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I would be sadly disappointed to see Apple peddling this kind of snake oil. Phil Schiller may well get up on stage and use words like "hi-res audio" to justify dumping the headphone jack, but here's the reality of it:

1) "Hi-res" audio is indistinguishable to humans from traditional red-book CD, 44/16 (dithered) FLAC: https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
2) You're going to have to buy new wireless or lightning-enabled Beats headphones, or you're going to have to buy an adapter.
3) Beats headphones are garbage, by any measure you care to choose. And ridiculously overpriced.
4) Bluetooth headphones are always a compromise with sound quality, and this new iPhone (like all previous iPhones) is likely to support only A2DP, since aptX requires 3rd party licensing - something Apple simply doesn't do. (A new, Apple-proprietary, Bluetooth format is a possibility - something that would only work with Beats wireless headphones. That would certainly fit within Apple's current modus operandi.)
5) Lightning-equipped headphones and those lightning-to-3.5mm dongles/adapters are going to be quite expensive, because the lightning port (being purely digital) will mean each device (headphones or adapter) will require MFi licensing fees, a separate DAC and a separate amp, which makes no sense, given that the iPhone itself will still have an internal DAC and amp (to drive its internal speaker).

It would be an incredibly cynical move for Apple to ditch that 3.5 mm audio jack.

Very good points from the consumer-vantage point. You forget it makes good business sense for the Apple shareholder. This has been in the works ever since Apple bought Beats, to lock Apple customers in with fewer alternatives so Apple charges an exorbitant amount for proprietary headphones. Don't think Marketing won't kick in high gear with Apple "Pro HD" quality, provides "waterproofing" or other rubbish to justify it.

The day Apple bought Beats was hugely symbolic of the direction they are taking.
 
I hope not!!...or they have woefully misjudged the risk here!

I have bought 4 - yes, FOUR....of every new iPhone model on launch day (for me and family members) - the iPhone 6S Plus's that we have now are perfectly functional and I see no benefit in any of the rumoured "upgrades" that the 7 will reportedly bring.....
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I hope you're not the head of the household.
 
Very good points from the consumer-vantage point. You forget it makes good business sense for the Apple shareholder. This has been in the works ever since Apple bought Beats, to lock Apple customers in with fewer alternatives so Apple charges an exorbitant amount for proprietary headphones. Don't think Marketing won't kick in high gear with Apple "Pro HD" quality, provides "waterproofing" or other rubbish to justify it.

The day Apple bought Beats was hugely symbolic of the direction they are taking.
In the next year every high end android will drop 3.5 mm too. Mark my words, and follow latest news on Intels point of view about this. They are going for a chipset that allows headphones connected by usb-c.

64 bit soc was rubbish, fingerprint readers on a smartphone was rubbish, lesser MP camera for better low light photo' s was rubbish, etc, etc.

And now: alle high end androids have these features....

In a year usb headphones for high end androids. Rubbish????
 
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Yep. Its ridiculous. And worthless. Charging mat? Are you kidding me? LMAO.
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Two words for you.

Charging. Mat.
Huh? You are embarrassing yourself now.

How else are you suppose to charge it? Stick it on a wall?

You do realise you don't need a cable in a lot of wireless charging kit right? You can buy kits that you just charge up and take away with you with no cable needed. Even with a cable it's far easier putting it on a wireless charging pad in stead of messing around with finding your dock and messing around with putting the cable in. With the Samsung one it isn't even facing flat down. They have brought out one where you can stand it up. Not sure how this isn't great to have.

Fact is the new wireless charging pad Samsung have brought out allows fast charging is even better. Would take no more than 45 mins to full charge. That's a gimmick? Please...that's great to have.
 
Huh? You are embarrassing yourself now.

How else are you suppose to charge it? Stick it on a wall?

You do realise you don't need a cable in a lot of wireless charging kit right? You can buy kits that you just charge up and take away with you with no cable needed. Even with a cable it's far easier putting it on a wireless charging pad in stead of messing around with finding your dock and messing around with putting the cable in. With the Samsung one it isn't even facing flat down. They have brought out one where you can stand it up. Not sure how this isn't great to have.

Fact is the new wireless charging pad Samsung have brought out allows fast charging is even better. Would take no more than 45 mins to full charge. That's a gimmick? Please...that's great to have.
Leave it fella, the lad knows he's made a fool of himself and is quickly trying to backtrack. Slagging off a fine piece of kit just because it's Samsung is about as redic as it gets on this site...
 
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I hope not!!...or they have woefully misjudged the risk here!

I have bought 4 - yes, FOUR....of every new iPhone model on launch day (for me and family members) - the iPhone 6S Plus's that we have now are perfectly functional and I see no benefit in any of the rumoured "upgrades" that the 7 will reportedly bring.....

...so this will be the first year when we will skip a model....and talking to friends and colleagues, they are going to do the same. A small example admittedly, but this is one of the reasons why their growth was unsustainable.

you should try the gs7! I bet your family would love the gear vr with it also
 
*Groan* No headphone jack and still no stereo speaker? C'mon. That isn't a trade-off, it's taking something away for no reason.
 
I prefer to maintain an open mind, yet when it comes to Apple, they dash all hopes regarding solid useful features in the upcoming iPhone 7.

Two Front Facing Speakers - not likely
Higher Resolution Display - not likely
Modern Capacitive Buttons - not likely
Quick Charge Battery Technology - not likely
Truly Larger Battery - not likely

Hello Apple... Anybody home?
 
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I prefer to maintain an open mind, yet when it comes to Apple, they dash all hopes regarding solid useful features in the upcoming iPhone 7.

Two Front Facing Speakers - not likely
Higher Resolution Display - not likely
Modern Capacitive Buttons - not likely
Quick Charge Battery Technology - not likely
Truly Larger Battery - not likely

Hello Apple... Anybody home?
And that's it. I think a higher res display might be coming and they already have quicker charging in the 6 and later. Dual Speakers are meh. I'd rather see hi quality audio.
 
There are two sensors, you can't see them unless you are carefully looking at the device, I have an iPad Pro 9.7 and I noticed them by accident :)
anyway look at this photo from iFixIt and see what I'm talking about, inside view can help:

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Yeah, i see them - two green holes ... But they are not on the top edge of the device - they are still on the front glass panel ... That's what I've been saying from the start. ;)
 
However, I just cannot tolerate Android. I have to use it daily for my work device and it really is a night and day difference in the ease of use between the two.

I despair when I hear this.bobbins, I use both on a daily basis and in reality there is hardly any differences between the two. Bar from the consistent back button placement which is huge for me. On ios.i always have to pause for a second just to locate the back .

If you use a smartphone for browsing, YouTube and email there are 99% the same. I would love.to hear.the night and day differences..
 
I despair when I hear this.bobbins, I use both on a daily basis and in reality there is hardly any differences between the two. Bar from the consistent back button placement which is huge for me. On ios.i always have to pause for a second just to locate the back .

If you use a smartphone for browsing, YouTube and email there are 99% the same. I would love.to hear.the night and day differences..
For some there are no differences, for others maybe a bit more like My 92 year old aunt is not picking up android anytime soon.
 
What is up with apple's obsessions with chunky bezels? Seriously, those bezels just won't die.

They will in time..... It's just the waiting i can't take...

Every time i like to look at Dell's own XPS system as well due to the bezel-less always.
Touch ID on iPhone doesn't need all that Circuit board and separate chips... all of the chips can be "in one" and be behind the display, instead of separate. If on the lock screen press and hold to unlock iPhone. That way u can go all the way to the edge.
 
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Schematics featuring the dual-camera 5.5-inch iPhone 7 Plus or "Pro" that's set to launch in the fall of 2016 have been published in the June issue of Japanese magazine MacFan, reiterating many of the design details that have been previously rumored for the device.

Japanese site Mac Otakara has shared images taken from MacFan, which seemingly confirm rumors that the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus will use largely the same design as the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus.

The schematic focuses solely on the 5.5-inch model, which MacFan says will measure in at 158.22mm x 77.94mm x 7.3mm, identical to the dimensions of the iPhone 6s Plus.

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While this agrees with a previous Mac Otakara rumor suggesting the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus will not be significantly thinner, it does disagree with other rumors (including one from Ming-Chi Kuo) that have pointed towards a thinner chassis that approaches the thinness of the 6.1mm iPod touch. While it is not yet clear which design rumor will prevail, the most recent rumors are converging around a thicker body.

Also depicted in the schematic is the dual camera setup that's rumored for the 5.5-inch iPhone 7 Plus, a Smart Connector, and the absence of a headphone jack. Apple is planning to remove the headphone jack in its 2016 devices, with headphones instead connecting via Lightning or Bluetooth. Though some rumors have suggested the iPhone 7 will include stereo speakers, the design drawing features a single speaker. No other significant details are included in the MacFan drawing.

In the past, MacFan has offered up accurate information about Apple's devices, sharing design details of the iPhone 6/6 Plus and 12.9-inch iPad Pro ahead of launch. While largely accurate because its schematics often focus on previously available rumors, MacFan does not always provide a reliable picture of exact dimensions, predicting a 12.2-inch size for the iPad Pro and a 6.7mm thickness for the iPhone 6 Plus, so some of the detail on thickness could be inaccurate.

Apple is expected to debut the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus in the fall of 2016.

Article Link: iPhone 7 Plus Design Drawings Depict Dimensions Identical to iPhone 6s Plus


Doesnt matter to me, I have been a huge Andro Fan for years, but now have to jump into the apple fray, to be able to effectively support the product within my company- Im am slightly nausiated at becoming a prisoner of "all phones look alike" the bland personality of an iphone and iOS, yak! well I guess i can get a fancy cover for it and slap green andy stickers all over it- Im hoping it impresses with the new dual LinX lens tech, im already dreading the missing 3.5 port- as if bluetooth doesnt tax the battery enough- no matter how much phone manufactures taught the battery effecincy, why do they still drain within a days use
 
Boring design. Rounded edges had no correlation with holding a larger phone nor lends to the illusion that it's slimmer than it really is. A hexagonal shape would be amazing. Just like a round smart watch would look nicer. Function over form, you morons at Cupertino. God, I was furious when they announced the 6s. Instead of making it look like a work of art like my Samsung Galaxy Active 6, they used a new aluminum alloy that is supposedly stronger.

And a dual camera system will make a nice addition to the long list of iGimmicks: Siri, 64-bit chip, Touch ID, Apple Pay, 3D Touch, Taptic Engine.

ROFL you. Forgot the sarcasm tag after the "gimmick" bit?
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I suppose thats one way to spin it.
It's like BMW before bangle. Bangled it all up, you can see a clear evolution right up to that terrible looking 7 series and the bizarre asymmetrical concept coupe that became the (symmetrical) tiny convertible.

They're only just now getting back to their "stylevolution" as it was branded, and Bangle is now designing crayons and the like, in North Korea I think..
 
As happy as I am with my 6 Plus, I think that a design overhaul is necessary, push the specs (not only via CPU/GPU), make it cutting edge again, make it surprise people instead of sticking to the conservative 1 inch up and below bezel stuff.
 
The rate at which Apple is falling behind Googles Android is rapid and alarming. Today's Verge features an article where the fingerprint reader is integrated into the display glass. Innovative products are the specialty of all but Apple...
 
As happy as I am with my 6 Plus, I think that a design overhaul is necessary, push the specs (not only via CPU/GPU), make it cutting edge again, make it surprise people instead of sticking to the conservative 1 inch up and below bezel stuff.
The rate at which Apple is falling behind Googles Android is rapid and alarming. Today's Verge features an article where the fingerprint reader is integrated into the display glass. Innovative products are the specialty of all but Apple...
My thoughts as well. I am to the point where I will probably keep my 6 Plus and wait for the 7s (whatever the name) in 2017, or switch to Android.
 
The rate at which Apple is falling behind Googles Android is rapid and alarming. Today's Verge features an article where the fingerprint reader is integrated into the display glass. Innovative products are the specialty of all but Apple...
And at the same time it doesn't seem like anyone had a good fingerprint reader until after Apple cam out with TouchID.
 
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The same touch ID that they bought from some 3rd party. Don't confuse purchases with innovation.
And again, they were the first ones to have an integrated solution that actually worked well to become basically ubiquitous. Anyone was free to develop their own or buy what was out there and tweak it and integrate it, and yet no one did it anywhere close to well or useful until Apple did.
 
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