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Also iOS will support native raw functionality at some point in the future.

The APIs exist in iOS 10, but it sounds as if Apple is not going to implement RAW in the stock camera app, from my understanding of the recent keynote.
 
Maybe another app in the App Store?

I haven't seen any yet but it looks like iOS 10 apps are just starting to hit the store. I am sure we will see that API taken advantage of quickly, but I also am under the assumption that they have limited this to the 7 and 7+. Anyone else get that or did I misunderstand the keynote?
 
The pictures are pretty great, but as others have said, this isn't low light. :)
 
The pictures are pretty great, but as others have said, this isn't low light. :)

Yeah, this is really only a point of contention because MacRumors classified these shots as low light in the title and post. The ESPN article only points out that the photographer thought the iPhone 7 performed exceedingly well in various lighting conditions.
 
If you have a DLSR and take many photos with it, it's really hard to accept the quality that a phone's camera produces, even if the quality gets "better and better." Because if you happen to take a great shot with a phone's camera, you realized you could've taken a better shot with a DSLR.

Assuming you had that DSLR with you. I have a DSLR but I don't take it with me everywhere I go. I don't think most non-photo journalist or photo artists DSLR owners do. They reserve it for special outings or occasions.

So it brings us back to the best camera is the one with you. I'll accept a pic from a crappier camera than iP7 over none at all. The iP7 is not intended to compete with even a D3200.
 
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Start by trying to carry just one DSLR and one lens... stop with the ********. Or you are not an artist.

It's not hard to carry a DSLR with you.

So you say that you've been a professional photographer for 30 years in NYC and you make a comment like that? Obviously you are a poser or a troll. Of course i don't carry that much gear with me on any given assignment. That's the amount of gear that I have in my arsenal.

But that's ok, you obviously wouldn't even understand.
 
Low light photos on the iPhone are fine if they are stills. But once someone makes any sudden, slight movement, they turn to crap.
 
None of these photos are in "low light condition". High contrast + good dynamic (+ presumably HDR) in order to slightly bring out shadows, OK, but not low light. I'd like to see how the sensor and phone behaves in low light with low contrast, thus maxing out ISO.

I'm not up to date in iphone / iOS technology : can iphone shoot raw ? if so, what the bitdepth of the raw info ? can an app like snapseed (if google ported it to iOS) do wonders?

Snapseed is on the app store. I downloaded it
 
Let's be honest, you don't even need a DSLR to get pictures that looks miles better than any smartphone can produce, ever. Cameras like Sony RX-100 III/IV, Ricoh GR II, or Fuji X70 all are in super compact package and doing great job in all lightining conditions. When i bought one (x70), i don't even care about camera upgrade in any smartphone :)
 
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Let's be honest, you don't even need a DSLR to get pictures that looks miles better than any smartphone can produce, ever. Cameras like Sony RX-100 III/IV, Ricoh GR II, or Fuji X70 all are in super compact package and doing great job in all lightining conditions. When i bought one (x70), i don't even care about camera upgrade in any smartphone :)
You may not care, but for the vast majority the camera they always have with them counts. And for many that is the iPhone.
 
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So you say that you've been a professional photographer for 30 years in NYC and you make a comment like that? Obviously you are a poser or a troll. Of course i don't carry that much gear with me on any given assignment. That's the amount of gear that I have in my arsenal.

But that's ok, you obviously wouldn't even understand.

I say he's a troll. Has no idea about photography. Usual anger management issues give it away.

Its like being back at the "tablets will never replace PCs" crossroads again. PC sales tanked whilst phone and tablets sales went up. DSLR camera sales went down as phones sales went up.

Its clear to see what's occurring here. There will always be PCs, there will always be DSLRs, just not as many of each.
 
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On-stage, he did mention that it would be the best camera some people ever had. Raising my arm up, that is me.

No. He said this would be the best SMARTPHONE camera and the best camera (non-SLR) they have ever owned. (because most people dont own SLRs)
 
I say he's a troll. Has no idea about photography. Usual anger management issues give it away.

Its like being back at the "tablets will never replace PCs" crossroads again. PC sales tanked whilst phone and tablets sales went up. DSLR camera sales went down as phones sales went up.

Its clear to see what's occurring here. There will always be PCs, there will always be DSLRs, just not as many of each.

Yep, you're totally right on all accounts. It's good to chat with a fellow photographer like you.

Cheers,
Bryan
 
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Why does he say:

"Generally, the smaller the sensor, the worse it performs; however, we all know Apple pushes out some quality components so this doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Example: The 6S cramming 4million more pixels, and its pixel size being reduced from 1.5microns to 1.22microns to retain the same 1/3in sensor size, yet, they kept image noise performance still similar to the 6, basically having more detail at almost no cost."


As if Apple make the camera?
They just buy in the Camera module and write the software that reads the data.
 
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iPhones take great pictures, absolutely.

But DSLRs are great because of the lenses that you attach to them. The depth of field, manipulable shutter, and aperture are all things that you need a lot of space - length and width - for. No one is ever going to be able to crush space into a tiny circle in the back of a phone.

That being said, I'll have to wait to try the iPhone 7 to know.
 
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Don't get me wrong, these look stunning but I think the dual-camera isn't that much better than the camera in the 7. It can only do optical zoom at 2x and software zoom at 10x (the 7 can do software zoom at 5x). And the bokeh effect isn't even available yet. This year Phil said, probably means next year. He didn't even give us a set month like they did with the AirPods for example.

"Portrait" mode is likely coming in 10.1 as the .1 update is always before the end of the year (late October/early November.) The .2 updates are usually just after the new year. So with them saying it's coming before the end of the year, that means it's in 10.1 and probably by early November.
 
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i find it strange, before the iPhone 7 was revealed, i think at least 80-90% of the people hates the new dual camera iPhone 7 leak and says there's not a major update on the phone, and most of them are saying they'll not buy the iPhone 7 blah blah blah...
and now iPhone 7 is officially released and it's exactly the same design as the leaks photo and 80-90% of the people are saying "yeah~ mine is coming this week", "can't wait to get my hands on the new iPhone 7", "I'm trading my 6s+ to 7+" etc.
 
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