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Are they expecting sales to drop off so much that they can rely solely on TSMC??? Dang! :D



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I have to admit, that was my first thought too!

I have an iPhone 6s for work, and even with the 5s when it came out, specs for the phones in the past couple of years are so good to what users typically do on them, the incentive to update the phone every year or even two is slowly disappearing.
 
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"Mockup of iPhone 7 case showing flush rear camera and no antenna bands across rear"

How is this a "mockup" of the 7 when it appears to simply be a 6/6S with some of the bands removed and the camera flush?
 
This doesn't surprise me, why would Apple want to give Samsung any money! they are the competition.
 
So TMC will be the sole supplier for the iPhone 7, chip production will start off slowly in the second half of 2016 and ramp up in 2017. Perfect! Now the iPhone 7 will be in short supply for 6 months after launch creating a mass shortage.
Why would that be bad? It would create rabid demand because Apple always makes the must-have products and people need themselves some iPhone.
 
FWIW: After 7nm Quantum Uncertainty kicks in and get ready for tricks and gimmicks until carbon based polymers arrive to breach the barrier. You won't see improvements at 10nm to warrant people to be bragging versus 14nm FinFET.

Unless the Semiconductor industry has been hiding this news for years, this 10nm hype won't materialize for several more years.

TSMC is fixing their 16nm which is actually 20nm planar with FinFET strapped on presently. You think this goes live in June then people are truly dead where it matters most: between their ears.

Quantum Uncertainty has been present for long time, that why we have error correction built in. The problem becomes more problematic for each shrinkage and has nothing to to with the move to 7nm.


The 3D gate / FinFET is one solution to make the quantum tunneling effect less common. If you increase the gates thickness but increase it in length in the 3D space then you compensate the likeliness that the particle will tunnel through the gate.


In theory there is more than can be done in shrinkage before tunneling becomes to problematic but you instead have big problems with leakage which will force you to find new materials to use.


Great vid about the problem:

 
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Will Samsung be left with a ton of unused production capacity now that they will be producing chips for Apple this year? Maybe that's why they are trying so hard to court Qualcomm; they already saw the writing on the wall.
 
Will Samsung be left with a ton of unused production capacity now that they will be producing chips for Apple this year? Maybe that's why they are trying so hard to court Qualcomm; they already saw the writing on the wall.

I think its more a problem with the reallity that Apple allways will be number 2 at Samsung after Samsung nad when we now hit 10nm with limited production capacity then they would loose momentum against Samsung if they do not get their 10nm from another player, aka TSMC
 
Sure they do, they were using Samsung exclusively for years.

Volumes were lower then,
The a8 wasn't made by Samsung and probably 50% of the overall final volume of A9/A9X by end of 2016 either.

If they don't switch to 10nm in 2016, that explains why they could use just TSMC (it's not a new process transition).
 
"Mockup of iPhone 7 case showing flush rear camera and no antenna bands across rear"

How is this a "mockup" of the 7 when it appears to simply be a 6/6S with some of the bands removed and the camera flush?
According to the latest rumors, iPhone 7 will pretty much be a thinner iPhone 6 with bands removed and flush camera

iPhone 6 --> 7 will be like iPhone 4 --> iPhone 5. Same aesthetics and overall design
 
First, if this news is true than very impressive for the TSMC able to transition 2 nodes in one year including able to perfect 10nm node design. which at minimum takes 2 years. If A10 is fabricated on TSMC's 10nm FinFET node than A10 will be so much efficient and powerful. Who knows if Apple might have up the chip with Quad processors, more graphics co-processors and integrated more chips like LTE,Wifi on the same module. Can't wait to see.
 
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Can you imagine how many chips they will be making? like 10m just for the launch week.

10 million cutting edge technology chips, can you even comprehend that number?

and kudos to Taiwan for competing against the American and Japanese manufacturing giants(and Korean).
 
You must be new here. We don't care if the products work the way Apple intends them to, we care about Apple not using Samsung, Google or Microsoft. Even more importantly, we don't care about ourselves as consumers. All we care about is how much money Apple makes so we can brag about it on various Internet forums.

Some of us care about how much money Apple makes because we're, you know, shareholders. It's the best of both worlds...you can be a fan of their products as a consumer, and participate in all that money they make. I'm not sure why so many at MacRumors don't understand this.
 
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TSMC seems to have some advance tech. Nvidia's next gen graphic chip will also be manufactured by TSMC.
 
So there is so much wrong In this sentence. . I don't even know where to start...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this sentence. There are actually quite a huge number of people who dislike Samsung Mobile for their sleazy business practices and prefer Apple not deal with them. No different from people who prefer companies not deal with those that have shady environmental or labor histories.
 
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Can you imagine how many chips they will be making? like 10m just for the launch week.

10 million cutting edge technology chips, can you even comprehend that number?

and kudos to Taiwan for competing against the American and Japanese manufacturing giants(and Korean).

Japanese manufacturing giants? They are not even on the playing field of the SC industry, today its US, Taiwan and South Korea at the top and Japans biggest supplier, Toshiba, is losing ground.
 
First, if this news is true than very impressive for the TSMC able to transition 2 nodes in one year including able to perfect 10nm node design. which at minimum takes 2 years. If A10 is fabricated on TSMC's 10nm FinFET node than A10 will be so much efficient and powerful. Who knows if Apple might have up the chip with Quad processors, more graphics co-processors and integrated more chips like LTE,Wifi on the same module. Can't wait to see.

If you recall TSMC was mandated by management to keep Samsung from eating into their chip business. Looks like they followed through!
 
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Wait, the chip goes into full production June, 2016 says the article. But TSMC says it will get off to a slow start in the second half of 2016, then ramp up production in 2017. So if the iPhone 7 is to be released this fall, with a slow start in "the second half" of this year, how do you have enough supply for a 2016 launch? Am I missing something?
 
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