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Maybe you missed that part.

So, if Phone 7 has, say, 3% better color accuracy (the best smart phones have had fine color accuracy for quite a while) than Note 7 and Note 7 has orders of magnitude better contrast which one wins? Since the human eye won't be able to see the difference in color accuracy (besides, none of these displays are really calibrated anyways) but he difference in contrast is very noticeable I'd say OLED wins.
 
For the 483754959934th time, this is NOT a fix. This also lowers the brightness level as well.

So one thing I wonder is: what is the white point of your earlier devices you are comparing to the 7? DisplayMate notes their iPhone 6S had a white point of around 7200K, while the standard is usually 6500K (5000K for print). But since our eyes "adapt" to the white point we see in front of us, comparing the two will make DisplayMate's iPhone 7 look yellow compared to their iPhone 6S. Or the other way around: the 6S will look bluer than the iPhone 7.

The reality is, so long as we aren't bouncing around too much between different white points, we adapt just fine and see it as "white". But because of how the eye perceives white, white points around 7500K are surprisingly popular as a way to make things look brighter and "whiter" when it really is just "bluer". Another fun trick your brain plays on you. It doesn't help that backlights tend to spew more blue light, pushing the native white point up towards 7500K on LCDs before you start using color management (which is a relatively new thing for iOS devices).

But yes, if you find yourself working a lot with devices that have native white points closer to 7500K, a device with an actual color profile tuned to 6500K as the white point will look yellow until your eyes adapt to it. No real way around that.
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So, if Phone 7 has, say, 3% better color accuracy (the best smart phones have had fine color accuracy for quite a while) than Note 7 and Note 7 has orders of magnitude better contrast which one wins? Since the human eye won't be able to see the difference in color accuracy (besides, none of these displays are really calibrated anyways) but he difference in contrast is very noticeable I'd say OLED wins.

Eh, depends on if the contrast is natural or not too. You can have high contrast beyond what was actually recorded, and it will look "stark". One of the issues with the Note7 display is their gamma is set a bit too high, and the contrast, while smooth, is a bit too high as a result. So details are pushed into the shadows or highlights more than a properly configured display.
 
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So, if Phone 7 has, say, 3% better color accuracy (the best smart phones have had fine color accuracy for quite a while) than Note 7 and Note 7 has orders of magnitude better contrast which one wins? Since the human eye won't be able to see the difference in color accuracy (besides, none of these displays are really calibrated anyways) but he difference in contrast is very noticeable I'd say OLED wins.

Right... Forgetting that contrast depends on screen reflectivity, brightness and ambient light. Kinda forgot about that hey. It is in the actual review too. That makes OLED's black point and contrast advantage useless in essentially conditions with ambient light (which is how we most use our phones).
 
So, if Phone 7 has, say, 3% better color accuracy (the best smart phones have had fine color accuracy for quite a while) than Note 7 and Note 7 has orders of magnitude better contrast which one wins? Since the human eye won't be able to see the difference in color accuracy (besides, none of these displays are really calibrated anyways) but he difference in contrast is very noticeable I'd say OLED wins.

In a word, over saturated.
 
For the 483754959934th time, this is NOT a fix. This also lowers the brightness level as well.
I see that you're one of those obnoxious posters. I posted this for people who are complaining of yellow screens. I didn't post it as a screen fix, but as a solution. It doesn't darken my 6S and ipad. Always eager to help, I don't see anything wrong with that and most would agree.
 
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I see that you're one of those obnoxious. I posted this for people who are complaining of yellow screens. I didn't post it as a screen fix, but it's a solution. It doesn't darken my 6S and I pad. Always eager to help, I don't see anything wrong with that and most would agree.

The screen's not really "yellow", people can use a colorimeter if you they want to verify that.
The White Point is essentially set to Daylight (6500K) which is yellower than the usual bluish whites in most smartphone screens. You mostly notice if you have another LCD next to it; otherwise your eyes adjust and you don't notice it.
You can get the same "yellow" if you go to your TV and change the white point to 6500K.
 
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The screen's not really "yellow", people can use a colorimeter if you they want to verify that.
The White Point is essentially set to Daylight (6500K) which is yellower than the usual bluish whites in most smartphone screens. You mostly notice if you have another LCD next to it; otherwise your eyes adjust and you don't notice it.
You can get the same "yellow" if you go to your TV and change the white point to 6500K.
Agree. However some prefer to have a cooler (blueish) display or whatever. Not sure about the iPhone 7, but previous models had a lot of complaints about yellowish screens. I had a iPhone 5 when it first came out and it looked like someone took a yellow highlighter to it. It was bad. Apple and I agreed that I use it for a month or so to see if it goes away as the glue dries. It never did, and it was replaced. For there to be so many different colours, I assume maybe the iphones are calibrated slightly different. You can place 5 of the same model beside each other and they may all have a different look. Anyway, everyone is different and some will like the Color and some won't. Now instead of people returning there devices because of a unacceptable screen temperature, they can use this solution to adjust as they wish. I don't have to worry for I use a Galaxy S7 with an amazing screen and Color accuracy. My wife uses an iPhone 6S. I'll be going back to using an iPhone when the 7S or 8 is released next summer. Cheers!
 
I see that you're one of those obnoxious posters. I posted this for people who are complaining of yellow screens. I didn't post it as a screen fix, but as a solution. It doesn't darken my 6S and ipad. Always eager to help, I don't see anything wrong with that and most would agree.

Umm its not a 'solution' because it doesn't fix the problem. There is no difference between 'fix' and 'solution'. If anything it is a workaround, a workaround that been posted several times already.
 
Umm its not a 'solution' because it doesn't fix the problem. There is no difference between 'fix' and 'solution'. If anything it is a workaround, a workaround that been posted several times already.

There is nothing broken to "fix", if its related to white point, which is almost assuredly the case.
A true "fix" would be to enable setting the white point; this may be close as it shifts white slightly (and also all other colors). That may or may not suit a person's need, they have to try it for themselves.
 
The entire "clock/battery/carrier" bar is persistent. The unlock screen/menu is persistent. Countless UI widgets in software are persistent (think about the spanner/hamburger button.).

What if their colors change? For example, text color in the status bar for things like time and battery percentage.
 
Umm its not a 'solution' because it doesn't fix the problem. There is no difference between 'fix' and 'solution'. If anything it is a workaround, a workaround that been posted several times already.
OK, it's a workaround if that really makes you feel better. To me the screen issue is no longer there, problem fixed. It sad when someone agrees about proper terminology.
 
Not at all, quite the opposite in fact - Apple just shipped the highest-quality LCD of all time. There are competing display technologies, sure, but there's nothing to say that LCDs have peaked.



When it comes to colour reproduction, they use calorimeters to measure the wavelengths of light produced against what is expected. A lot of work has been done on colour and how we perceive it.
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It gets dismissed so much because it isn't as large a benefit as it seems at first. In order for it to be a big power win, you need a display which is:

- Mostly black
- Most of the time
- With tiny amounts of useful content appearing sporadically

There may be some kiosk and bedside-clock applications where that makes sense, but your phone is usually either locked in your pocket or being actively used. You don't often leave it with the screen off for long periods of time where it's important to see the occasional small amount of content. It's just not a big deal.

If you want truly meaningful always-on display, have a look at e-paper.

Ok, I'm not sure about you, but vast majority of people working in offices have their phones on their desks. When in meetings, they have their phone on the tables. etc, etc. My phone spends most of its daylight hours with the screen off but in sight. AMOLED screen allows for permanent notifications on the screen, since only the text has to be powered, not the entire screen. Note 7 does it pretty well already, and it only uses about 10% extra battery. Being able to just glance at the screen without having to pick the phone up would be worth the trade off, especially in meetings when constantly checking your phone is not good business etiquette.
 
It's in the the article - carrying the phone in your pocket and the specifics of smartphone usage scenarios preclude the possibility of applying the current anti reflective coating as being easily scratched.
Still it's a viable option for tablets as you only seldom let your cat play the occasional game on it, right?
Heck, after taking the screen protector off my 6 plus for a day I've already had a fair share of micro abrasions and I don't live on a beach.

Remember the whole coating issues on Retina MBPs?
Yes I remember those they were nasty. Technology should have improved since I'd assume. An iPad would take significantly more finger smearing acid tear compared with those MBPr's.

Hecker, I do live on the beach, haven't used a screen protector in my life and can't tell I have issues with scratches.
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did you even read the article?
In the article, it gives us the possible reason
From the article:
That was explained in the very next sentence.
Read a little further.
It's in the the article
Euh.... I was just checking if everybody was paying attention! :oops:
 
But... but... so many people said it was the 6SS and not worth an update?

Can't wait for the seas of incredulity when the iPhone 7S is announced next year. I honestly can't wait.

You mean you can't wait until you have to wait for your iPhone 8 order to arrive at your home.
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I have a strong feeling that Apple will not go OLED or AMOLED, but instead go to micro LED.

That would be okay with me, but I'm not sure if Apple will be ready next year to mass produce mLED displays for the iPhone 8.
 
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Hope you can see it with your display. It's called OLED burn in.


I hope you're kidding. Because lcd has burn in issue too. In fact every screen has that.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6595680?start=0&tstart=0
 
Maybe you missed that part.

Firstly I didn't miss anything.
Secondly displaymate and other 'none Apple fan sites' highlight how they still regard the Note 7 as having the best overall screen ever.
Perhaps you should go and read all of the reviews because as far as Displaymates concerned having the best colour gamut does not make the best smart phone display ever.
 
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Yep, the PWM dimming is a problem for me too. I'm actually surprised that most people don't see the flicker. In addition to actually picking up distinct low frequency flicker at the lower brightness settings, it makes the image on screen somewhat unstable if the phone is moved relative to your eyes. It's kind of the opposite of sample and hold motion blur, in which moving images on screen appear blurred because there is no flicker. The screen is constantly turning on and off, so when you move that screen through your field of vision the elements on screen (such as text) cannot be tracked easily. It kind of looks like the image is randomly broken up.

The Note 3 was the last Samsung OLED panel which didn't use PWM at 100% brightness; The modern panels flicker even in "boost" mode, though it's fast and much harder to detect.

Totally agree.
It's been an issue for a long time... and the new PWM management (geared and engineered to satisfy VR applications) is no better...
See this in XDA forum. Proof is in the pics that the members took of note4 screens using high shutter DSLR. Look at page 6,7 for the pics and info on the new PWM protocol.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/screen-flicker-pwm-t2905778/page1

And Samsung wants us to put this 2" away from my face for VR? No thanks.
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Actually, all of Samsung's OLED displays are still Pentile, even the Note 7. "Diamond" configuration if you want to get technical, but it's still just a variation of pentile. I'd agree with the general consensus that they still look great, but that's a lot of processing work done to maintain a resolution that you will only see on green pixels.

"At a high level this is a 5.7 inch 1440p Super AMOLED display that is made by Samsung with a PenTile subpixel matrix that uses two subpixels per logical pixel in a diamond arrangement."
-http://www.anandtech.com/show/10559/the-samsung-galaxy-note7-s820-review/2

Not thrilled with the PWM flicker either, but that's a separate issue.

This

And for you guys who are interested, (posted previously) regarding Amoled and The SUBPIXEL arrangement...

I took the time to take some pics of a new s7 and note7 when I was at Costco and here they are, labeled.
I call the issue "pixel hang"... The printing industry will call it "miss-registration".

Pls look at them with an open mind. And let me know if you can see/understand what I'm referring to.

The Google search bar I always refer to:
Look at the pixel hang/miss-registration
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Pictures taken with my iPhone with a macro lens...
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Do you see the pixel hang/ miss-registration?
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This pixel hang is apparent on ALL hard edges, on ALL displays using the "sub-pixel". Pentile or Diamond pattern amoleds BOTH have it because of the SUBPIXEL.
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Below is an example of "colour registration" they in talking about.
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Then, here's the iPhone's regular Rgb IPS lcd close-up... Notice NO pixel hang/miss-registration.
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Because the ips lcd displays DONT use the SUBPIXEL arrangement, there's NO pixel hang... Here's the same pic zoomed in: absolutely sharp, great looking edges.
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Next photo is of the LG G4's IPS display.
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As you can see in the Amoled screen close ups, the pixel hang is very apparent.
Without the macro lens, you can still see it. I can see it, can you? You have an S6 - look at the hard edges, and you will see what Samsung has been feeding people.
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Now pls keep in mind, I know that Amoled screens have advantages like HDR capability because of its high contrast/Colour gamut, infinite blacks, etc
But this is a disadvantage I cannot overlook. I've always noticed it since the Gs3 and Gs5,6,7 have gotten better because of the higher res... But still noticeable.
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I hope that when the Amoled screen is implemented into the iPhone, they find a way to NOT use a SUBPIXEL design.

Anyways,
Displaymate does have good reviews, measurements, and factual figures- yes, BUT This is an important issue (plus screen flicker) that Displaymate has forgotten to note in their reviews, therefore, their conclusion may not be accurate.
 
My iPhone 7's display is considerably warmer and less brighter than that of my 6S. The difference is very obvious when I hold both phones side by side. Is anyone else noticing this with their phone as well?
Possibly night shift turned on? Once in a while it gets stuck. Maybe try turning it off completely :rolleyes:
 
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