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It's a great phone you got - the Huawei Mate 9. But are you seriously comparing the iPhone 6+, now an over 2 year old phone, with a phone that was released last month???

You mention having dual sim - and I totally agree. That would be a nice feature, instead of having to carry 2 x phones, like I do now.

Hey bud!

Not directly comparing but at the same time I am... what is so different about the 7 vs my 6+? Software wise, nearly the same?... hardware, okay..so better camera, less 3.5 jack, and faster CPU? I'm talking about software features more than hardware.

Apple Music on my Android vs. Apple Music on my iPhone via BT in my BMW... no comparison, the Android wins all day. Native Google Maps to get around my city (Bangkok is a challenge), Google kills Apple Maps all day. Here, watch out terrible Apple maps is... type in: 1411 S Andrews Ave, Fort Lauderdale, FL and watch Apple switch it to North, because Apple knows where you want to go, and you don't. Google Maps of course, handles that fine. I reported it to Apple, no fix of course.

Typing with iOS is horrible, Android is by far in a way much better... where BB was king, Android is second, and iOS is third. Been using smart phones since you had to call Research in Motion and give them your email info over the phone...lol
 
I find the Apple Pencil's charging method very clever actually. It basically allows me to charge my pencil anywhere so long as I have my iPad with me (which I should if I am using the pencil), and I find I only charge my pencil this way. The lightning adaptor is still sitting untouched in its original packaging.

I think this is one of those "uniquely Apple" moments, where they show that they are not afraid to think outside the box and come up with unorthodox, albeit clever solutions to very real problems.

Maybe you're right. To me it looks ridiculous :) For me, a clever way to charge would be wireless charging - i.e. you dock the Pencil to the iPad (it attaches via a magnet or something) and the iPad charges it. The way it is it looks awkward just like the Magic Mouse 2 charging solution.
Guess we can agree to disagree.
 
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Maybe you're right. To me it looks ridiculous :) For me, a clever way to charge would be wireless charging - i.e. you dock the Pencil to the iPad (it attaches via a magnet or something) and the iPad charges it. The way it is it looks awkward just like the Magic Mouse 2 charging solution.
Guess we can agree to disagree.

You are absolutely right. It is silly. But it's not really meant to be charged that way -- that's the emergency charging option. I still would have done it differently, but when someone needs a quick energy tap in the field, this is absolutely brilliant. The fact that people like Abazigal defend to the teeth such a ridiculous charging method, and foolishly use it as a primary charging means is more the result of thick rose tinted glasses, and should not be taken as an endorsement by Apple to utilize it as a primary means of charging, nor take away from the brilliance of the concept.

As for your wireless charging thoughts, I suspect we'll see that in a couple of years. One of the better methods I would have proposed instead of the ridiculous Lightning method is for Apple to have utilized the magnetic Smart Connector for charging -- Pencil snaps to case, charging commences. Since Apple doesn't yet endorse the Smart Connector for charging, one could say Apple chose not to go down that path yet without fully committing to it across their product lines.
 
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I've threatened to do that many times, but I always stop dead in my tracks when I use an Android device and get reminded how crappy the OS is
Sheer nonsense. Especially now, since 2016 was the year when even mid-range, $200-ish Android devices offer a fluid experience and great cameras. As for the OS itself, it's far more featured and flexible than the aged, clunky, stilted iOS.

plus I remember that security matters a lot to me.
Do a search for the "goto fail" bug, realise that Apple treats the most security-sensitive code in a cavalier, careless manner, that they have no process for dealing with code changes (no code reviews, no unit tests), that Apple security strictly means "security through obscurity", i.e. no security whatsoever, and then cry with your iPhone.

There's nothing in my quote, literally or contextually, that says I look down on any of the 3 groups of individuals I mentioned. Those groups were specifically mentioned to juxtapose the opinion of Touchwiz vs it's actual affect on the success of Samsung devices. Meaning, if it was as bad as those groups claim, one would think it would negatively affect Sammy's sales.
I said tech media - typically doesn't like TW. There's nothing here about my feelings about the tech media.
* I said tech nerds - typically don't like TW. I am a tech nerd and based on your post so are you. Nothing here either.
You know, I used to only have Nexus phones because I was worried about these skins. So much noise and fury in reviews and on forums against TW, EMUI, you name it.

After biting the bullet and using other launchers, I realised this is all the noise made by drama queens in love with themselves, who absolutely hate the dress in red but absolutely love it in burgundy. All irrelevant crap, since all these skins are virtually no different to base Android in any way that a sensible person might care, and all is tinkering at the edges.
 
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With a grudging reluctance fueled by pretending the lightning cable is "not really there".


Is distance from the charging source going to be the barometer for "true" wireless? Qi type of inductive charging requires a closer proximity to the charger than resonance charging but both require a charging station that's hard wired, and neither are "wired" to the charging station. Kinda just semantics imo.
I believe that wireless charging means wireless, as in no requirement to sit on a charger. So to answer your question, yes, I think charging from a distance will be the only "wireless" charging solution.
It is really satisfying when the magnets pull my Apple Watch down on the (wired)charger, to be fair.
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See you already have OIS on your 6s+ - the 6 didn't have it BUT the 7 does, along with the improved aperture - that's why I upgraded to the 7.
I've had OIS since iPhone 6+ and it's no reason to buy another 900$ device.
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Not sure if this is a joke... Anyway, I haven't (unless you count my hacked AOL account), but my boss has, and material under NDA sometimes goes on my phone.
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The nihilist: Smartphones take away from human interaction, and there are only a few basic uses for one that the iPhone 4 already covered. None of this really matters; Apple will be at most a one-word mention in a history book 100 years from now.
No joke, you had said you considered switching OS to realize you liked having security/privacy. All I'm saying is no one thinks of how important those features are until you no longer have them.
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Hey bud!

Not directly comparing but at the same time I am... what is so different about the 7 vs my 6+? Software wise, nearly the same?... hardware, okay..so better camera, less 3.5 jack, and faster CPU? I'm talking about software features more than hardware.

Apple Music on my Android vs. Apple Music on my iPhone via BT in my BMW... no comparison, the Android wins all day. Native Google Maps to get around my city (Bangkok is a challenge), Google kills Apple Maps all day. Here, watch out terrible Apple maps is... type in: 1411 S Andrews Ave, Fort Lauderdale, FL and watch Apple switch it to North, because Apple knows where you want to go, and you don't. Google Maps of course, handles that fine. I reported it to Apple, no fix of course.

Typing with iOS is horrible, Android is by far in a way much better... where BB was king, Android is second, and iOS is third. Been using smart phones since you had to call Research in Motion and give them your email info over the phone...lol
If Apple doesn't work for you why are you here complaining about Apple not working for you? Just use your crappy android and stop flaunting in an Apple forum.you gave 3 reasons why you think android is better but honestly those are terrible reasons. 1 location error in maps and BT audio compared to one other phone through one car receiver.
"Android is by far in a way much better"- Yes, absolutely, kinda maybe.
 
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True. Tim Cook's own statements aren't helping though.
That one about the iPad being all that people need was asinine.
The Iphone is still a hit but the rest of the product line is languishing.
I don't hate Tim but its hard to watch Apple go back to the way it was in the 90's.

I disagree with the premise that 'it's going back to the way it was in the 90s'.
 
Yeah but that's not wireless haha. It would be easier to market a lot of things if you lie about what they are!
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Security/privacy is never important unless you have had it and lost it.

It's not about lying. Inductive Charging would get a lot of people scratching their heads. Saying wireless is just an easier way. Besides, actual wireless charging is a terrible idea.
 
It's not about lying. Inductive Charging would get a lot of people scratching their heads. Saying wireless is just an easier way. Besides, actual wireless charging is a terrible idea.
Selling wireless and delivering inductive is a lie though. Actual wireless charging as it exists now is a terrible idea no doubt. I disagree that inductive would have people scratching their heads, especially when it was explained in a video ad. Personally I think inductive sounds more definitive than wireless.
I just don't think it's right the tech can be marketed as something it is not.
Are you familiar with the work done by Tesla? It was a very long time ago but he had plans for wireless transmission of power over distance. It wasn't perfect but it seems as though either the tech hit a wall or we went the other route(power lines)
 
Selling wireless and delivering inductive is a lie though. Actual wireless charging as it exists now is a terrible idea no doubt. I disagree that inductive would have people scratching their heads, especially when it was explained in a video ad. Personally I think inductive sounds more definitive than wireless.
I just don't think it's right the tech can be marketed as something it is not.
Are you familiar with the work done by Tesla? It was a very long time ago but he had plans for wireless transmission of power over distance. It wasn't perfect but it seems as though either the tech hit a wall or we went the other route(power lines)

Do you want to know what stops real wireless charging from being viable? Physics. The amount of energy you would need to send over the air only gets higher as you get further from the source. So unless we change physics, I doubt we're going to have good truly wireless charging. And that's not even mentioning the possible health issues.

Also, you're overestimating people.
 
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Do you want to know what stops real wireless charging from being viable? Physics. The amount of energy you would need to send over the air only gets higher as you get further from the source. So unless we change physics, I doubt we're going to have good truly wireless charging. And that's not even mentioning the possible health issues.

Also, you're overestimating people.
Haha yeah I tend to give people more credit then they deserve. It would be near impossible to power anything a certain distance from the transmitter, I understand. There would obviously need to be more than 1 centralized power transmitter per so many miles in order to power a city and rural surrounding areas but it would have been nice if we started building that instead of laying wire around the country, back when.

I still feel like short distance power transmission is achievable and it doesn't need to be inductive

It is nice to see someone else concerned with health issues, though. Having said that we have been using electricity for over 100 years and in that time the average life span has gone down steadily. Could be related but impossible to know for sure
 
In the case of Qi charging, wireless means you don't have to fiddle with a cable every time you want to charge. I stanf my 6S to use it as an alarm clock. When I get to bed late and I don't want to turn on a light to not disturb my wife, it's a real PITA. my old Nexus 5, I'd just place it on the stand. done.
 
I believe that wireless charging means wireless, as in no requirement to sit on a charger. So to answer your question, yes, I think charging from a distance will be the only "wireless" charging solution.
It is really satisfying when the magnets pull my Apple Watch down on the (wired)charger, to be fair.
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I've had OIS since iPhone 6+ and it's no reason to buy another 900$ device.
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No joke, you had said you considered switching OS to realize you liked having security/privacy. All I'm saying is no one thinks of how important those features are until you no longer have them.
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If Apple doesn't work for you why are you here complaining about Apple not working for you? Just use your crappy android and stop flaunting in an Apple forum.you gave 3 reasons why you think android is better but honestly those are terrible reasons. 1 location error in maps and BT audio compared to one other phone through one car receiver.
"Android is by far in a way much better"- Yes, absolutely, kinda maybe.

It won't be an either/or thing. Wireless charging at a distance, and inductive magnetic charging will co-exist. Even once all the bugs are worked out and everything goes wireless, there will still be the occasional need to plug in a physical cable. The trick is what kind of ports will it have? The Smart connector has already show us where Apple intends to take that. For simple charging, audio, and diagnostics, those three dots are all anybody needs, and they will currently handle USB 2 transfer speeds as well.

Haha yeah I tend to give people more credit then they deserve. It would be near impossible to power anything a certain distance from the transmitter, I understand. There would obviously need to be more than 1 centralized power transmitter per so many miles in order to power a city and rural surrounding areas but it would have been nice if we started building that instead of laying wire around the country, back when.

I still feel like short distance power transmission is achievable and it doesn't need to be inductive

It is nice to see someone else concerned with health issues, though. Having said that we have been using electricity for over 100 years and in that time the average life span has gone down steadily. Could be related but impossible to know for sure

The average lifespan has been going down steadily over the last 100 years? Maybe in the Soviet Union, or Ethiopia, but certainly not in the First world Western nations. It's only being going up. I think the last year or two saw the first slight declines in over 100 years.
 
It won't be an either/or thing. Wireless charging at a distance, and inductive magnetic charging will co-exist. Even once all the bugs are worked out and everything goes wireless, there will still be the occasional need to plug in a physical cable. The trick is what kind of ports will it have? The Smart connector has already show us where Apple intends to take that. For simple charging, audio, and diagnostics, those three dots are all anybody needs, and they will currently handle USB 2 transfer speeds as well.



The average lifespan has been going down steadily over the last 100 years? Maybe in the Soviet Union, or Ethiopia, but certainly not in the First world Western nations. It's only being going up. I think the last year or two saw the first slight declines in over 100 years.
Yeah I'm sure they will co exist. You are probably right on the lifespan, that was just a guess but I'm not sure there is sufficient evidence to argue we are healthier now than we were before the industrial revolution. I'm probably off on my dates as well. There may be data that proves we are getting longer lifespans I'm just not familiar with it/any long term health data. I probably shouldn't have even mention lifespan earlier. My bad
 
@WRChris

We use our phones in different ways, and not all phones are the same, neither are their OS features. I drive my car often, and iOS has poor integration with BMW info entertainment. My music app will stutter on the first song in my library all the way to the office, but Android with Apple Music pics right up where I left off. It's fantastic... and the main reason I got the android phone, tired of not enjoying my streaming services in the car. Many other BMW have the same issue... also, google maps has better content and is more accurate in Thailand, and I also found this at home in the USA.

I belong to this forum because I am deeply rooted in the Apple ecosystem, but that doesn't mean I'm a one trick pony, I love all technology and enjoy chatting with other like minded people in this forum.

So if you aren't comfortable with someone else having an opinion or sharing their experience, then you should probably seek therapy.
 
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Interesting to see reports that the iPhone 7 didn't do well and yet Apple is reporting a high demand for their Air Pods. If there is high demand, what other devices can you connect the Air pods to if not an iPhone with the new wireless chip?
 
Interesting to see reports that the iPhone 7 didn't do well and yet Apple is reporting a high demand for their Air Pods. If there is high demand, what other devices can you connect the Air pods to if not an iPhone with the new wireless chip?

Any BT device can connect to the AirPods. The iPhone 7 does not have the W1 chip, the AirPods do. The iPhone 7 does not offer any unique feature when using the AirPods, other than any other Apple product which takes advantage of instant pairing.

In short, the AirPods will function as advertised with any Apple Product that supports BT and the latest OS. They will also function as normal BT headphones with any other product that supports BT. That's a massive market, much bigger than the number of iPhone 7s sold to date ...
 
Upgraded from iPhone 4S to Galaxy Note II in 2012. An iPhone 7 would still be a downgrade from the four year old Galaxy Note II.
 
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Just ordered a 7 Plus. Only got it because the Note 7 fiasco and the only other interesting phone on the market is a bit too niche and not sold officially in the US (Xiaomi Mi Mix). Apple needs to really up their game.
 
Just ordered a 7 Plus. Only got it because the Note 7 fiasco and the only other interesting phone on the market is a bit too niche and not sold officially in the US (Xiaomi Mi Mix). Apple needs to really up their game.

I went with the Mate 9 instead of the Note 7, I'm very happy... amazing device. I believe it will launch in the USA.. Apple does need to get their game straight, need a new coach
 
How can a pixel outperform in zoom conditions? It can't really. I'd say the cameras are about equal.
But the Pixel does outperform the iPhone 7's dual camera in every way, it is truly the smartphone camera to beat.
[doublepost=1483463827][/doublepost]Many people will not switch from the Note 7 to the iPhone simply because it would mean repurchasing their apps again, if Apple offered a way to transfer your app purchases (when they are available on both platforms), you would have seen a lot more people make the switch, even if they limited the transfer to switchers that are switching form the Note 7 or made it a time limited offer.

But really Apple needs to return to being innovative and not just copying what others do.
 
Many people will not switch from the Note 7 to the iPhone simply because it would mean repurchasing their apps again
This is so true. I was thinking of switching from the iPhone, after using it since the first one. After being disappointed at the iPhone 7, which is basically the iPhone 6, I was thinking of switching. This is definitely one thing that prevents me from doing so.
if Apple offered a way to transfer your app purchases (when they are available on both platforms), you would have seen a lot more people make the switch, even if they limited the transfer to switchers that are switching form the Note 7 or made it a time limited offer.
I think this is a good idea for consumers, but I seriously doubt this will ever happen.

But really Apple needs to return to being innovative and not just copying what others do.
This is true. After Apple releasing the third version of the iPhone 6 (which, imo is the least unique version of the iPhones), people expect more. Also, people expect being able to have the great stuff like larger storage, and better camera without having to purchase the plus size.
 
But the Pixel does outperform the iPhone 7's dual camera in every way, it is truly the smartphone camera to beat.

Catchy line, but still the failure Pixel can't beat in zooming and many other conditions.

Truth is no one bought the pixel and no one will. I have yet to see one in the wild.

Meanwhile the next big iPhone update is just down the road and will obliterate the competition, yet again.
 
I can see why.

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Rather get the iPhone SE over any of the iPhone 7 models. Looks better, much cheaper, longer battery life, and the last iPhone to offer the headphone jack.

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Catchy line, but still the failure Pixel can't beat in zooming and many other conditions.

Truth is no one bought the pixel and no one will. I have yet to see one in the wild.

Meanwhile the next big iPhone update is just down the road and will obliterate the competition, yet again.
Yet on the Pixel thread people are complaining about it being back ordered months after the release.

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This someone bought one.
 
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