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Obviously you may classify your lenses any way you want but there are commonly accepted terms that you can't change. Here is a definition of telephoto lens from Wikipedia:

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In photography and cinematography, a telephoto lens is a specific type of a long-focus lens in which the physical length of the lens is shorter than thefocal length.[1] This is achieved by incorporating a special lens group known as a telephoto group that extends the light path to create a long-focus lens in a much shorter overall design. The angle of view and other effects of long-focus lenses are the same for telephoto lenses of the same specified focal length. Long-focal-length lenses are often informally referred to as telephoto lenses although this is technically incorrect: a telephoto lens specifically incorporates the telephoto group.[2]

Telephoto lenses are sometimes broken into the further sub-types of medium telephoto: lenses covering between a 30° and 10° field of view (67mm to 206mm in 35mm film format), and super telephoto: lenses covering between 8° through less than 1° field of view (over 300mm in 35mm film format).[3]

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iPhone 7 lens does not fit this definition. Having a 2x optical zoom is a very good thing but let's not get carried away and buy the Apple PR without critical thinking.

LOL @ you trying to apply DSLR definitions to a smartphone camera module.

It's 56mm equivalent, f/2.8 on a 1/3.6" sensor. With OIS it would have good low-light performance for a smartphone, so I'll wait another year for Apple to add that obvious feature.

All else is marketing. Doesn't matter what you call it, the 56mm equivalent focal length is fixed.
 
As an artist, I enjoy creating images that tell a story and my iPhone is nearly with me every minute of every day whereas my 3 DSLRs and 14 lenses are not.

Start by trying to carry just one DSLR and one lens... stop with the ********. Or you are not an artist.

It's not hard to carry a DSLR with you.
 
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All cellphone cameras are CRAP compared to any pro DSLR. It's just plain silly to try to sell the new iPhone7 as anything more than for your Facebook selfies. Please stop.. no professional photographers use any brand cellphone for their work.
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I know several professional photographers who use their cellphone camera for professional work. There are several use cases where it applies. Social media being one, often you don't want your photos to look staged or like stock photography in that context.

I also know videographers who have to use their iphone on assignment, they just can't carry the photography equipment through customers or in certain situations.

Its also nice to be able to email out your proofs once done on the same unit.
 
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I believe the iPhone 7 and 7+ can show in raw, but I am not sure of what information is out there concerning those raw files. One of the photos, this one:

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has a good amount of noise at the top right and bottom.

And the usual oversharpening halos. (Albeit not as bad as on, say, Samsung's devices' out-of-camera JPEG's, which are a BIG mess and absolutely awful. This is why I only use RAW on my Samsung S7 Edge. Those RAW's are excellent.)
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One of my favorites from the selection. All of those expensive DSLRs and an iPhone 7+ hiding behind them all.

"Too bad" you still can't use it as a sports camera. Slow AF, for one thing - the iPhone7+ still uses slowish CDAF (contrast-detection autofocus) and in no way phase detection, unlike all DSLR's (in non-live view mode) or, for that matter, the Samsung S7 / S7 Edge / Note 7.
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Good low-light-performance is such a great quality in a camera! I want that camera on the smaller 7! :)
Too bad none of these shots was TRULY low-light.
 
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Not really impressed with these photos, and they are not low light. They is about the quality I'd expect from a cell phone camera and I would expect just about any modern sensor to product this quality.

Not saying they are bad photos, but any body here with a iphone can take these shots.
 
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Low light my ass. These photos are all taken during daylight.

Maybe what it's being tested here is dynamic range, which is completely unrelated to low light, or being able to push the sensitivity of the sensor introducing the less amount of noise possible.

And as far as dynamic range goes, these photos aren't that impressive. Look at the photo of the kid and his father on the stairs. They are in complete darkness due to the light coming from the back. In photography we say the sensor was burned.
 
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It is compared to carrying a smartphone.

Yeah, cuz we all know how heavy those DSLRs can be... so cumbersome.. and all those dials and buttons to learn.. so much more professional showing up to a client with your camera in your back pocket.
 
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It's a comment from a random person on the internet. If you seriously expect people to start popping out proof on everything they post then you're clearly delusional.

Seriously though, if you care
that much why not just replicate it yourself? Low light handling will only be so good on these small sensors and as they pointed out, it's really not low light. Once they start popping off shots from a dimly lit wedding or concert venue, at that point you could really consider it to be improving low light performance. I suppose the issue comes from the lack of definition to the term "low light", it can really be anything.

What I am much more interested in are the RAWs I can finally capture in iOS 10. The only OOC JPEGs I like are from my Fuji X series cameras. Beyond that let me handle the processing.
We will see right? People will be judging low light photos as if it's a dslr, but I'm not interested in replicating....but if your gonna make a statement back it up.
 
No you don't. Stop posting rediculous stories... I have been a professional photographer for 30 years in NYC.. and know 10,000+ photographers around the world.. not ONE is using an iPhone.

For social media, yes they are and its spelt "ridiculous" not "rediculous".

Here's one done on 3GS: https://fstoppers.com/commercial/iphone-fashion-shoot-lee-morris-6173

Julian Calverley released an iPhone photography book: http://www.juliancalverley.com/books/iphoneonly/

A book of landscape photographs, made entirely on a iPhone.

Julian Calverley is a British born landscape and advertising photographer.

Although known for his advertising and large scale atmospheric landscape work, the last couple of years have seen him embrace camera phone photography. It had never really occurred to him before to use such a device, having always considered his ‘professional’ camera equipment to be the only real choice.

The spontaneous and portable nature of the iPhone, the availability of some excellent image processing apps and the ability to share the work with a wider audience via various microblogging platforms, makes it a powerful and liberating tool, capable of some surprising results.

Often when he's out in the landscape, he'll find himself waiting for a certain quality of light or sea state, or for weather to change, and it's those moments when he'll often take a picture or two with his phone camera. Sometimes it is simply to record the scene in front of him, other times to take a portrait of his ALPA camera, a sort of 'lonely selfie' or memento, from simply being there, and often when scouting a location, the camera acts as a visual notebook, to record specific locations to which he'll return to.

This book is a collection of 60 of those images.
 
We will see right? People will be judging low light photos as if it's a dslr, but I'm not interested in replicating....but if your gonna make a statement back it up.

I'd back it up to get you to stop whining but I only have a 6S, the OP can provide the proof if they really feel like it.

If people judge this camera against a DSLR they are 1) ignorant 2) falling into the marketing trap. However the marketing trap is the fault of the marketers constantly using phrases like "DSLR-like". It's DSLR-like in the same way a Ford Pinto is a "car-like" when comparing to a Ferrari.
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and know 10,000+ photographers around the world.. not ONE is using an iPhone.

So you literally keep up with 10,000+ people and their work? Good lord how do you get anything done? :p
 
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No you don't. Stop posting rediculous stories... I have been a professional photographer for 30 years in NYC.. and know 10,000+ photographers around the world.. not ONE is using an iPhone.

https://fstoppers.com/education/new-iphone-fashion-shoot-bikinis-foam-core-and-flashlights-88260

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For social media, yes they are and its spelt "ridiculous" not "rediculous".

Here's one done on 3GS: https://fstoppers.com/commercial/iphone-fashion-shoot-lee-morris-6173

Just saw the above link to the original fstoppers video. The one I posted is a newer up to date one. Granted, Lee is an amazing photographer and could make awesome photos with a card board pin hole camera, but he shows what is possible.
 
For social media, yes they are and its spelt "ridiculous" not "rediculous".

Here's one done on 3GS: https://fstoppers.com/commercial/iphone-fashion-shoot-lee-morris-6173

Julian Calverley released an iPhone photography book: http://www.juliancalverley.com/books/iphoneonly/

Publishing iPhone photo books doesn't mean these cameras can actually reach the dynamic range, low-light noise performance etc. of a decent DSLR. They can't. This is why you won't show me a professional(!) wedding photographer using an iPhone and not a much heavier (mostly DSLR or, in cases, MILC) rig... Or, are you saying professional(!) wedding photographers are using heavy rig because they or their clients are snobs and an iPhone could make exactly the same-quality images?
 
I'd back it up to get you to stop whining but I only have a 6S, the OP can provide the proof if they really feel like it.

If people judge this camera against a DSLR they are 1) ignorant 2) falling into the marketing trap. However the marketing trap is the fault of the marketers constantly using phrases like "DSLR-like". It's DSLR-like in the same way a Ford Pinto is a "car-like" when comparing to a Ferrari.
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So you literally keep up with 10,000+ people and their work? Good lord how do you get anything done? :p
Who's whining?:confused:
 
Publishing iPhone photo books doesn't mean these cameras can actually reach the dynamic range, low-light noise performance etc. of a decent DSLR. They can't. This is why you won't show me a professional(!) wedding photographer using an iPhone and bot a much heavier (mostly DSLR or, in cases, MILC) rig...

And no one claiming that they do. I'm not sure why everyone here believes apple have stated "DSLR like photographs with iPhone 7", because they haven't. What they are saying is the quality of the phone camera is much better than the previous version. Due to this enhancement means the consumer are getting better and better photographs.

Its very simple, it really is.

I would also add, I've seen several photographers, use lighting, reflective mirroring, light meters, lens filters and Photoshop to get the best shot from a DSLR.

I seen iphone photographers get a very good photograph in one shot in a given moment.

Based on the situation both use cases may require different equipment, sometimes DSLR and sometimes iPhone.

Again, its really straight forward.
 
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https://fstoppers.com/education/new-iphone-fashion-shoot-bikinis-foam-core-and-flashlights-88260

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Just saw the above link to the original fstoppers video. The one I posted is a newer up to date one. Granted, Lee is an amazing photographer and could make awesome photos with a card board pin hole camera, but he shows what is possible.

Thanks for that. Commercial photographer Julian Calverley, was interviewed on how he uses an iphone as part of his camera equipment. He makes some salient points.

What advice do you have for getting the best shot from a phone?

"Avoid things that are really contrasty, because of the dynamic range of the phone. I tend to go for simple scenes, simple compositions. The nice thing is, because you're doing it on a phone, you have a reasonable sized preview -- if an image works at that size, you're onto something.

"It's very easy for the lens to get dirty when you're taking it out of your pocket, so make sure you give it a wipe with a cloth -- that's basic, but it's important. Always keep the horizons horizontal. You can correct that in apps, but you'll lose quality to crop in.

"Try not to burn out any highlights. I try to make sure that the lightest part of the scene is exposed for. You can press on different parts of the scene to vary the exposure to make sure the highlights aren't burned out.

"I do the editing on Snapseed -- apart from the phone's own camera app, that's the only app I use. I want to keep it simple. Some people will use three or four apps and stack the effects.

"I shoot with the phone's own app to get the largest file size. I then import that into Snapseed, and then export it back to camera roll. That way you retain the largest file size. The originals have always been the best quality and once you put them through apps like Instagram that crops the image, you lose quality."

http://www.cnet.com/news/pro-photographer-iphone-julian-calverley-interview/
 
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None of these photos are in "low light condition". High contrast + good dynamic (+ presumably HDR) in order to slightly bring out shadows, OK, but not low light. I'd like to see how the sensor and phone behaves in low light with low contrast, thus maxing out ISO.

I'm not up to date in iphone / iOS technology : can iphone shoot raw ? if so, what the bitdepth of the raw info ? can an app like snapseed (if google ported it to iOS) do wonders?
Surprise!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/snapseed/id439438619?mt=8
 
Quite a few comments criticizing that these are not in fact real low light shots. That shouldn't really taken as an idictment against Apple, the iPhone 7 or ESPN as they never claim any of these are low light shots, only that the photographer felt the iPhone 7 performed well in "various lighting conditions".
 
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