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Great. Now we can clearly see the battery is ... SMALLER than the 6s.

Also, that the haptic engine is massive and had it been 2-3mm less in height the headphone jack would clearly still fit.



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I think they are preparing us for the iPhone 8.. in that one, the taptic engine is indeed needed, since its all screen..

I doubt they can simulate a click with something smaller
 
So even though i ordered my phone 2 hours after pre-orders starterd, and EE have now told me my phone will arrive within 28 days, this anus is tearing one apart!
 
So even though i ordered my phone 2 hours after pre-orders starterd, and EE have now told me my phone will arrive within 28 days, this anus is tearing one apart!

That sucks, my wife's one is sitting on the desk in front of me... :D I can't open it though. :\
 


Battery technology has improved.
You can directly swap an S6 battery with an S7 battery the same size and get more mah.

What I'm saying is that to everyone who thought the battery's physical dimensions increased. We can now clearly see that it did not.
In fact it looks quite a bit smaller.

So, Lies all day from apple.
 
Battery technology has improved.
You can directly swap an S6 battery with an S7 battery the same size and get more mah.

What I'm saying is that to everyone who thought the battery's physical dimensions increased. We can now clearly see that it did not.
In fact it looks quite a bit smaller.

So, Lies all day from apple.

Where did they say the battery was physically larger (srs)?
 
It has the Plus moniker for a reason. The one to get for the extra perks. Glad it has overtaken the "4.7 in popularity. Consumers are wising up not wanting to get the gimped iPhone 4.7 and finally seeing the light with phablets.

Tired of the "4.7 still on 750p. Seriously, Apple? HTC put 1080p on "4.7 three years ago. What's up with the oddball resolution? The iPhone 8 ("4.7 or "5) should get 1080p. The apps from the Plus models should all fit that 1080p. The" 4.7 will now get over 468ppi. Nomore 326ppi. The Plus should get 1440p or for the 256gb version of the 8 Plus with OLED.

VR is going to be a breakthrough in the coming years. Still immature. We need phones with 4K to make it look sharp. And 4K TVs are becoming the norm now. Don't bother with the 7 unless size really matters to you more. Doesn't have much else advantages over the 7 Plus except the comfort holding with one-hand and being cheaper.
 
"The iPhone 7 Plus camera array is as expected, including two separate sensors, two lenses, and two sets of optical image stabilizers."

Confused.. wasn't every writing that the zoom lens didn't have optical image stabilisation??

(like DaringFireball: "The telephoto second camera has a few limitations. It does not have OIS, for one thing.", http://daringfireball.net/2016/09/the_iphones_7)

See my post on page two, no need for confusion, only the 28mm wide angle camera found on both the iPhone 7 and 7+ have OIS.

The additional 56mm camera on the 7+ does not have OIS.
 
See my post on page two, no need for confusion, only the 28mm wide angle camera found on both the iPhone 7 and 7+ have OIS.

The additional 56mm camera on the 7+ does not have OIS.
That is indeed how it looked. I commented on page two I was happy to see the report corrected this but it looks to me like they just got it wrong. I don't see anything about the zoom lens that suggests OIS. I don't claim to know the full detail of the lens build, I only know it looks different than the standard lens which clearly has the feature.

In the end, this only makes a difference to the steadiness of your hand in low light. Daytime shots or shots of moving objects do not benefit from OIS. I do still wish it was included though.
 
To make the non-physical home button feel more like a physical home button. A problem Apple created by removing the physical home button, but they had to to free up space for the Taptic Engine somewhere... :confused: (oh and that pesky headphone jack was in the way too!)

It's understandable if it's in preparation for next year's rumoured buttonless iPhone... But this isn't next year's iPhone.
That's is what Cook&Co want you to believe.
Why in the world should a taptic engine/drillbilly be such immense size ?
Why wasn't (reloc of) the existing drillbilly good enough ?
Why in the world would one give up true functionality for a perceived click ?
 
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Such courage... A plastic bumper covering the fake speaker where the headphone jack should be. ;)

....
what did we expect? for them to add something interesting there? Apple is all about getting you to buy more stuff from them nowadays :p
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Wait, it looks like it opens up like a book.
just like every other rectangular device w a screen...
 
I find it funny how my 6 Plus still has a slightly larger battery 2915 > 2900 mAh. I'm a bit tempted to upgrade but really don't need it, maybe next time..
 
Really impressed that we have all of these engineers on MacRumors offering their wisdom on the headphone jack. So many people on here are apparently capable of engineering the iPhone 7 with a headphone jack- I'm shocked that Apple doesn't start and end their employment search right here.
Enough practical insight here that can discern loss of core functionality from "vibration oriented design" (how meaningful that may be...)
 
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Wait, it looks like it opens up like a book.
Yes, a book ... a "Mac" "Book" ... they're teasing us!!! Waaah!
C'mon Apple. Please give us a Mac Book update this year (before Xmas that is) then we won't have to bother asking Santa. :D
 
There was room in there to fit flash support in there too.....

Look guys. Yes - they could have fit one in there but they chose not to. Why? Yes it saves a bit of space and yes it makes waterproofing a tad easier - but you're all still missing the big point.

The real reason they didn't put it in there is to strong arm the rest of the industry into focusing on wireless tech, otherwise they will just sit on their laurels as they have been doing for years because the jack is "good enough".

Thing is I don't want "good enough", I want better than that, and wireless will very soon be the better solution, and now Apple is forcing it that transition will happen even faster.

This has happened many times over the decades, as soon as Apple drops something the rest of the world rushes to fill the gap it has made, and every time without fail, given a couple of years to sort itself out, that gap has been filled with something better than was there previously.
Just forget the TimTalk (i.e. sheer technical ignorance that a 3.5" jack couldn't be more waterproof than a fake speakergrill)
 
From chip works: the iPhone 7 has 3 audio amps!

The iPhone 7 still uses the same Apple/Cirrus Logic 338S00105 Audio Codec as in the iPhone 6S, but the Audio Amplifier has changed to the new 338S00220. (previously 338S1285).

We found not just 2 but 3 Audio Amplifiers - we speculate there is one audio amplifier for for each of the two speakers, and the third amplifier is for the headphone via the Lightning port.

The third Audio amplifier is situated next to the Applications Processor Module with 3 black blobs on it. It was discovered during de-soldering of the A10 applications processor. When the blob was scraped off, it was an ‘oh wow, there are 3 audio amps!’ kind of discovery. Chipworks has a Basic Functional Analysis Report of the Apple/Cirrus Logic 338S1285.
 
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It's 2016 do iPhones even need SIM cards... Why not just have the ability to log in to your carrier account within the Settings App.

Apple along with Samsung have been trying to remove SIM card requirement for some time, proposing replacing them with a hardware/software embedded solution that would provide a programmable SIM. Thus far, the carriers have not been willing to accept it.
 
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It has the Plus moniker for a reason. The one to get for the extra perks. Glad it has overtaken the "4.7 in popularity. Consumers are wising up not wanting to get the gimped iPhone 4.7 and finally seeing the light with phablets.

Really? I wasn't aware of that. Did Apple provide sales figures?

Tired of the "4.7 still on 750p. Seriously, Apple? HTC put 1080p on "4.7 three years ago. What's up with the oddball resolution? The iPhone 8 ("4.7 or "5) should get 1080p. The apps from the Plus models should all fit that 1080p. The" 4.7 will now get over 468ppi. Nomore 326ppi. The Plus should get 1440p or for the 256gb version of the 8 Plus with OLED.

VR is going to be a breakthrough in the coming years. Still immature. We need phones with 4K to make it look sharp. And 4K TVs are becoming the norm now. Don't bother with the 7 unless size really matters to you more. Doesn't have much else advantages over the 7 Plus except the comfort holding with one-hand and being cheaper.

And with increased screen resolution we get greatly decreased battery life. Pick your poison.

At this point in time battery life is much more important to me than a screen resolution I can't resolve.
 
Enough practical insight here that can discern loss of core functionality from "vibration oriented design" (how meaningful that may be...)
See- that's a valid argument. It's highly likely that Apple really did need to remove the headphone jack to fit everything they wanted, including the larger Taptic Engine. Whether or not that's the right decision is entirely personal opinion.
 
I feel slightly better about going with the iPhone 7 now after reading that the 7 Plus telephoto camera doesn't have optical image stabilization. That's pretty crappy because that's when you need it the most! Makes it a lot less useful, especially since the telephoto lens is a slower lens (f/2.8 vs. f/1.8 on the wide) and the sensor on the telephoto camera is also smaller which means it can't collect as much light and gets noisy. So telephoto in low light and even lower light than normal might be a bit challenging.

I'm still jealous of that bokeh-rific portrait mode, but if it uses both cameras then it possibly turns off OIS on the wide camera too so they don't interfere? I also can't help but think the first generation of this portrait mode is gonna be kinda glitchy since it didn't release at launch, so hopefully this dual-camera tech shows up in the smaller iPhone next year with all of the kinks ironed out.
 
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So the headphone jack was replaced with literally nothing. That's so ridiculous.

Courage!
Not exactly true. The headphone jack was replaced by the Lightning port and Bluetooth. This happened in previous models of the iPhone, leaving the headphone jack as a redundant single-purpose port.

In the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7+, the unnecessary headphone jack was courageously removed.

Or maybe not so courageously. So far it doesn't seem that sales of the iPhone 7 and 7+ have suffered much from the removal of the port. The only real risk Apple took was some temporary grumbling. They know from experience with removing the optical drive from their Mac line, and using a slower HDD on their entry-level iMac, and not supporting Flash on the iPhone, and other Apple-dooming decisions they have made in the past, that the grumbling doesn't really hurt their bottom line. They'll still sell every iPhone 7 they can make.
 
Is it me or is there an empty space at the top where a headphone jack could fit?
 
Great. Now we can clearly see the battery is ... SMALLER than the 6s.

Also, that the haptic engine is massive and had it been 2-3mm less in height the headphone jack would clearly still fit.


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If they wanted to put the headphone jack back in, they could.

They don't want to put it back, and in a couple of years no one will care. But if they did want to, they could make it work. If they wanted to. Which they don't.
 
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