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16gb = never purchase another apple product again. I've already transitioned off all their software and iCloud features to make the switch as easy as possible if it comes up. Tim Cook loves to brag about quarterly results yet still puts in 16gb as if its a cost saving measure for people when its really about apple getting their high margins as much as possible. so no more supporting a greedy company for me. Android OS is near par with features and even surpassed in some cases, so its not as much a worry these days.

I'm in the get rid of 16gb crowd as I think it's draconian way to get people who are most likely to run out of space on to the 'cloud'.
If I was still all Apple (which I was before moving to MS), it would not annoy me enough to drop the iPhone as they atleast offer 64gb instead of the 32gb as the next storage option which by Apple standards is good value (by Apple standards) and in most companies I've worked for upselling is part of their business model.

Would I get the iPhone 7? probably not as I'm sold on the Surface phone (despite only rumors of it).
 
16gb will be around for a couple more years for corporate buyers.

Wireless charging is still woefully inefficient so won't happen soon.

It'll have to do something pretty extraordinary for me to upgrade from my 6S Plus, we're firmly in diminishing return territory now. Couldn't resist the large screen of the 6 Plus so did my first yearly upgrade from a 5S. I usually stick to the S cycle, unlikely I'll make the same mistake again and get the non-S. This is despite buying the phone outright non-contract, dead easy for me to upgrade. I just think year on year there's little to get excited about (that goes for all phones, not a slam of Apple). As each year passes this becomes ever more true imo, hence the upgrade program Apple now offers.
 
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all apple needs to do is speed up animations on ios10, USB3 connector (drop lighting, controversial i know), give us 3-4gb of ram, dry 16GB as an option, keep the 3.5 mm jack, give us OLED done right, make the bezels thinner, reduce head and chin slightly. Improve camera to film video in 24mm equivalent wide angle rather than zoomed in crap they still do. Better FaceTime cameras, also wider angle as well. Some way to shoot horizontal or vertical video based on rotation so you can always capture the correct direction or choose? improve/expand co-processor tasks to take advantage of asic type battery savings. Optical stabilisation on non S models, bigger batteries. Reduce planned obsolescence of 5+ year old products.
 
Nobody "wants" the 16GB iPhone but they buy it because it's the cheapest one. Then they start to run into problems due to storage limitations but they deal with it because they're too uneducated to realize what's really going on. The 16GB iPhone is for people who don't really understand smartphones or by all means who couldn't care less about keeping things on their phones. The base iPhone could be 32GB or 4GB and people wouldn't know the difference as long as the phone functioned. They'll deal with it because they have the newest iPhone to show their friends.

Will we see a 16GB, 128GB, and 256GB lineup for iPhone 7? That's just laughable......

If that's how someone wants to use their phone then let them. You don't speak for the whole iPhone user base.

That's rich to attempt to put your hand in someone's wallet to tell them how to spend their money.
 
I remember back in the day I'd go into best buy looking for the largest phone or tablet and the weasel sales guy would be like "we're out of the higher capacity, why would you need it. most people are never even use up the 16 or 32 gb model..." People in these forums used to question the need all the time.

I would of been one of those thinking you don't need 1tb hard drive and that all optical drives should be Blu-ray etc.
I think back then that was probably true and was not bad advice which I would still give especially as RW optical drives were standard.

What's changed IMO is usage, most people got a basic phone on a price plan back then (if the phone had a camera small memory requirements per pic) and had a separate camera and camcorder but now the amount of pictures and video taken definitely IMO warrant the drop of 16gb to 32gb as the entry phone.

If we are getting to the point where 4k is standard and Apple's new higher definition music format is released 16gb won't cut it.
 
It's even more niche than that. Most "media guzzlers" today stream their music from services like Spotify and Apple Music. Those who keep thousands of songs or videos on their devices must be a minority of a minority.

Just switch to T-Mobile and use Spotify with Music Freedom.

It's getting harder to understand why anyone would go to the trouble of syncing and storing thousands of MP3s these days.

I can't justify paying for a monthly music subscription when there are plenty of free options out there. I recently gave up on iTunes Match & iCloud Music Library. I bought the 128GB this time around cuz like to keep songs/albums on my 6s that I listen to most often. I don't burn any unnecessary data that way.
Every time I would restore & update my 6s, I would have to sync certain songs or albums BACK onto my phone causing me to go through my 30+GB library to pick & choose. A big PIA. Syncing my entire library just makes my life easier & now I can listen to anything on my phone knowing I'm not burning ANY data

TL;DR
Everyone uses their devices differently
 
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16gb will be around for a couple more years for corporate buyers.

Wireless charging is still woefully inefficient so won't happen soon.

It'll have to do something pretty extraordinary for me to upgrade from my 6S Plus, we're firmly in diminishing return territory now. Couldn't resist the large screen of the 6 Plus so did my first yearly upgrade from a 5S. I usually stick to the S cycle, unlikely I'll make the same mistake again and get the non-S. This is despite buying the phone outright non-contract, dead easy for me to upgrade. I just think year on year there's little to get excited about (that goes for all phones, not a slam of Apple). As each year passes this becomes ever more true imo, hence the upgrade program Apple now offers.

On the upgrade program, I felt Apple brought in the upgrade program to combat the nearing end of carrier subsidies which would have slowed down sales as consumers would be more cost conscious.
 
Because there are people who do not live in the US. Not to mention the battery use from all-day streaming.

I'm amazed at the amount of people who are actually excited about the idea of Apple REMOVING features. Yeah, get rid of the 3.5mm jack because only millions of people use it daily! Yeah, get rid of Lightning port that we just bought accessories for! Who needs more storage, more storage is not the answer, 16 GB is enough for my wife/mother/grandpa so it's enough for everyone! You know what other antique technology is used in iPhones? Batteries. They've been around for even longer than headphones with 3.5mm jacks! Apple, remove batteries and make the iPhone thinner! Everybody can connect their phones to a charger non-stop, and if they are old people who can't understand the need for progress (which can be painful at the beginning) they can buy the iHump.

A 3.5mm Jack is not a feature. It's antiquated and limits audio quality. Moving audio to lightning is an upgrade, helping move the phone towards better water resistance is a feature.

For those who want a larger amount of storage, this is available. No one is forced to buy the entry level model - but the choice is there and that's a good thing. It's used by many who are perfectly happy, mostly corporate provided phones.

Battery life continues to improve with each new model and with constant refinement to the operating system.

You should cut back on the caffeine, getting a little worked up over some pretty minor first world issues.
 
On the upgrade program, I felt Apple brought in the upgrade program to combat the nearing end of carrier subsidies which would have slowed down sales as consumers would be more cost conscious.

Yeah, you're absolutely right actually. Although I do think for a lot of non-nerds phones can be viable for a lot longer these days, and if the upgrade program encourages more of these people to upgrade, it's a win for Apple.
 
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Why to some people feel the need to defend every single decision Apple makes, even the ones that don't make sense. In terms of a headphone port, what the heck will be better than a 3.5mm jack when we all listen to compressed music anyway? It's not gonna sound better? It's more about the quality of the music file and the headphones you use in this case.

What difference will it make? Well, for one, lightning headphones will be able to include controls for track selection, volume, play/pause, a microphone. 3.5mm as a standard goes back before the 80s, it's well past time to move on. Living in a digital age with a forty year old analog connection. Crazy if you think about it.

Every time Apple push people forward, there are the usual complaints. ADB, floppy, internal modem, optical drive... And yet the company continues to grow. I don't understand this fixation with 3.5mm Jack as something good. It's a terrible, limited connector.
 
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I would of been one of those thinking you don't need 1tb hard drive and that all optical drives should be Blu-ray etc.
I think back then that was probably true and was not bad advice which I would still give especially as RW optical drives were standard.

What's changed IMO is usage, most people got a basic phone on a price plan back then (if the phone had a camera small memory requirements per pic) and had a separate camera and camcorder but now the amount of pictures and video taken definitely IMO warrant the drop of 16gb to 32gb as the entry phone.

If we are getting to the point where 4k is standard and Apple's new higher definition music format is released 16gb won't cut it.

I need as much storage and higher battery capacity because I use my phone primarily as a camcorder.
 
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all apple needs to do is speed up animations on ios10, USB3 connector (drop lighting, controversial i know), give us 3-4gb of ram, dry 16GB as an option, keep the 3.5 mm jack, give us OLED done right, make the bezels thinner, reduce head and chin slightly. Improve camera to film video in 24mm equivalent wide angle rather than zoomed in crap they still do. Better FaceTime cameras, also wider angle as well. Some way to shoot horizontal or vertical video based on rotation so you can always capture the correct direction or choose? improve/expand co-processor tasks to take advantage of asic type battery savings. Optical stabilisation on non S models, bigger batteries. Reduce planned obsolescence of 5+ year old products.

Oh - is that all? I imagine you'd want them to drop the price and continue to reduce weight while increasing battery life at the same time?

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How about letting customers choose their own capacity and cost savings with a MicroSD card? Many customers say they want or need this feature. If they need the phone then why not take it all the way? Even cloud storage might not be available in all areas all the time, so having the offline storage is a boon (and cheaper than yet another subscription bleeding people dry, too. As a generalization, am not nitpicking just Apple.)
 
all apple needs to do is speed up animations on ios10, USB3 connector (drop lighting, controversial i know), give us 3-4gb of ram, dry 16GB as an option, keep the 3.5 mm jack, give us OLED done right, make the bezels thinner, reduce head and chin slightly. Improve camera to film video in 24mm equivalent wide angle rather than zoomed in crap they still do. Better FaceTime cameras, also wider angle as well. Some way to shoot horizontal or vertical video based on rotation so you can always capture the correct direction or choose? improve/expand co-processor tasks to take advantage of asic type battery savings. Optical stabilisation on non S models, bigger batteries. Reduce planned obsolescence of 5+ year old products.

Macs or iphones/pads?

Oh - is that all? I imagine you'd want them to drop the price and continue to reduce weight while increasing battery life at the same time?

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The big four: Size, performance, battery efficiency, cooling. Or, maybe the big three for now - size, performance, battery life.


Apple usually contracts makers of screen panels. It's the maker that makes the technology right or wrong.

One day cell phone cameras will outperform DSLR cameras made 5 years ago, which will be at the point that the DSLR cameras will be 10 years newer and thus be better because SIZE is what allows the DSLR to have so many more options, wider color gamut, greater shadow detail, less noise/grain at faster ISOs, flash mechanism that isn't a white LED with slight blue color cast given so much energy that it'll burn out long before the phone fully fails, much better build quality, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...

And remember, first of all, that planned obsolescence is designed - either overtly or covertly - to keep revenue flowing in. Never have REAL quality, just sell a perception. Who cares if the planet is screwed, but that's why people like Al Gore are not on Apple's board since 2003 allowing all those poor, wasteful decisions to-- nevermind, even liberals know the guy's just selling words to chumps or else he'd be live the system he proposes... (of course, seeing the photos of big lakes become nearly empty after a while is scary, until one realizes the adjacent one by the corner still has the same volume, then come reports of Nestle and other companies illegally collecting water... no wonder the deniers are so adamant, what else have they known all these years? Which is strange since they usually bleat about regulations ruining the economy and turning a blind eye to those that illegally collect water, et cetera...)

But for phones, cooling will eventually be an issue (many get very warm while playing the sorts of swishy-keen games that are accused of making Americans lazy and doing poorly in schools which is why they are not employable, isn't irony really neat considering how many CEOs of companies putting out this brainadope blame everyone for using what they made? ;) May as well have lobbyists to write tax laws in your favor and then whine about the tax system being broken because all the other companies are doing the same thing...)
 
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Remove the headphone jack but don't make the phone thinner... Put a better battery, camera, screen, speakers etc...

The phone is thin enough... That fade is over imo
Agreed- Apple's obsession with thin iPhones is absurd. There comes a point (now) where it affects both internals (battery life, etc) as well as the tactility. Did anyone really think the 5S was too thick? Doubtful.
 
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Everyone should get a free 64GB upgrade just to cover the mysterious memory usage that happens on the iPhone. My 64GB iPhone 6 has about 35GB in use if you add up all the app usages, but says it's almost out of memory. It seems to eat up memory with "hidden" items.
 
If this rumor ends up being true I will not be a happy camper.

I am highly disturbed by the notion that a larger screen size is becoming the differentiator between Apple's top of the line phone, and a "second class citizen" phone.

I can understand a larger battery, because the larger phone simply has more real estate in it. And the fully active image stabilzation might be defensible from a standpoint of being able to fit the tech inside. But there is absolutely no reason to offer more storage on the larger phone than the standard iPhone. Just because I don't want to carry a phablet in by pocket, and hold a frozen waffle against my ear does not mean that I don't need and want the best performance.

Should I be able to get a larger SSD in a 15" MacBook Pro than in a 13"?
 
Perhaps. But I think it's more likely to bite Tim Cook on the bum if he thinks this is a good idea. Especially since Apple has already tried to make people replace their headphones once before!

Back in '09 they released a new version of the iPod shuffle which lacked any physical controls. If you plugged in any old set of headphones it would simply play random songs at a fixed volume. In order to actually control the device properly you needed a pair of headphones with the built-in remote, which had just been introduced alongside this device. The backlash was so severe that they were forced to backpedal with the next iteration.
I'm sorry to say it, but Tim Cook is not going to give two if some users are disgruntled.

I will lay down my humble opinion, it will not change sales other than in the Niche market that is 'power users'. The rMB is an example of this, my own one is a secondary machine and yes it cam prove annoying to have no USB-A ports. But at the end of the day, it does not break the bank to buy an adapter and I don't feel like I am being personally victimised by Apple to carry an adapter with me when I need it.

It will sell, it WILL break records. iPhones grow more popular every time they change the design as most consumers do not care what is inside it as long as it works. It is all about fashion, looks or whatever you want to call it. Although I agree it is a pain in the arse, and am completely on your side about what way I would personally like Apple to go, but if it does not happen their sales won't tank. Besides, I use Wireless Headphones most of the time anyway so it won't exactly kill me to cut the cord! Perhaps an Apple Pencil-esque approach to charging could solve the battery gripe?

The iPod thing was huge, but this would not have such an impact IMHO. Yet Still, we need only look to the iPad Air 2 to see a 6.1mm device can carry a headphone jack.
 
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