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Anyone else thinks its funny that the way to improve the iPhone's camera capabilities was simply to add another lens?

Bossman: Well, we can't do much more. 12 MP is the limit that we are willing to go. Anyone have any ideas on how we can continue our yearly improvement of the iSight camera?
Bob from way in the back: What about adding another lens
Bossman: BRILLIANT!
 
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Thead carefully, Ming Chi. You've been burned before like when you said only the "premium" 6 Plus models would have a sapphire crystal display.

Then, of course, you cited "production issues".

Ah, the infamous "production issues" rumor. Which was followed up by two consecutive quarters of record production, shipments and sales.
 
I have to say i don't think Apple will lose the iPhone momentum, will it slow down? sure it will everything peaks, but more and more people have been switching from Android to an iPhone, this says a lot in itself.
As long as Apple keep on making great iPhone's then i don't see a problem a lot of people upgraded to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus with the bigger screens this has helped them capture even more Android users.

Totally agree with this. I think this slight loss of momentum, though disappointing to shareholders, might be a blessing in disguise for users...Apple might now feel some pressure to hit some home runs with future models.
 
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Anyone else thinks its funny that the way to improve the iPhone's camera capabilities was simply to add another lens?

Bossman: Well, we can't do much more. 12 MP is the limit that we are willing to go. Anyone have any ideas on how we can continue our yearly improvement of the iSight camera?
Bob from way in the back: What about adding another lens
Bossman: BRILLIANT!


it will add some cool capabilities to the phone: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/14/linx-camera-technology-apple/
 
If this does turn out to be true and is limited to the plus model only.

Is anyone willing to riot with me ?

While I completely understand how frustrating it is to not get the latest thing on the regular sized iPhone, the Plus phone is where they would likely test a completely new technology before bringing it to the other devices in the S-year. S-years don't have the same supply constraint issues.
 
Good on Ming-Chi for making a bold prediction!! THIS is what he should be measured on, not the "Apple will release a new and improved iPhone in the Fall" kind of predictions!!
 
Sounds like bollox. Splitting up the phone line up due to "supply chain constraints" doesn't seem Apple like at all. Either the feature is ready to ship or it isn't.
 
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A lot of things have been done. Then Apple gets it done right.
Not sure of the relevance of your post. There was never a question of getting it done right. My post was a response to this: "and now we sit and wait for the top android phone manufacturers to rush and release a dual cam phone within the next 2-3 months..." There's no need to sit and wait. As I said, it's been done.
 
Well, then you'll just have to settle for an inferior camera. There are advantages to owning a big phone (and no, it's not a massive brick).

Apple left out OIS on the 4.7" because it just wouldn't fit inside the body. This will likely be the same.
is that a fact?
 
We have finally reached the saturation and stagnation point of the smart phone market. It actually took a few years ekstra compared to what most people believed or at least it did so for Apple. The Android markedsleders have struggled with decreasing growth year-over-year for at least the past two years or so.


There is no longer any question whether the new phones are good or not. The major problem for the market, at least the high-end one is the fact that pretty much every consumer that are in the market for purchasing a high-end smart phone already got one. And in order to persuade them into upgrading on a regular schedule so the markedleders would be able to maintain their momentum and growth it's not longer enough to release new phones with slight upgrades.


Take a look at the current high-end phones. They are all great. It's all down to nitpicking and personal preference more than anything else these days. Go a few years back and the difference, even between the various high-end offerings would give you some real differentiation in-terms camera quality, performance, display quality and whatnot. But today even the 10th best camera is still taking great photos. A phone ranking in at 8th place for performance is still providing it's users with more than good enough performance to do about everything you could possibly want to do with a smart phone.


Apple still have an edge compared to its competitors because it offers its own unique ecosystem with quite a few advantages so Apple is not likely to lose a large portion of it's huge user base to any of it's competitors any time soon. But that does not mean that Apple is immune to the same stagnation that the rest of the market is hitting. Most users with a iPhone 5S feels no need to upgrade their phones because it's still a great phone and the benefits of the iPhone 6 or 6S is not large enough to warrant a upgrade unless their iPhone 5S dies.

Apple can rest a sure that most people with a iPhone 5S will likely upgrade to whatever is the latest iPhone at the time when they feel their iPhone 5S is need for a replacement or the phone dies. But as these phones have gotten so great as they are, and are preforming as good as they are there is really no point for customers to upgrade as often as they used to. The progress and advancement in the technology does not have the same leap for generation to generation, and most people feel that many aspect of these phones have already gotten to a overall quality that they find "good enough" so why would people rush to upgrade before they feel the need for it?



There is simply nothing Apple or any other company can do about all of this. It's not like they are not trying to improve the hardware as much as possible between each generation but the advancement in the technology behind it all is not moving at the same rapid phase as it used to and combine that with the fact that the baseline for most of these high-end phones struck the point of being "good enough" for a lot of users already a few years back its no longer realistic to expect the sales to continue increasing year-over-year.


I don't think there is anything special Apple can do with the iPhone 7 in order for it to avoid a decrease in growth year-over-year for Apple. They can put whatever advanced multi-camera technology, whatever new super awesome silicon (SoC) and whatnot and come up with a great new design for the phone. I hardly doubt it will be enough to get people with perfectly working iPhone 5S, iPhone 6 and 6S to all run out and upgrade. Most users will sit back and wait until they feel the need to upgrade.



But the whole iPhone 6C / 5SE might prove to be a very smart move by Apple. There is supposedly quite a few users out there that do not want to move to larger phones. Providing these users with a new 4-inch iPhone option that will feature about the same hardware as the latest editions of larger display iPhone's might prove to be a really smart move.
 
If this does turn out to be true and is limited to the plus model only.

Is anyone willing to riot with me ?

That would definitely be annoying - will probably upgrade my 5S this year.

Would I like the best camera possible? Absolutely.

Would I like a 5.5" iPhone? Absolutely not.
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Save your time and money for the bigger model, it's cheaper than rioting.

But rioting is free? :p
 
I won't even think about buying a new phone until the 8s anyway. If and when I do buy a new iPhone, it will be the Plus model though.
 
A lot of 5.5" envy/hate here.

I used to think the Plus would be too massive, but I went from the 6 to the 6s Plus and I adapted to it in about a week. After that, I stopped feeling the negatives of the heavier weight and larger size - I handle it as naturally as I did the smaller iPhones. I love it. And now all smaller phones look too small to me.

Just because you opted for a smaller phone doesn't mean that all other options are terrible. But of course, that's human nature - bash the thing you didn't choose so that you feel better about your choice. That's true in all things - politics, tech, religion, movies, tv shows, music, sports... Doesn't it get tiring caring about what other people like?

Hey, it's your money. Buy a hundred of them if you want. I hope you enjoy your choice. I really do. You'll still look like a doofus when you put it up to your ear. :)

Personally, I have a 6S, and the screen is nice. But I don't like the size of the phone. I picked up a friend's 5S yesterday, and if Apple would put the same tech in a 4 inch screen that they're putting in the 4.7" screen I'd seriously consider going back to the smaller size.
 
If this does turn out to be true and is limited to the plus model only.

Is anyone willing to riot with me ?


The 6 and 6s already don't have some features of the 6 plus and 6s Plus so why should it be a surprise that the 7 would follow in the same fashion. I didn't see you riot when these phone were released..or did i miss it.
 
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Thead carefully, Ming Chi. You've been burned before like when you said only the "premium" 6 Plus models would have a sapphire crystal display.

Then, of course, you cited "production issues".

Well he was pretty accurate when it came to OIS only being in the 6 Plus. I'm 96% sure this will be the same. Sapphire crystal didn't happen because their relationship with GT Advanced went to **** once the company bankrupted itself lol.
 
I think Apple is aware that they shouldn't make the bigger phone it's "premium" model. The answer is so simple as to why it shouldn't be that way that I can't believe Apple would think any differently. I was a little pissed that the 6+ featured image stabilization but oh well. Going forward however, the 4.7 & 5.5 should be identical. I can't stand the 5.5" screen and don't want it. 4.7 is perfect. I would be shocked if they started differentiating the 2 sizes.
 
If they seriously think Apple will do the 7 plus with a single and dual lens version then I doubt the validity of anything else they say....

Likely a misrepresented translation or miscommunication. The point is there will be differentiation, likely the 7 plus and 7. They simply see different device numbers, and are making speculation on what that means. Don't take a rumor as if it is 100% fact, these are coming from different people, different approaches, mixing charts, vague manufacturing orders, etc. Use your own logic to determine what will most likely happen, and you'll be a better analyst then reading rumors like the y're the bible (that by itself is dangerous ;)).
 
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