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I honestly think people were just fatigued by the same design for 4 years. It doesn't even matter how fast the 8 is, and wireless charging isn't a wow factor. Plus the cloud over the release of the 8 because of the X.
 
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I think they knew iPhone X is not for everyone but there would be people who’d like to upgrade this year. That’s where 8 fits in. I’m sure they didn’t expect a overwhelming number for the 8 and 8 plus.
 
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Simple, the price is much cheaper, and the iPhone 8 does not have many new features over the 7.

If you want wireless charging, sure get the 8, but other then that and a slightly improved camera or CPU, the 7 is a better buy.
I agree. If I still had the 7 and had no option to upgrade to an X I would pick the 7 every time.
 
The iPhone 8 is not much more expensive but is much more capable with the bionic processor technology, graphics performance, huge camera improvements, better display, more battery life, refined design, etc.

So cheap out if you want. But don't moan when your iPhone 7 slows down next year as Apple targets iOS 12 towards taking advantage of all this awesome new hardware in the latest and greatest iPhones. You really want to get on board the bionic processor train ASAP.
 
The iPhone 8 is not much more expensive but is much more capable with the bionic processor technology, graphics performance, huge camera improvements, better display, more battery life, refined design, etc.

So cheap out if you want. But don't moan when your iPhone 7 slows down next year as Apple targets iOS 12 towards taking advantage of all this awesome new hardware in the latest and greatest iPhones. You really want to get on board the bionic processor train ASAP.


They said the same thing about the force touch with the 6S.

One day maybe it'll be useful?
 
They said the same thing about the force touch with the 6S.

One day maybe it'll be useful?

It will be useful. This isn't behavior that requires a shift in consumer habits.

The bionic processor and improved graphics processing is something Apple can silently do in software. It will be heavily utilised as iOS marches forward. People on older hardware will feel the pain of being without it.
 
8 still fits the bill for 'safe players' but full credit to Apple for giving consumers the choice here!

Else we would never know how exhausted people are with paying more for the same old design!!
 
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Simple, the price is much cheaper, and the iPhone 8 does not have many new features over the 7.

If you want wireless charging, sure get the 8, but other then that and a slightly improved camera or CPU, the 7 is a better buy.

Yeah I've heard that.

For me though the 7 Plus wasn't worth it last year coming from the 6s Plus. Since there was no X Plus option this year I went with the 8 Plus over saving a few dollars with the 7 Plus.

The hardware bump was worth paying a few extra dollars per month on my 0% Verizon payment not to mention the resale value next year. Assuming I upgrade to the X Plus, a 1 year old 8 Plus will fetch more dollars than a 2 year old 7 Plus.
 
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Because 7 is so METAL! Rock on, dudes!

And it's cheaper. Most iPhones sell the best the following year they are released once the price has gone down or when carriers start to offer many discounts and trade-in promos.

The 2015's iPhone 6s was the best-selling phone of 2016.
 
Simple, the price is much cheaper, and the iPhone 8 does not have many new features over the 7.

If you want wireless charging, sure get the 8, but other then that and a slightly improved camera or CPU, the 7 is a better buy.

How much cheaper is a 7 over an 8? $50? Anyone that needs more than 32 gigs is going to be forced to spend $650 for the 128 gig even if a 64 gig would've been plenty; sure storage is double for 50 bucks less but it's classic Apple upselling you and most people buying a 7 could probably get by with a non-existent 64 gigs, but are forced into a 128 gig model and only saving $50 over the 8. Seems like saving $50 on the front end only costs you on the backend when support is dropped for the 7 a year earlier. Or if you sell it before support is dropped, it's correspondingly worth less on the back end since you paid less up front. At that point you may as well just get the 8 since you aren't really spending much more keeping a 7 or an 8 for two years and then selling it. Pay more up front, get more on the back end which basically makes it a wash to buy the 7 or the 8.

Personally I just cant get on board with still shelling out $700 with tax for a phone that's been out for 15 months already. With Apple, I feel it's much better to get the newest, and get it when it's a fresh release to maximize your dollars on the purchase (e.g. no point in buying a Macbook Pro that was released 9 months ago for the same price as 9 months prior).

The iPhone 8 is not much more expensive but is much more capable with the bionic processor technology, graphics performance, huge camera improvements, better display, more battery life, refined design, etc.

So cheap out if you want. But don't moan when your iPhone 7 slows down next year as Apple targets iOS 12 towards taking advantage of all this awesome new hardware in the latest and greatest iPhones. You really want to get on board the bionic processor train ASAP.

I'm not as enthusiastic about the processor as you, but yes, the 8 will outlast the 7.

Honestly I've always scratched my head wondering why anyone bought a 7, between the 6/6S/7/8, the 7 was the lamest upgrade. The 8 is a really, really, really nice upgrade over a 7, if for nothing else than the glass body, let alone processor, camera, GPU, wireless charging (not a gimmick, use it every single night), etc. etc. The 8 is one hell of a phone and will have longevity like the iPad 4.
 
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https://9to5mac.com/2017/11/09/iphone-7-iphone-8-plus-sales-shipments/

I’m guessing iPhone 7 outsold the iPhone 8 because the iPhone 8 is overpriced.
It's also comparing three complete months of iPhone 7 sales with only a week and a half of iPhone 8 sales (two and a half weeks if you include pre-orders).

On the earnings call on the 2nd November Tim Cook said "In the last week and a half of September, we began shipping iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus to customers in more than 50 countries. They instantly became our two most popular iPhone models, and have been every week since then." which means they've actually been outselling the iPhone 7 and 7S since the day they went on sale.
 
My feeling is that the 7 is the better value. The 8 really didn't add a whole lot and it's the same tired design. If you prefer Touch ID and the home button and don't care about the X features, then the 7 is a really good deal. Comparable performance, still a great camera, looks exactly the same. You miss out on wireless charging, but that's about it.
 
It's also comparing three complete months of iPhone 7 sales with only a week and a half of iPhone 8 sales (two and a half weeks if you include pre-orders).

On the earnings call on the 2nd November Tim Cook said "In the last week and a half of September, we began shipping iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus to customers in more than 50 countries. They instantly became our two most popular iPhone models, and have been every week since then." which means they've actually been outselling the iPhone 7 and 7S since the day they went on sale.
It will be interesting to see if they sustain that pattern (even excluding the X) for the next year or so!
 
I had to make this decision in October between 7+ and 8+. Since I don't need much storage the entry price for an 8+ was around 900€ while I can easily get a 7+ for something between 600 and 700, brand new. Easy choice to get the 7+, especially because the color options are much better.
 
The iPhone 8 is not much more expensive but is much more capable with the bionic processor technology, graphics performance, huge camera improvements, better display, more battery life, refined design, etc.

So cheap out if you want. But don't moan when your iPhone 7 slows down next year as Apple targets iOS 12 towards taking advantage of all this awesome new hardware in the latest and greatest iPhones. You really want to get on board the bionic processor train ASAP.

Your awesome Bionic is only 25% faster than a 7. This comes from Apple's own keynote. If the 7 runs like crap, the 8 is going to be right behind it.
 
Yeah I've heard that.

For me though the 7 Plus wasn't worth it last year coming from the 6s Plus. Since there was no X Plus option this year I went with the 8 Plus over saving a few dollars with the 7 Plus.

The hardware bump was worth paying a few extra dollars per month on my 0% Verizon payment not to mention the resale value next year. Assuming I upgrade to the X Plus, a 1 year old 8 Plus will fetch more dollars than a 2 year old 7 Plus.

I disagree a little. I just bought a used 128GB 7 with AppleCare for $500. Next year I can probably sell it for $350, so a $150 loss.

If I bought a new 8 this year, it would cost $850 plus tax just for the 256GB model and no AppleCare. I can sell it next year for $500. That is a $350 loss.
 
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8 has a more fragile back than 7 which is metal. I am considering returning my X for several reasons - one being the fragile nature of the glass back. I do like that my iPhone 7+ is not as fragile and I remember all those shattered iPhone 4/4S back panels.
 
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