I can't imagine myself ever needing wired headphones ever again but my wired earbuds are in my tech bag with my dongle which I've never used so if it's ever needed I have it as I'm sure Apple will keep providing them
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I can't imagine myself ever needing wired headphones ever again but my wired earbuds are in my tech bag with my dongle which I've never used so if it's ever needed I have it as I'm sure Apple will keep providing them
Well it clearly isn't wrong, if Apple are still selling high volumes they certainly aren't in any danger of dissapearing
The 2017 iPhone will likely shatter the all time sales record for a phone.
Even the damn SE sold the most out of all the phones in the UK when that was released.
Just because sales like iPad are down doesn't mean Apple are in any danger
Samsung are in far bigger danger than anybody unless they turn things around and get some trust back in their products
They did not buy iphone, because they do not have money for it. Samsung gives enormous subsidies or promos for its clientele. Recently I was in Florida, and Samsung had stand almost in front of Apple store, telling me I can get a watch and some ****** 3d and speaker if I buy their telephone. Another option was tablet free of charge.
Iphone 7 is ****** phone and that is why I keep mine 5gen. I hate the big screens and latest ios and OSX is bloody gimmick and useless.
Iphone 7 is ****** phone and that is why I keep mine 5gen. I hate the big screens and latest ios and OSX is bloody gimmick and useless.
We are still in agreement with time periods. During the period you mentioned, this was still way before their popularity took off.
I personally would of included some of the PPC years, because of Mac designs, but that's me.
I already left
You might want to check on that....there were plenty of phones without the HJ before Apple did it....
After a point mobilephones are more or less same except for the form factor, even there there are many similarities. Like laptop market, it has hit optimum with its current form factors. Beyond regular upgrades there is nothing much revolutionary features can be built. We need to contend with these and help slowing product refresh cycles, reduce cost of ownership by not making the product obselete within two years!! Like Mac let iPhones enjoy 5 years lifespane!
I agree that taking there time to get it right is a good strategy, but Apple's phones were falling behind. It's a shame that the note had their exploding feature, because if they weren't exploding, this article would be showing another dramatic rise of Samsung (my speculation)
But you can't really compare exploding phone vs lack of head phone jack. The Note 7 was a fantastic phone, arguably far superior than the IPhone 7. Samsung made an engineering mistake and has paid dearly. Apple's courage is questionable given no real benefit was given to the user with the removal of the headphone jack. People often point out the lame excuse about water proofing, but many phones have jacks and have a higher water resistant rating. The removal of the jack also made there products in their eco system no longer compatible. The headphones you get on your new iphone can't be used without a dongle on Apple's new pro user laptop. Which is very silly.
I would agree that the dual camera is really good. I really hope to be blown away with the 8, because Samsung phones look mighty good these days when they aren't exploding!
I completely agree and I think the whole "courage" thing would've been justified had Apple included wireless headphones in the iPhone 7's box. That would've been a true statement: "look we believe it's time to say goodbye to the jack. That's why we removed it and the iPhone comes bundled with AirPods, for we believe that the future of audio is wireless". That I would buy. But remove the jack, charge the same absurd amount of $ for it and then sell AirPods for another handful of $? Get the F out of here Phil
On top of that, like you've mentioned, they've made a mess of their ecosystem, which, in my opinion, has always been their stronghold. Everything complemented each other perfectly: Mac + +iPad + iPhone + display + AirPort etc. It all made sense and worked together well.
Now the iPhone comes with Lightining headphones that don't fit the Mac. You need a dongle. For freaking headphones! Maybe Schiller should've reversed his argument - the jack is ancient, but there is a reason it has prevailed in all areas of consumer electronics: it just works! Eureka!
I don't like to jump to conclusions, but
• the iPhone headphone situation
• the mess that is the Mac portfolio (MacBook + MacBook Pro without TouchBar + MacBook Pro with TouchBar - seriously? That's a naming convention? Why not call it MacBook Pro without TouchBar and 2 ports?)
• lack of Apple Display
• rumours of killing AirPort devices
• staled mac Mini and Pro
• the iPencil and Magic Mouse 2 charging solutions, which look like something a lousy PC vendor might have come up with.
All makes me question investing more money in Apple's devices. Simply because the Apple ecosystem loses what it once had and what was a benefit for me.
PS. Before anyone uses this argument: I know I can always go other manufacturers, but I like macOS and Apple's devices. That's why I give a damn and comment here
I was one step away from jumping the ship towards Huawei Mate 9. However i do not feel comfortable knowing that i will have two evils on my phone (China on one end and Google on the other). So i stayed with iPhone but i decided to buy 6S+ instead of iphone7. And the reason is mainly headphone jack? If apple will not bring the headphone jack back, my hope is that in 3-4 years time someone will come up with a proper phone.
The apple pencil 30 minute charge for 15 seconds is the most ingenious solution I've seen for that thing. When the battery on my SP4 pencil does, taking is apart is a PITA as I have to look at the instructions. Plugging it in to a port for 15 seconds for 30 minutes of usage would have been ingenious on Microsofts' part, but it wasn't.I completely agree and I think the whole "courage" thing would've been justified had Apple included wireless headphones in the iPhone 7's box. That would've been a true statement: "look we believe it's time to say goodbye to the jack. That's why we removed it and the iPhone comes bundled with AirPods, for we believe that the future of audio is wireless". That I would buy. But remove the jack, charge the same absurd amount of $ for it and then sell AirPods for another handful of $? Get the F out of here Phil
On top of that, like you've mentioned, they've made a mess of their ecosystem, which, in my opinion, has always been their stronghold. Everything complemented each other perfectly: Mac + +iPad + iPhone + display + AirPort etc. It all made sense and worked together well.
Now the iPhone comes with Lightining headphones that don't fit the Mac. You need a dongle. For freaking headphones! Maybe Schiller should've reversed his argument - the jack is ancient, but there is a reason it has prevailed in all areas of consumer electronics: it just works! Eureka!
I don't like to jump to conclusions, but
• the iPhone headphone situation
• the mess that is the Mac portfolio (MacBook + MacBook Pro without TouchBar + MacBook Pro with TouchBar - seriously? That's a naming convention? Why not call it MacBook Pro without TouchBar and 2 ports?)
• lack of Apple Display
• rumours of killing AirPort devices
• staled mac Mini and Pro
• the iPencil and Magic Mouse 2 charging solutions, which look like something a lousy PC vendor might have come up with.
All makes me question investing more money in Apple's devices. Simply because the Apple ecosystem loses what it once had and what was a benefit for me.
PS. Before anyone uses this argument: I know I can always go other manufacturers, but I like macOS and Apple's devices. That's why I give a damn and comment here
What is the "lack of apple display"? The other items in the list, I don't know, can't comment on the Mac portfolio as I don't use them.
I agree with the moderators on the headphone port. It's not necessarily that they removed it. It's the way they went about telling everyone publically they did, claiming they needed the space in one of the biggest phablets on the market, slating it as ancient technology nobody wants anymore and then they keep it in the next new product they launch.
It shows a complete lack of consistency across its products and makes them out to be the marketing fools they are! I buy Apple products because I like them, not because of the dreadful marketing spin the company puts on its products.
Actually they should just shut the hell up and let their products do the talking. It'll save them looking like embarrassed hypocrites.
It shows a complete lack of consistency across its products and makes them out to be the marketing fools they are! I buy Apple products because I like them, not because of the dreadful marketing spin the company puts on its products.
Actually they should just shut the hell up and let their products do the talking. It'll save them looking like embarrassed hypocrites.
And they would have continued using it till the day they die if it wasn't removed. Old stuff being removed for a new tech is quite normal. Of course people will cry and blla blla blla about it, but then they will get used to the alternative and learn to be happy with it.
By the way, I personally have not used the 3.5mm thingy on the iPhone for nearly 3 years. And I listen to the music every day.
Nope. It does two things, it funnels sound to the microphone for improved Siri, and it equalizes pressure now that the iPhone is watertight. The 7 Plus appears to have more free space, but neither phone has enough room without that spacer to include a headphone jack. So yes, even if it was just a plastic filler block, they still needed more space than the block fills.
I completely agree and I think the whole "courage" thing would've been justified had Apple included wireless headphones in the iPhone 7's box. That would've been a true statement: "look we believe it's time to say goodbye to the jack. That's why we removed it and the iPhone comes bundled with AirPods, for we believe that the future of audio is wireless". That I would buy. But remove the jack, charge the same absurd amount of $ for it and then sell AirPods for another handful of $? Get the F out of here Phil
On top of that, like you've mentioned, they've made a mess of their ecosystem, which, in my opinion, has always been their stronghold. Everything complemented each other perfectly: Mac + +iPad + iPhone + display + AirPort etc. It all made sense and worked together well.
Now the iPhone comes with Lightining headphones that don't fit the Mac. You need a dongle. For freaking headphones! Maybe Schiller should've reversed his argument - the jack is ancient, but there is a reason it has prevailed in all areas of consumer electronics: it just works! Eureka!
I don't like to jump to conclusions, but
• the iPhone headphone situation
• the mess that is the Mac portfolio (MacBook + MacBook Pro without TouchBar + MacBook Pro with TouchBar - seriously? That's a naming convention? Why not call it MacBook Pro without TouchBar and 2 ports?)
• lack of Apple Display
• rumours of killing AirPort devices
• staled mac Mini and Pro
• the iPencil and Magic Mouse 2 charging solutions, which look like something a lousy PC vendor might have come up with.
All makes me question investing more money in Apple's devices. Simply because the Apple ecosystem loses what it once had and what was a benefit for me.
PS. Before anyone uses this argument: I know I can always go other manufacturers, but I like macOS and Apple's devices. That's why I give a damn and comment here
There is no adapter known, nor planned as far as I know, that allows the Lightning headphones to be used on a Mac, or anything else for that matter outside of newer iOS devices.
True. Tim Cook's own statements aren't helping though.
That one about the iPad being all that people need was asinine.
The Iphone is still a hit but the rest of the product line is languishing.
I don't hate Tim but its hard to watch Apple go back to the way it was in the 90's.
I did the same earlier this year; was thinking of waiting, but I really wanted to get a bigger phone. That, the significantly faster processor and the improved camera made it a good decision.
Apple could release a phone that literally teleports you to the person on the other end and most Samsung users would still say it had a "lack of compelling" features.
There was a lot of posts on the MR forum defending Cook for the iPad comment. Many believe this to be true. I do not.
The most ingenious solution is for the pen to not require a battery at all.
Most Wacom pens (which is the technology Samsung uses) are inductively powered by the coordinates grid behind the screen.
Unless Samsung got an exclusive, Apple could've licensed that tech as well.
Right and battery powered bluetooth has its advantages. For example, I can click the eraser on my sp4 to undo the last action two feet away from the computer. I'm sure you can do something similar with the apple pencil. Or you can control the device (thinking aloud) from the apple pencil or sp4 pencil feet away from the device as in presentation style by using the buttons on the sp4 because it's bluetooth. And if these pencils had electronic gyroscopes on them you can virtually write on the devices from many feet away.
So while it "sounds cool" using induction, more possibilities are opened up by bluetooth, imo.
Thinking back to the title of this thread got me to looking at my own collection of phones and thinking now, at this point, if I could keep only one, which would it be?
And at one time the answer would have been my iPhone SE because it was powerful and small and could go everywhere with me and tough, too.
But I do want and appreciate the ability of Samsung phones to record sound in stereo audio.
And now after playing around last night with the Gear VR headset some more, I'm thinking it might be my new black Galaxy S7. Which is a surprise because I hated the gold loaner S7 I used after the first Note 7 recall. That one was buggy and overheated all the time.
I do prefer the look, feel, and construction of my IPhone 7 Plus, and iMessage is the best even with the goofy stickers. As a phone and all around communication device, I prefer it to be my main phone housing my primary phone sim.
But Gear VR has turned out to be addictive. Some of it is colossally bad. But the two haunted house ones I've tried were creepy fun. I couldn't even finish the one I was trying last night because my sister in law wasn't with me to make funny quips to keep me from freaking out. If I ever need to go ghost busting, "Big Sis" is who I'm gonna call.
The shark cage one is pretty realistic because in real life when I go underwater I'm often wearing a snorkel mask anyway. With headphones on and the VR induced sense of motion I feel like I'm really in a shark cage in the ocean, minus the soggy salty wet feeling, lol.
I suffer migraines and vertigo in real life but so far I seem to be the only one in the family who can use VR without getting a headache or some form of VR sickness. I knew being perpetually ditzy would have to serve me someday.
I also found out the S7 is tougher than I thought. I was trying to adjust the headphones into the S7 while it was in the VR headset. The locking mechanism somehow ejected the S7 out and it went flying and hit the hardwood floor. The S7 is all glass. I've seen S7 edges and my husband's Note 7 take lesser tumbles and shatter. But my S7 was fine.
I wish iPhones could do Oculus VR. I well remember posting on this forum against the idea. But having tried the latest generation of phone based VR, I've got to eat more crow and backtrack completely. I am really going to have to learn to NOT dismiss concepts and products without trying them myself first or waiting for better iterations to come out if I don't like the first generation.
And at one time the answer would have been my iPhone SE because it was powerful and small and could go everywhere with me and tough, too.
But I do want and appreciate the ability of Samsung phones to record sound in stereo audio.
And now after playing around last night with the Gear VR headset some more, I'm thinking it might be my new black Galaxy S7. Which is a surprise because I hated the gold loaner S7 I used after the first Note 7 recall. That one was buggy and overheated all the time.
I do prefer the look, feel, and construction of my IPhone 7 Plus, and iMessage is the best even with the goofy stickers. As a phone and all around communication device, I prefer it to be my main phone housing my primary phone sim.
But Gear VR has turned out to be addictive. Some of it is colossally bad. But the two haunted house ones I've tried were creepy fun. I couldn't even finish the one I was trying last night because my sister in law wasn't with me to make funny quips to keep me from freaking out. If I ever need to go ghost busting, "Big Sis" is who I'm gonna call.
The shark cage one is pretty realistic because in real life when I go underwater I'm often wearing a snorkel mask anyway. With headphones on and the VR induced sense of motion I feel like I'm really in a shark cage in the ocean, minus the soggy salty wet feeling, lol.
I suffer migraines and vertigo in real life but so far I seem to be the only one in the family who can use VR without getting a headache or some form of VR sickness. I knew being perpetually ditzy would have to serve me someday.
I also found out the S7 is tougher than I thought. I was trying to adjust the headphones into the S7 while it was in the VR headset. The locking mechanism somehow ejected the S7 out and it went flying and hit the hardwood floor.
The S7 is all glass. I've seen S7 edges and my husband's Note 7 take lesser tumbles and shatter. But my S7 was fine. I wish iPhones could do Oculus VR. I well remember posting on this forum against the idea. But having tried the latest generation of phone based VR, I've got to eat more crow and backtrack completely. I am really going to have to learn to NOT dismiss concepts and products without trying them myself first or waiting for better iterations to come out if I don't like the first generation.
Or if Samsung did the same thing most Apple users would call it a gimmick ?
I mean, I don't know that anything about the iPhone 7 would cause an already Galaxy S7 user to jump ship... nothing about this is all that surprising to me. Perhaps (edit: for sure, based on activiations)those looking to buy a new phone ultimately decided to go with Apple, but it's not like the S7 is an old/aging device in need of replacement.
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I may replace my signature with this!PS. Before anyone uses this argument: I know I can always go other manufacturers, but I like macOS and Apple's devices. That's why I give a damn and comment here
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