Update: This article has been updated with information from TSMC's recent conference call, in which they stated that they hoped 10-nanometer production would ramp up in 2017 after getting a slow start in the second half of 2016.
Article Link: iPhone 7 Processor to Be Manufactured Solely by TSMC [Updated]
[doublepost=1455163693][/doublepost]That's gotta hurt Samsung.
Watch analysts spin this as a negative for Apple, however.
Yes apparently, people had stopped complainingWhoa... #chipgate was fixed with software?
ChipGate... the issue was two different processors from two different chip manufacturers.Apparently so, people had stopped complaining
When there is only one goose laying the golden eggs what are you going do?I thought Apple didn't like to put all their eggs in one basket.
Having two different chips was bad idea, but i agree Internet usually likes to make big fuzz out of small thingsChipGate... the issue was two different processors from two different chip manufacturers.
You can't fix that with software.
I was thinking more along the lines of... it wasn't that big of a deal to begin with.
But you know how the internet is... rabble, rabble, rabble... then people forget
Don't laptops outsell desktops at this point? And since the A9 is comparable to laptops currently being sold new (low level ones, but still laptops that can be found in stores), haven't we reached this point?The turning point will be when mobile chips are as powerful as desktop chips.
How about Apple still makes a 16gb model but the 64gb model is just a $50 price increase? There is still room for 16gb for folks who do not use many Apps and who do not store large amounts of music, video or pictures on their phone. And really there are many reasons why one would not have to or want to store those data files on their phone. Two reasons that even a "power" user can get behind: the person uses cloud storage and streaming or the person carries a tablet for media consumption needs.I find it more important that iPhone 7 makes 32GB standard and that the small model has similar features as the plus model. As long as the spec's are within a few percentage points I could care less who makes the chip.
Let's be honest, that's not going to happen because of physics.You need to get out more.
The turning point will be when mobile chips are as powerful as desktop chips.
I think you're reading something or of nothing. I've never had a problem with my phone and it has a processor from Samsung.So Apple indirectly admits that Samsung chips in 6S were horse.....raddish!!
Going to 10nm?
Jonny "Mr. Thin" Ives approves.
Dude, do you even know what a dedicated chip foundry is? Guess not.and then TSMC starts making their own phones, copying everything Apple does.
You do know that TSMC foundry business is at least 4x bigger than the Samsung one, right? (2013 numbers, by revenue).I cant wait for another year of "delivery dates have slipped to 4-6 weeks after the first hour of pre-orders open. You would think they would have already learned what the demands are. Sigh
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causationSo Apple indirectly admits that Samsung chips in 6S were horse.....raddish!!
Going to 10nm?
Jonny "Mr. Thin" Ives approves.
No, it wont be 5nm next year.Okay, can someone tell me what's next?
[ELI5] I mean we've reached to a 10nm chip stage, that would be even smaller perhaps 5nm in S model..
What happens in iPhone 8? Singularity?
Well TSMC does not produce under its own brand which Samsung does.You do know that TSMC foundry business is at least 4x bigger than the Samsung one, right? (2013 numbers, by revenue).
Nope, Apples has no ownership over TSMC and will no get it either.Doesn't Apple partially or wholly own TSMC? This is just smart of Apple, because Apple had wanted to ditch Samsung for several years now, but couldn't because TSMC's manufacturing wasn't up to snuff when Apple first invested/purchased TSMC. Now that they are, this makes sense.
Samsung will start massproduction of FinFET 10nm second half of 2016 so no, TSMC is not doing anything that no one else is doing.When there is only one goose laying the golden eggs what are you going do?
If TSMC is doing something no else can, that's a good place for any company. That's where every company wants to be. Once you are there, like Intel was, it's not a commodity anymore. That's when everybody stops and waits for Intel.
I'm not saying that's where TSMC is right now, but if they one-upped Samsung here, that's not bad.
We? You talk like Gollum. 'I' just care if a phone actually performs or not. What kind of chip is being used is not important for me, as long it delivers. Bragging about phones is something I think only four years old do, but I understand that even "adults" are busy with bragging. I guess that everyone is entitled to have a hobby.You must be new here. We don't care if the products work the way Apple intends them to, we care about Apple not using Samsung, Google or Microsoft. Even more importantly, we don't care about ourselves as consumers. All we care about is how much money Apple makes so we can brag about it on various Internet forums.
I agree. Despite of the rhetoric between fans of various companies it's just as simple as what you're stating here.Who makes the chips in Apple devices is not something that keeps me up at night. If they work as Apple advertises then thumbs up, if not thumbs down. Simple.