With as much as Bluetooth has weird cutouts in signal, I'm not ready for that to be my main way of listening to music. Not particularly interested in buying Lightning stuff either.
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Then you may have to give up carrying mobile phones after your current phone wears out, as I can almost guarantee if Apple does this, all the other phone makers will follow in a year or less.
You forgot the rumor that it will look similar, without the antenna lines and protruding camera lens. Again, welcome to a mature smartphone market.
I wouldn't be so sure, if Apple fails on this one, Samsung and the rest may take advantage of this by including the headphone jack. It all depends on how people react.
Except you are assuming that the reason Apple is removing the 3.5mm jack is arbitrary, or to sell adapters or some other frivolous reason. If the real reason is that Apple needs the space to add new features and battery life to support them in order to compete with Samsung and Android, then you can bet that the competition is in the same boat. And maybe they will keep the headphone jack, but that means they will have to remove something else that Apple doesn't, giving Apple the edge. And the key to winning that war is who is offering the most important thing to the most customers.
My argument has always been that if Apple is really removing the jack that they have research that shows more customers are not using it regularly than those who are. If that's right, then Android and Samsung are likely going to lose this one, depending on what Apple is offering over the headphone jack loss.
He will pretend he wanted it all along.
Remember when Samsung fans would crap on iPhones lack of SD slot and removable battery? Now that Samsung dropped them you don't hear a peep.
protruding camera lens only users that don't use cases would take note of that more.. not really anything to say "I gotta have one because the phone is flush."
Stereo speakers on the other hand....
well..... we can all bounce around to Taylor swift.
Stereo speakers on the other hand....
well..... we can all bounce around to Taylor swift.
I have bluetooth in both my cars (one is six months old and the other is 5 1/2 years old), and I also have USB input in both. So I would never need to connect the 3.5mm headphone jack to an auxiliary input. (Even if I decided to try, I'd have to go out and buy the cable, because Apple NEVER included a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable in the box with the iPhone. Those golden days of the past weren't so golden.)
Apple does include a pair of earphones with the iPhone. Honestly I wasn't sure they still did that. I didn't recall getting a pair with my iPhone 6+. I almost made a comment to the effect that Apple didn't include earphones anymore, but I dug out the box my 6+ came in 18 months ago, and there were the the earphones in their plastic box. Also a Lighting to USB cable that I never opened, because Apple's lightning cables always tend to disintegrate on me. I use 3rd party ones instead. As rarely as I need to use headphones, the ones that come in the box should suit me fine.
So far, I don't see a downside for myself if Apple drops the 3.5mm jack.
The upside is that I'll be getting a new phone that's two model years newer than the one I have. All the improvements of the iPhone 6S+, plus whatever new Apple decides to throw into the mix. Dual rear-facing cameras? I would love that. Faster A10 processor? Who knew Safari could be so snappy? I'd like to see Live Photos 2.0, perhaps with the motion part in 1080p instead of 720p. I have twins who will be coming up on 1 year old, plus their brother who is five months older, so there will be plenty of moments worth capturing. Better low-light performance will also be welcome.
Apple does include a pair of earphones with the iPhone. Honestly I wasn't sure they still did that. I didn't recall getting a pair with my iPhone 6+. I almost made a comment to the effect that Apple didn't include earphones anymore, but I dug out the box my 6+ came in 18 months ago, and there were the the earphones in their plastic box. Also a Lighting to USB cable that I never opened, because Apple's lightning cables always tend to disintegrate on me. I use 3rd party ones instead. As rarely as I need to use headphones, the ones that come in the box should suit me fine.
So far, I don't see a downside for myself if Apple drops the 3.5mm jack.
The upside is that I'll be getting a new phone that's two model years newer than the one I have. All the improvements of the iPhone 6S+, plus whatever new Apple decides to throw into the mix. Dual rear-facing cameras? I would love that. Faster A10 processor? Who knew Safari could be so snappy? I'd like to see Live Photos 2.0, perhaps with the motion part in 1080p instead of 720p. I have twins who will be coming up on 1 year old, plus their brother who is five months older, so there will be plenty of moments worth capturing. Better low-light performance will also be welcome.
Was Apple "arrogant enough" when they removed the "industry standard" floppy disk drive?
The future of earphones is wireless. It's going to appear so odd in 5 years looking back at having your ears tethered by a cord to the phone in your pocket. AirPods are going to make everyone forget about the headphone jack.
I know, I'm just genuinely curious on what impact that would lead on to the sales since now that we are used to a new design/wow factor every 2 years.
But that alone is not a reason to remove a 3.5mm jack. In fact it would be stupid.
You obviously don't understand why Apple would remove it. I guarantee if Apple feels the need to remove it, the Android crowd is in exactly the same boat -- running out of room to add new features. The only reason they haven't done it first is because they don't have the balls. While a few manufacturers will use this as a marketing opportunity in the short term, the rest will follow Apple down the rabbit hole within a year. Where Apple goes, so do the rest.
Problem solved:
Some do. And for that, there's no more convenient place to use a Lightning passthrough adapter.
Or they could get one of these and just eliminate wires from their life completely:
Same brand I purchased, works great.
Because I don't want to. Rather use my phone. Stereo speakers are going to be nice.
as long as This smartphone is not even be able to make a good cup of coffee, I will not purchase this crap!
on the other hand… since designed by Jony Ive the coffee should be sort of far too THIN...
on the other hand… since designed by Jony Ive the coffee should be sort of far too THIN...
I really think the rmb was a defacto test of sorts for doing an all in one port. They must've gathered enough data to think all in one lightning would be ok. Personally I don't mind because I use Bluetooth for everything.
No headphone jack?
Not at all for me. Very rarely use the headphone jack anyway.
The floppy drive was already dying a slow death even without Apple's help. Other than Apple's strong need to make all their accessories exclusive to their devices, there's nothing to indicate that the industry is moving away from the 3.5mm jack any time soon. There will always be a need for a built in headphone jack since not everyone can afford a bluetooth headset and it would be foolish for Apple to render so many great 3rd party headphones and earbuds obsolete. Not to mention the people who use aux cables in their cars. It would create an unnecessary inconvenience for some many people and I know I personally will not buy another iPhone if they do this.
But it saddens me that so many of you here would be totally fine with this happening as it shows you will eat up anything Apple dishes out without question, even if it's crap or a really stupid idea like removing the 3.5mm headphone jack. Also it will be really weird if the iPhone eschews the headphone jack but not the iPad. No logic whatsoever...
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So if you don't need it, nobody else does, right?
And what will you do when all the other phone makers drop the 3.5mm Jack following Apple's lead?
And why would it be so strange if Apple included a 3.5mm Jack on an iPad but not an iPhone? Apple is already doing this with plenty of other products ... The 6S Plus has a mechanical image stabilization that the 6S doesn't, the MacBook Pro has Mag-safe, Thunderbolt, HDMI, and an SD card slot, where the Retina MacBook doesn't, etc.
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