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Well...I'm not surprised. The iPhone 7/Plus seem like a placeholder for the 2017 iPhone. It seems like Apple said put this out here, and let us go back to testing our 10th anniversary iPhone. Samsung got lucky that Apple didn't come out with their supposedly all new design this year.
 
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I think now that phones have only incremental upgrades most of this is just marketing wow. The iPhone 7 is a decent upgrade - the processors still make Android/Samsung phones look a few generations behind, its waterproof, and has a great camera. They should have gone USB-C since they decided to do that on their MacBooks and now they are a mess. But the 7 is a great upgrade. Is it a great upgrade from the 6S? Is the Samsung Note 7 a great upgrade from what every Samsung phone was right before? Not really. Its incrementalism now.
 
Hoping the next iPhone reduces that size - OR gives the smaller iPhone the camera of the larger one. That's really all I want :)

I hope this is true also, but most of the rumors for the iPhone 8 say there will not be a smaller version.
 
This, also Taptic feedback just makes me subtly love the phone even more.
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Could you perhaps point out where exactly? Is there space on the top of the device?

Exactly, i think people are constantly expecting a new design and something shiny yearly, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are great devices just like the 6S and the 6 before it. Next years iPhone 8 should be interesting, i think there will be a redesign and that's why they didn't do it this year with the 7.
 
Everything about the iPhone 7 speaks of an experimental device, preparing for a major transition into a massive change. I thought that was clear, but "analysts" haven't mentioned that at all...

1) Water resistance - movement towards an enclosed, "do anything" device
2) Removal of headphone jack - movement towards a truly wireless device (as with charging wirelessly from distance acquisition)
3) Removal of home "button"/use of haptic engine - coupled with integrated Touch ID on MacBook Pro, a movement towards removal of bezels and integrating the home button into the home screen

I can't remember more right now, but this phone speaks to a massive change in iPhones. It isn't it, but it's the first step towards a revolutionary design.
 
When I upgraded from my iPhone 6 to my iPhone 7, I was a little underwhelmed. However, the much improved battery life really made it worth it.
 
Makes complete sense. I essentially went back to my 6s since I found after using the 7 there was really no compelling feature that warranted me keeping the 7.

I'm completely happy with my 6s and SE combination. Here's to the next iPhone making a big leap in design and features.
 
Not sure why anyone would be surprised former Note owners opted for another Samsung device. Although not as large as Apple's following, Samsung has a huge dedicated fan base. When a company has to literally ban the phones from networks to get people to turn them in... that's some dedication. Plus, like 'em or not, Samsung has some fantastic phones. They are the primary option on Android for a crap ton of people.

I peaked back at a couple of Note threads. The schadenfreude was strong. You could feel the palpable hope that immolating Notes would destroy Samsung. It definitely kicked them in the nuts... HARD. Their eyes watered. They bent at the knees, breathed deeply, and apparently got back in the game.
 
Exactly, i think people are constantly expecting a new design and something shiny yearly, the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are great devices just like the 6S and the 6 before it. Next years iPhone 8 should be interesting, i think there will be a redesign and that's why they didn't do it this year with the 7.

Yes I think it was initially in the works but they needed more time. They made the right decision.

Apple might have supply constraints making 100's of millions of the new design. So we'll probably see a beefier 7S to compliment the new design.
 
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That's because people need and use the headphone jack. Schiller said it took courage to remove the headphone jack, yet I can no longer listen to music with my headphones and have it charging. Also if it took courage, why did they include it in the new MacBook Pro?
This is why I didn't upgrade. I have to charge my 6s a lot as I'm STILL waiting for the replacement battery, this may not be an issue on the iPhone 7 but other people would have had the same experience as me and been wary of not being able to charge and use headphones. I see so many people charging and using headphones it definitely is an issue.
 
They removed the headphone jack to make space in a tiny device - the MacBook Pro is considerabley larger than the iPhone.
I think the reason people are confused by Apple retaining the headphone socket in the new MBP is because of the outright condemnation of the same socket by Apple executives when the iPhone 7 was announced.
The audio connector is more than 100 years old", "It had its last big innovation about 50 years ago. You know what that was? They made it smaller. It hasn't been touched since then. It's a dinosaur. It's time to move on", "We are removing the audio jack because we have developed a better way to deliver audio", "We've got this 50-year-old connector -- just a hole filled with air -- and it's just sitting there taking up space, really valuable space"
If they genuinely feel it's that bad and outdated, wouldn't you expect them to remove it from all of their new product releases?
 
Everything about the iPhone 7 speaks of an experimental device, preparing for a major transition into a massive change. I thought that was clear, but "analysts" haven't mentioned that at all...

1) Water resistance - movement towards an enclosed, "do anything" device
2) Removal of headphone jack - movement towards a truly wireless device (as with charging wirelessly from distance acquisition)
3) Removal of home "button"/use of haptic engine - coupled with integrated Touch ID on MacBook Pro, a movement towards removal of bezels and integrating the home button into the home screen

I can't remember more right now, but this phone speaks to a massive change in iPhones. It isn't it, but it's the first step towards a revolutionary design.
Yep, basically. The iPhone 7 is preparing users for a transition. I expect the wireless capabilities to be even better next year. I'm willing to bet we even get wireless charging next year.
 
44% vs 49% a year ago is pretty weak performance in light of:
1. an 'all new' iphone model vs the s version last year
2. samsung screwing up in a big way with the note7
 
That's why I went with an S7 after the Note 7 mess. The Nougat betas are awesome with it. An iPhone would've been a big downgrade in too many areas. My iPhone had to be jailbroken to fix Apple's problems and to be happy. Everything I needed a jailbreak for can be done on any Android device without even rooting. Pure smartphone bliss. Have never been happier.
 
This, also Taptic feedback just makes me subtly love the phone even more.
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Could you perhaps point out where exactly? Is there space on the top of the device?
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Lots of space on the top
 
That's because people need and use the headphone jack. Schiller said it took courage to remove the headphone jack, yet I can no longer listen to music with my headphones and have it charging. Also if it took courage, why did they include it in the new MacBook Pro?

They explained that
 
My biggest issue with the 7s is the lack of headphone jack. Literally a dealbreaker so I remained with the 6s+. But as soon as I get the fuze case I'm upgrading
 
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