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The drama on this thread over the larger iPhone is funny. Like many, I carried a Sony Walkman/Discman around clipped to my belt years ago and everyone at the time was impressed by how portable it was. The Plus size iPhones are far thinner, fully fit in a pocket and yet some exclaim about how huge it is and that it's like carrying a large screen TV.

I understand that the preference for some is for smaller phones and there is nothing wrong with that--but don't exaggerate so much. More people are opting for larger phones and so that is why Apple is putting the better features there--it's also why the 6 and 6Plus models got such a sales boost--it's not a coincidence.
 
Not sure of the relevance of your post. There was never a question of getting it done right. My post was a response to this: "and now we sit and wait for the top android phone manufacturers to rush and release a dual cam phone within the next 2-3 months..." There's no need to sit and wait. As I said, it's been done.

No doubt your posts are the most relevant here. But you know what was irrelevant? The M8's dual-camera. That's why the person you responded to was correct in implying that there will be a rush of phones coming out with dual-cameras once Apple release theirs.
 
I think Apple is aware that they shouldn't make the bigger phone it's "premium" model. The answer is so simple as to why it shouldn't be that way that I can't believe Apple would think any differently. I was a little pissed that the 6+ featured image stabilization but oh well. Going forward however, the 4.7 & 5.5 should be identical. I can't stand the 5.5" screen and don't want it. 4.7 is perfect. I would be shocked if they started differentiating the 2 sizes.

What do you mean you would be shocked? They've already started to do it, and it's clear they will continue. If it wasn't evident by the price difference, then it became obvious by the fact that the 6 plus had OIS.
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The drama on this thread over the larger iPhone is funny. Like many, I carried a Sony Walkman/Discman around clipped to my belt years ago and everyone at the time was impressed by how portable it was. The Plus size iPhones are far thinner, fully fit in a pocket and yet some exclaim about how huge it is and that it's like carrying a large screen TV.

I understand that the preference for some is for smaller phones and there is nothing wrong with that--but don't exaggerate so much. More people are opting for larger phones and so that is why Apple is putting the better features there--it's also why the 6 and 6Plus models got such a sales boost--it's not a coincidence.

Moreso that they can make more money off the margins. Totally agree with your first paragraph though
 
Please Apple, don't tie certain features to a larger screen size.

Just don't.

It might not be an artificial connection.

A larger phone can have a bigger battery and/or more space. Those, in turn, can support various features.

Now, of course, you can say you'd take feature X for Y minutes of battery life, or feature X for Z mm of thickness... but the point is, line has to be drawn somewhere... and you can reasonably draw that line a bit further out with a larger phone.

larger phone ==> more features (and not necessarily just a larger display)
 
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Please Apple, don't tie certain features to a larger screen size.

Just don't.
They already did with iPhone 6 / 6 Plus and 6s / 6s Plus.

Optical image stabilization is Plus-only. (6 Plus has OIS for pictures, 6s Plus has OIS for pictures and videos)
It's all about up selling.

By the way, it's nothing new, you can't get an i7 in a 21.5" non-retina iMac for example and the limited GPU power you get with your options is even more limited on the smaller screen size model.
Or the RAM expandability issue... etc, etc...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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It might not be an artificial connection.

A larger phone can have a bigger battery and/or more space. Those, in turn, can support various features.

Now, of course, you can say you'd take feature X for Y minutes of battery life, or feature X for Z mm of thickness... but the point is, line has to be drawn somewhere... and you can reasonably draw that line a bit further out with a larger phone.

larger phone ==> more features (and not necessarily just a larger display)

It sounds like some people want Apple to artificially keep possible features OUT of the larger iPhone if they cannot back port them to the smaller ones. Those are the people I cannot understand. The smaller phone is the same either way, why do they want the larger phone to be worse?
 
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The drama on this thread over the larger iPhone is funny. Like many, I carried a Sony Walkman/Discman around clipped to my belt years ago and everyone at the time was impressed by how portable it was. The Plus size iPhones are far thinner, fully fit in a pocket and yet some exclaim about how huge it is and that it's like carrying a large screen TV.

I understand that the preference for some is for smaller phones and there is nothing wrong with that--but don't exaggerate so much. More people are opting for larger phones and so that is why Apple is putting the better features there--it's also why the 6 and 6Plus models got such a sales boost--it's not a coincidence.
Just be happy they haven't demanded the iPad Pro's quad speaker system in the 4.7" iPhone.

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No doubt your posts are the most relevant here. But you know what was irrelevant? The M8's dual-camera. That's why the person you responded to was correct in implying that there will be a rush of phones coming out with dual-cameras once Apple release theirs.
Reading comprehension is not a strong suit I see. Context is important. Your post was not relevant in relation to mine and the post I responded to earlier. You brought up some Apple will do it better stuff. No one was discussing that. Hijacking a narrative to supplant your own is not good form.
 



KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued a research note obtained by MacRumors that predicts two 5.5-inch versions of the "iPhone 7 Plus" are in development, one with a single iSight rear-facing camera and another boasting a dual-camera design.

The rumored iPhone 7 Plus model with a dual-lens camera system would take advantage of imaging algorithms that Apple acquired through its purchase of Israeli camera technology company LinX Imaging last year.

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iPhone 7 mockup with dual-lens camera system (Image: Computer Bild)

LinX technology offers several improvements the iPhone 7 Plus could benefit from, including multiple sensors for a smaller size, possibly eliminating the need for a protruding camera lens. The lenses would also have better sensitivity to light and greatly improved image quality in low light.

Specifically, Kuo cites the LinX Imaging algorithm for its unique ability to achieve high-end dual-camera applications such as optical zoom simulation while sidestepping the traditional bottlenecks associated with compact camera module (CCM) assembly.

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To that end, Kuo expects a 2-3x optical zoom function to feature in Apple's iPhone 7 Plus. However, owing to supply chain constraints on dual-camera modules, the KGI analyst expects the larger handset to come in single-camera and dual-camera versions.

Apple is well known for headlining improvements to the camera technology in its iPhones and showcasing their photography capabilities as a market-leading feature.

Even so, major improvements to camera technology have typically come in "S" release years, therefore it remains to be seen whether Apple chooses to include such improvements in this or the next generation of its flagship devices.

Article Link: iPhone 7 Plus Likely to Have Dual-Lens Camera Based on LinX Technology
 
The drama on this thread over the larger iPhone is funny. Like many, I carried a Sony Walkman/Discman around clipped to my belt years ago and everyone at the time was impressed by how portable it was. The Plus size iPhones are far thinner, fully fit in a pocket and yet some exclaim about how huge it is and that it's like carrying a large screen TV.

I understand that the preference for some is for smaller phones and there is nothing wrong with that--but don't exaggerate so much. More people are opting for larger phones and so that is why Apple is putting the better features there--it's also why the 6 and 6Plus models got such a sales boost--it's not a coincidence.

I am a child of the 80s and I have to say you are taking about two different eras. The Walkman was a portable device back in 1980. Today, not so much. Phablet phones are big devices in 2016. They are a little more svelte than the old Walkman but they are large. That is why people who love them love them.
 
Why not quad camera design?
That would sort things out once and for all.
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Just be happy they haven't demanded the iPad Pro's quad speaker system in the 4.7" iPhone.

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What? They will only do a quad speaker on the 7 Plus? That's it, I am rioting.
 
I think this could be their selling feature of having a non protruding camera. Lots of flagship phones have bumps on the back because of the camera. That galaxy camera hump is rather large. This would also help with being able to actually use the phone as a level...

A 5.5" screen in the 6 size body, with 5s style frame would be the perfect all around iPhone.
The 6/s+ battery is pretty amazing as is. They just need make it the same for the smaller phones.
 
I could see Apple putting a two sensor on the 7 and a three or four sensor on the 7 plus. This is probably one of the key selling points of the new model and it would be silly to limit it to only one model.

Maybe the 7 will be the model when pictures and sound get the "retina" treatment. Photo sensors go multi, audio gets high bitrate lightning cable.
 
So will it do 3D and be setup for VR? I'd bet Apple is working on a VR system for iPhone.
 
Well, then you'll just have to settle for an inferior camera. There are advantages to owning a big phone (and no, it's not a massive brick).

Apple left out OIS on the 4.7" because it just wouldn't fit inside the body. This will likely be the same.
So not all iPhones are "premium" devices? Not all of them can delivery the best technology available? So where's the "brand" meaning going?
 
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LinX... What a unique name. I'm developing a technology called App Pull that updates your apps in the background and another one called Goo Gull that removes bird poop from your window. They will all be available from my company Mike Rowsoft LLC.
 
The bigger model already has technical improvements over the 4.7 inch. It's more a matter of literal room than trying to get people to buy one version over another. I think the big model should be the "pro" model. Then air and mini...
 
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I'd be surprised if this made it into the 7Plus ... seems more like a 7S Plus thing.

In either event, I'd be really excited to get this!
 
So not all iPhones are "premium" devices? Not all of them can delivery the best technology available? So where's the "brand" meaning going?

Not all of them can deliver the best technology available. That's why there are two models of iPhone, several for Macs/iPad.
Or are you saying that a Mac Mini and a Mac Pro should be identical?
 
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