iPhone 7 Plus Said to Have 256GB Option and Larger 3,100 mAh Battery

[maxsix]

i will wait for the 7s plus with wireless charging

Whenever the competition (read Android phones) features something popular before it appears on an iPhone Apple plays stubborn and refuses to add it to their cash cow. IE: larger displays. Look how many years it took Apple before they finally caved in and offered a modern size display. The excuse makers will say it's because they've got an aluminum body, or offer some other "reason". But we know that Apple can do whatever they set their mind to. With a world class engineering group, the only thing holding Apple back is their ego.

 

[Enygmatic]

I'm not defending the 16GB version.

However... when I see Apple offer a 16GB version... I actively avoid it!

I'm not mad that a 16GB version exists. I simply DO NOT PURCHASE the 16GB version.

Besides... you know exactly why Apple has a 16GB version... it's an upselling technique.

Absolutely correct. AND... the data shows that those 16GB versions sell at around a 4:1 ratio to the other storage options. Simple business. Apple, Inc. - as a tech company - is a BUSINESS. It's the same reason other vendors/manufacturers still offer a 16GB option. In an effort to placate customers wanting more than 16GB, they lowered their prices by $100 for the 64 and 128GB versions. Whether people think those prices were too high to begin with is irrelevant. You're not going to pay "cost" with any consumer electronics (or very many products in general). ESPECIALLY with Apple.

"They're greedy..."

What are y'all, 12?

 

[Vanilla35]

LOL half the decent jailbreak hacks eventually become 'features' ay?

Yeah, usually takes them 3 years till it's implemented. Good luck with the wait.

 

[lordofthereef]

I guess 4K could have a good reason to have more storage, but this a phone.

What do we do with video ? we never leave it on there...

1. We shoot
2. We upload..
3. We delete.
4. We get hits on Youtube

More storage would just mean we could have multiple 4K video. That's pretty much the only reason. There is nothing else that i can think of that would need allot of storage, we can't do now, expect just "more storage for ....." ???

More and more people are using their phones as their main means of video recording. It makes a lot of sense too. I can spend the money on increasing storage rather than a stand alone 4K recording device, which is many hundreds of dollars in and of itself. If I am taking short 2-5 minute videos that is one thing, but if I am trying to record a large portion of my kid's soccer game, dance recital, etc, I can quickly run out of space before being able to dump that data off of my device.

Four minutes of 4K video is just over 1GB of storage space. Let's say I am looking to take half an hour of video, in total, one day when I am unable to get to a pc in between shooting and dump that data. That already totals 11GB of storage. I know I can certainly hit that already wth just a weekend getaway taping the family; we may or may not end up keeping most of that video, but the best videos are taken by taping often and then picking the best of them.

I am not saying everyone uses it this way, or even the majority (though I expect the numbers these days are large), but I would rather perosnally spend the extra money on local storage than on a second device for numerous reasons, not the least of which being that I always have my phone with me anyway. I am not sure 256GB would be my go-tp size though. I am more than happy with 128GB today, and if that means the 128GB becomes cheaper tomorrow, I am all for it.

 

[Robstevo]

True. Then again, the iPhone would still have Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and other means of connectivity. Not to mention using the Lightning port itself for headphones.



So, you mean like the floppy disk?

And what benefits will removing it bring?

All it will do will put a proprietary price tag on apple head phones and make them redundant when apple inventibly Change the port.

It won't drastically make the phone thinner or anything.

 

[Mac 128]

I guess 4K could have a good reason to have more storage, but this a phone.

What do we do with video ? we never leave it on there...

1. We shoot
2. We upload..
3. We delete.
4. We get hits on Youtube

More storage would just mean we could have multiple 4K video. That's pretty much the only reason. There is nothing else that i can think of that would need allot of storage, we can't do now, expect just "more storage for ....." ???

I would expect the 256GB iPhone to be inevitable. But let's look at the evidence so far:

The iPhone can now shoot 4K video
It can take 12MP photos
It can take Live Photos
The camera connection kit just became compatible with the the iPhone in current models.
The iPad Pro Lightning connector can support USB 3.0 file transfer rates.

Now why would Apple do all of these things? Clearly it's to allow media content created on the iPhone to be offloaded efficiently. While the camera kit can be used to get media onto the phone, it's not an easy task, so that seems less likely. But that could change in order to take 4K movies on an iPhone and import it into the iPad Pro -- though like the iPad and camera kit in the past, that capability could be restricted to the iPP.

Now we have a rumor that Apple may be preparing to accommodate HQ audio files, which will add considerably to the local storage. And most recently the rumor of 256GB storage on the iPhone 7, which would go along way to accommodating the extra file size of both video and audio -- why else would they offer it with the 7 and not with the 6S, unless the 7 users may really need it over the 6S users for whom it would just be helpful?

Apple has long said the iPhone doesn't need more storage because iCloud can stream all of a users content, whenever needed. But iCloud is useless for creating HQ content, especially when you're on a family vacation at Machu Picchu, shooting 4K movies with HQ audio, 12mp photos, Live Photos, and panoramas; and there is no internet available. That 128gb, or even 256gb is going to run out fast, especially if you've got a lot of apps on there -- games in particular can be huge. In which case all of these other recent implementations come into play, and sticking your camera kit into the iPhone and quickly offloading photos and videos onto 64GB SD cards would come in very handy.

And frankly, I don't believe there's going to be much Hi-Res commercial audio or video for streaming and download anyway. So all of these rumors are adding up NOT to be about that, but the user created content. Pro video AND pro audio. Later, Apple can get into content with the foundation laid for it.

Moreover, whether Apple removes the 3.5mm Jack with the iP7, or ever, is irrelevant to these rumors, but certainly makes them more compelling as that rumor, along with the rumor of manufacturers gearing up their Lightning audio products, suggest that taken as a whole, that the iPhone 7 is going to need expanded offline storage for larger file sizes which can be created with the hardware. Whether an "audiophile" wants to store large audio files, or a movie buff wants to store large movie files is a secondary perk. And the USB 3 speeds guarantee the bandwidth is there to pass huge data streams in realtime from all this new Lightning audio equipment rumored may in the works.

 

[Mac 128]

And what benefits will removing it bring?

All it will do will put a proprietary price tag on apple head phones and make them redundant when apple inventibly Change the port.

It won't drastically make the phone thinner or anything.

I don't think you mean "redundant", I think you mean "obsolete". But that's what adapters are for. When Apple inevitably changes the ports for things. But the jump from digital to digital is going to be even easier than analogue to digital, as the Lightning headphones already have a DAC built in, and only the shape of the connector needs to be changed. For everybody else, they'll simply upgrade their 3.5mm to Lightning adapter. Of course if you've moved to wireless, you don't need either.

One benifit is that Apple can replace the single function 3.5mm Jack with a multifunction port on some devices, which will make products like the new MacBook more versital, and pave the way for reducing the size of other MacBooks.

And yes, Lightning is 1.5mm high, which is 2mm thinner than the 3.5mm Jack. So on the face of it alone, that lets Apple slim their devices down by two whole mm, which is pretty "drastic" when you're talking about a device that's only 7mm to begin with. But that's not really where they are going to reclaim the space. The 3.5mm hardware takes up 184 cubic mm inside the iPhone. That's a lot on a device where internal space is at a premium.

 

[Blaze4G]

Absolutely correct. AND... the data shows that those 16GB versions sell at around a 4:1 ratio to the other storage options. Simple business. Apple, Inc. - as a tech company - is a BUSINESS. It's the same reason other vendors/manufacturers still offer a 16GB option. In an effort to placate customers wanting more than 16GB, they lowered their prices by $100 for the 64 and 128GB versions. Whether people think those prices were too high to begin with is irrelevant. You're not going to pay "cost" with any consumer electronics (or very many products in general). ESPECIALLY with Apple.

"They're greedy..."

What are y'all, 12?

Lol. So why do you care how much money Apple makes? Why do you care that the 16GB sells more and if they increased it to 32GB. What you are saying is IRRELEVANT to the consumer. You are a consumer like I am, so why do you want less from Apple? So that they can make millions more? How does that benefit you?

My needs and wants come before Apples. If Apple comes before yours then I guess I understand.

 

[Xiroteus]

Why exactly does a larger display on a phone make it modern exactly? It just makes it bigger. I'd say the main thing a person wants in a pocket computer is the ability to fit in their pockets. The larger phones now require bags to carry them around. I wouldn't exactly call that modern since laptops have been around for over 20 years.

Everyone needs cargo pants! Or at least not those BS skinny jeans.

 

[Enygmatic]

Lol. So why do you care how much money Apple makes? Why do you care that the 16GB sells more and if they increased it to 32GB. What you are saying is IRRELEVANT to the consumer. You are a consumer like I am, so why do you want less from Apple? So that they can make millions more? How does that benefit you?

My needs and wants come before Apples. If Apple comes before yours then I guess I understand.

...the hell are you talking about?

I'm saying it's not irrational, "greedy" or "dumb" for Apple to offer a 16GB entry model - especially since they have their own Cloud options that they'd like to promote. People are asking why Apple (and others) still sell that amount of storage - those "irrelevant" numbers are why.

As for the rest of your pseudo-principled reply, eh... my "wants and needs" for a phone are what I pay for. If yours aren't being met (hilarious), find someone who's willing to meet them - that's the intelligent thing to do, because Apple's "wants and needs" are going to trump yours - when it comes to what they release. Especially when "irrelevant numbers" show that their biggest sales come from said "pointless" 16GB version.
No one would be happier than I if Apple dropped the storage prices another $100 or so, or make 64GB the default capacity. Saying they're dumb or greedy for maintaining the 16GB variant is childish at best; downright innaccurate mostly.

 

[cuzo]

16GB iPhone 6 = $649
64GB iPhone 6 = $749

16GB model outsells the 64GB 5:1

2016...

16GB model = $649
64GB model = $749
128GB model = $849
256GB model = $949 or high estimate $1049

Which one do you think will sell the most? 16GB! Because people see $100 cheaper > any memory size more.

Apple will never ditch 16GB. It's like their Honda civic model of iPhone.

Agreed this is nexus argument all over again.

 

[Blaze4G]

...the hell are you talking about?

I'm saying it's not irrational, "greedy" or "dumb" for Apple to offer a 16GB entry model - especially since they have their own Cloud options that they'd like to promote. People are asking why Apple (and others) still sell that amount of storage - those "irrelevant" numbers are why.

As for the rest of your pseudo-principled reply, eh... my "wants and needs" for a phone are what I pay for. If yours aren't being met (hilarious), find someone who's willing to meet them - that's the intelligent thing to do, because Apple's "wants and needs" are going to trump yours - when it comes to what they release. Especially when "irrelevant numbers" show that their biggest sales come from said "pointless" 16GB version.
No one would be happier than I if Apple dropped the storage prices another $100 or so, or make 64GB the default capacity. Saying they're dumb or greedy for maintaining the 16GB variant is childish at best; downright innaccurate mostly.

You are arguing why Apple does it.

Others are arguing because they would want a 32 GB version. Hence all those numbers are irrelevant to them. Not irrelevant to Apple but to the consumer. Do you think the regular iPhone user cares apple sells x amount of 16gb?

I always go for the 64 GB (although I would be fine with a 32GB). However I can understand why people want a 32 GB. Because they care about what they want for the amount of money they want to spend. Many persons hate the competition (android, windows) for whatever reason. They also hate spending more of their hard earn cash. Therefore they are forced to buy Apple. So saying people should not complain about the 16 GB storage is childish and selfish at best.

 

[yegon]

The Plus phones fit fine in normal, average pockets.

 

[justinhu8]

But if they solve the battery woes and the base storage then what will people complain about?

"Apple may remove the 3.5mm headphone jack on the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus in favor of an all-in-oneLightning connector"

Oh.

Apple have ditched the norm in the past. But they only have for open standards and solutions! ADB? USB! Floppy? USB! Flash? HTML5!. In this case they could easily go Lightning+Headphone? USB-C! But you know, they really want their MFi money.

 

[vsytherin]

Apple has crossed the line now. These unnecessary and frivolous upgrades are quite irritating and the fact still remains that we are not getting what we want. I can't believe that the day would come that I had to switch to android because of how Apple has been acting over the last few years but I didn't have a choice. Tim Cook needs to grow a pair or get out of Apple.

 

[justinhu8]

How about not buying the 16GB option and understanding that 16 is enough for some people even though it may not be enough for you.

Go on Twitter or Facebook, search for "iPhone" and "out of space". See how many tweets pop up. It's no longer a minority that thinks the 16GB is too small. It's a majority.

 

[tuna9720]

battery portion is not worth to talk about.. it's only an extra 40 mins.. Even with every other optimizations that they will say they did, it still will be an unnoticeable improvement.

you make zillions and every year you improve this much.. get your things together apple..

 

[firewood]

So why do you care how much money Apple makes? Why do you care that the 16GB sells more and if they increased it to 32GB. What you are saying is IRRELEVANT to the consumer. You are a consumer like I am, so why do you want less from Apple? So that they can make millions more? How does that benefit you?

Easy. And very relevant.

Unprofitable companies invest even less in R&D, and very often either go bankrupt, or no longer build a great products. Apple has a track record of shipping great products which I prefer to buy. I would like to keep it that way, and not end up having to buy low-profit-margin Dell cruft.

I know lots of old people with savings and retirement funds, and lots of their investment funds hold AAPL stock. Why would I want more old people to become poorer and more likely to have to go on the dole (which comes out of my taxes)?

Too much short-term self-centered thinking on this forum.

 

[MH01]

Seems you know nothing about profit margins Apple has

It's been quoted as high as 65%, for on iPhone.

Id say around 40% maybe realistic

 

[Norcal.]

Way to stick up for your principles! It's wonderful that you have such strong ethical principles, and are focused on one of the truly greatest challenges facing humanity today. We should all follow your lead, and take such a stand on the 16GB issue.

No need to be a smartass and strawman. I'm just getting tired of buying sub par products and then being told to purchase additional services (cloud storage) to be on the same level of competitors. If consumers don't voice their discontent nothing will change.

 

[tmanto02]

We better see a battery bump in the iPhone 7 too!

 

[Mac 128]

The Plus phones fit fine in normal, average pockets.

Is that why clothing designers have been rethinking their designs to accommodate ever increasingly larger mobile devices?

http://www.businessinsider.com/fash...er-pants-pockets-to-fit-iphone-6-plus-2014-10

Maybe if we're lucky they'll go back to those wide lapels from the 70s too!

 

[Enygmatic]

You are arguing why Apple does it.

Others are arguing because they would want a 32 GB version. Hence all those numbers are irrelevant to them. Not irrelevant to Apple but to the consumer. Do you think the regular iPhone user cares apple sells x amount of 16gb?

I always go for the 64 GB (although I would be fine with a 32GB). However I can understand why people want a 32 GB. Because they care about what they want for the amount of money they want to spend. Many persons hate the competition (android, windows) for whatever reason. They also hate spending more of their hard earn cash. Therefore they are forced to buy Apple. So saying people should not complain about the 16 GB storage is childish and selfish at best.

Well you know what? We'll see what they offer. If $649 for 16GB doesn't work for people, then they shouldn't buy it. Easy. If they want 32GB, get the 64GB for the same price. Easy. You can ALWAYS play the "it should be less" game as a consumer; usually results in whining online. Apple may very well go with a 32GB entry; with 16GB sales being as strong as they are, they might not. If they DON'T, it's not because they're dumb, it's because they're running a (extremely profitable) business.

With 4k video, increased MP photos, app promotion and increased size,  Music, etc. I can see them ideally going to a 64-128-256 tier - but starting at $699.

 

[waquzy]

Who cares about wireless charging? Charging is still charging. I want a smaller 4" top of the range iPhone(iPhone 6c) to be great. Please

PS> I do not care about 4K, or 8K or whatever it is going to be next. I want a smaller iPhone(like a credit card size) with great specs thats all, Thx!!

 

[Blaze4G]

Well you know what? We'll see what they offer. If $649 for 16GB doesn't work for people, then they shouldn't buy it. Easy. If they want 32GB, get the 64GB for the same price. Easy. You can ALWAYS play the "it should be less" game as a consumer; usually results in whining online. Apple may very well go with a 32GB entry; with 16GB sales being as strong as they are, they might not. If they DON'T, it's not because they're dumb, it's because they're running a (extremely profitable) business.

With 4k video, increased MP photos, app promotion and increased size,  Music, etc. I can see them ideally going to a 64-128-256 tier - but starting at $699.

I did not say it was dumb. If I was Apple I would keep the 16GB as long as I could too. As I said, I understand why Apple does it. However I am not affiliated with Apple. Hence, as a consumer I will always demand more for less money. If they went 64 GB as base that would be great. However I think persons would be satisfied with 32GB as base....atleast for the next few years.