise people still love to listen through wires, fair enough. There will always be people who also listen vinyl. That just isn’t me.

You on the other hand are not forced to buy a device that have no headphone jack.

LOL @ 'ancient' comment... just so wrong. You're pushing a narrative that didn't exist until Apple was dumb enough to remove the jack and all of a sudden you now have this opinion. Incredible.

Your attitude is pretty insulting. I suggest you try to come to terms with the fact that not everyone is going to do things exactly like you. Right now you're stuck in your own bubble.... or Apple's bubble, really; their way or the high way.
 
That being said I'd be hard pressed to believe that anyone that truly cares about sound quality is listening to music on their iPhone and caring about the quality. If you care about sound quality you're listening to music on expensive cans with a good pre-amp on something other than your phone. In most situations youre going to find yourself listening to music on an iPhone sound quality isnt going to be much of a consideration because the background noise will be too much to get good sound quality.

This is ridiculous -- press harder. iPhones can play lossless audio files (shouts to Flacbox). iPhones (at least those with headphone jacks) can be used with expensive cans and pre-amps. It's an audio source, and a ubiquitous one. What, you think everyone who cares about good sound quality carries around a separate dedicated (apparently non-Apple?) music player?

I care about music and sound quality and listen to music exclusively on my iPhone (still have a 6). I have expensive Bluetooth headphones and only use them to exercise because they sound a lot worse than my expensive wired headphones (and the Bluetooth connection also craps out/has frequent interference, both in my car and with those headphones). Don't pretend that there aren't iPhone users that care about sound quality (or being able to listen to music with wired headphones while simultaneously charging your phone without needing an aftermarket dongle). It's a niche -- which is why Apple chose to press forward with this strategy for many reasons (accessory sales among them) even if it would anger some people. And this mod is pretty silly. But it's a real problem, and I would switch when upgrading my phone this year over it if I weren't so deeply invested in Apple's walled garden.
 
How is it silly? It's obvious that a huge number of people still want the headphone jack. This wasn't about upgrading an iPhone 7 to make it perform better, it was about bringing a basic feature back that was very useful to many.
Define huge? From my understanding they only saw a 1% drop in sales over the year, unless I misunderstood their earnings report. This is similar to previous churn so I am not sure the headphone jack is that impactful.

Also, My finding humor in the effort should only be taken as an opinionated chuckle. The tech guy in me appreciates the effort / engineering to make it happen, but I still find it humorous that one would invest so much time and money into something so trivial (again my opinion).

As an aside, Being a classic guy, I still miss the 30 pin Dock connector with dedicated audio pins. But, it was time to move on back then, and that is a different debate. ;) .
 
Dear Allen,

Thanks for proving what we all knew all along. The excuses they gave about making room and water proofing were all total BS. It was all about making money off of BT headphones/earpieces.

I hope Apple is listening.

Except it isn't BS. Do some research, he damaged his phone.
 
Approaching 200 posts with this, obviously hit a nerve :p. I'm still disappointed with the loss of the audio jack. There have been a few times when I've wanted to listen to a podcast with my earpods and charge the phone at the same time. I haven't seen very well designed adapters for this use case, anyone here have?

Except, he apparently didn't enable the ability to charge and listen at the same time. He seemingly just eliminated the dongle. So in order to charge and listen at the same time, you'll presumably still need a dongle, or multiple dongles to that. Now if he got all the electronics form inside that Belkin Dongle, plus the 3.5mm headphone jack, then maybe he would have accomplished something useful here ...
 
The presence of a headphone jack socket doesn't affect people who choose perceived ease of use. However, it does affect people who choose better sound quality.

I agree, but look at what every thread about Apple removing the phono devolves down to: Apple removing the jack isn't a big deal and/or you can just buy an adapter and I prefer wireless anyway, which ignores the fact that if they kept the phono jack then everyone who wanted to could still use AirPods (or whatever brand) with no loss of quality or features or convenience and for people who care about sound quality or can't justify the cost or can't recharge their BT earphones but could run down to a local shop and buy wired or plug their iPhone using the phono jack to play music at someone else's house or already have expensive headphones that work with all of their other devices including the most recent iPads, MacBooks and iMacs plus anything else that they are likely to own shouldn't have to gerrymander things just to use them.

Because the BT option loses nothing if there is a phono jack, and everyone else does if there isn't.

And don't give me the 'waterproof' statement. Lots of other phones have equal or better IP rating AND a phono jack.

The sound isn't as good.
The cost ranges from higher to much higher.
The universality with other components, even their own, isn't there.

Edit: Their, they're, there.
 
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I'd buy it. I use the headphone jack every day on my iPhone 6 and won't upgrade it until it eventually dies a death and I'm forced to replace it with something else.
Same here. I went from the 6s plus to the SE and fortunately I love it. I don't think they will be pulling the headphone jack from the SE anytime soon so I can probably keep upgrading SE models as they come out.
 
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I'll have you know that picking my nose is not a worthless venture.

to quote the famous philosopher, Stimpy... "Those are my nose goblins... I picked them myself!"
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the 3.5 MM jack is the standard analogue audio output port for just about every single piece of audio equipment in the world. Not just mobile technology devices like smartphones, but everything from home stereo units to studio producers. The 3.5 mm audio jack has been around for decades because it's still the simplest, easiest and most effective way of getting analogue audio signals to our brains. With an Analogue audio jack like the 3.5mm jack, speakers and headphones can be nothing more than simple wires with speakers on the other end. They don't require additional / complex circuitry in the cabing or headset.

if you go anywhere in the world. If the device produces audio, there's likely a 3.5mm jack somewhere on it. This is true from anything produced from the 1980's till today.

Apple dropping the headphone jack is an exception to this. That doesn't suddenly make them "Forward thinking" because they didn't actually replace the technology with something equal or better. They just completely cut out the analogue audio jack and expect everyone to use work-arounds (Adapter or forced switch to bluetooth) as a solution. When in reality, there was 0 reason for Apple to remove the jack.

Nope. Most studio/pro gear uses 1/4 inch stereo out not 1/8 inch 3.5mm. And connections between devices are more likely XLR connections.
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Dear Allen,

Thanks for proving what we all knew all along. The excuses they gave about making room and water proofing were all total BS. It was all about making money off of BT headphones/earpieces.

I hope Apple is listening.

How did he disprove waterproofing again?
 
The sound quality is still superior to wireless headphones.... and they never need to be charged. And they cost way less.
The sound quality has nothing to do with them being wireless or not. It only depends on the quality of the DAC in the electronics. So, if you buy cheap headphones you get ****** sound. But if you buy wireless headphones with better DAC than in the phone, you will get better sound, now at least you have a choice.
 
I don't get it, this is 2017, everyone walks around with a lollipop in their mouths. The headphone jack is old technology, having a lollipop in your mouth is the future. They had to remove the jack, otherwise, I wouldn't have this lollipop in my mouth. To be honest, after trying it a couple of times it's not so bad, I keep it in my mouth while exercising, running, going to work, only for casual activities, I don't care about high fidelity sound, I just want convenience. I know I could've tasted this "lollipop" before, actually since the first iPhone came out, but it wasn't until Apple forced it into my mouth that I got to try it. And for that, I'm grateful.
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The sound quality has nothing to do with them being wireless or not. It only depends on the quality of the DAC in the electronics. So, if you buy cheap headphones you get ****** sound. But if you buy wireless headphones with better DAC than in the phone, you will get better sound, now at least you have a choice.

Not true, Bluetooth will always compress a lossless stream.
 
I guess you didn't try the AirPods - there is no going back after that
No because I have one odd shaped ear and none of the buds fit in that ear. Not to mention I find them God-Awful ugly. I use BT headphones for some activities but for sleeping I use a cheap ($10 or so) wired headphone that can get broken at will and not cost a fortune to replace.
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I also wonder about how water proof the phone would be with this jack? and what other mods would need to be done.

If he did it right it would be plenty waterproof. The 2014 Galaxy S5 had IP67 waterproofing (1 meter for 30 mins) with a headphone jack....
 
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Pretty cool that he could pull this off.
I'm guessing the switch to lightning headphones is more about "consumer training" than about actual physical need in the iPhone 7. I'm guessing the iPhone 8 will be thinner if not the iPhone 9 where the lightning headphone will become necessary. Or another way to look at it, it's a staggered roll out of new features that go in a new direction for the iPhone, but instead of overwhelming everyone with all the changes at once, roll it out so 3rd party accessories can keep up and maintain profitability.
 
Define huge? From my understanding they only saw a 1% drop in sales over the year, unless I misunderstood their earnings report. This is similar to previous churn so I am not sure the headphone jack is that impactful.
That's not a good metric to use. There are a variety of factors such as investment in the ecosystem that made buying a jackless iphone an "involuntary" (for lack of a better word) purchase.

A better test would be to offer identical model iPhones with identical pricing with the only difference being the inclusion of a headphone jack. THOSE sales numbers would be interesting.
 
"switches between connecting the headphone adapter to the phone by default, and then disconnecting it and connecting the lightning jack when something is plugged into it."

So after all that time and effort, he still can't charge the phone and listen to music at the same time same those of us who use lighting adapter outside the phone. HAHAHAHAHAHAH LMAO.
 
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