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This, also Taptic feedback just makes me subtly love the phone even more.

Not a lot of people mention the new Taptic Engine, which I had the impression was vastly better than anything in the Android camp. I did see some people complaining about their phone giving "too much" vibration feedback (such as during 3D Touch), but other than that, I haven't seen anything concrete to highlight flaws.

Isn't the Taptic Engine a "compelling" reason to upgrade?
 
Really? Because it seems like the most used feature on a phone.

Read carefully. I am saying most people value having a handy phone that's good enough, not one that takes the most amazing pix possible. Only a small percentage of buyers care about the latest improvements in camera quality. The previous generation of phones were quite good enough for selfies and family snaps.
 
Read carefully. I am saying most people value having a handy phone that's good enough, not one that takes the most amazing pix possible. Only a small percentage of buyers care about the latest improvements in camera quality. The previous generation of phones were quite good enough for selfies and family snaps.
Well if your in the general market, yes. If you're into the premium $900 phones, you probably want a stellar camera.
 
i actually traded my s7 edge for the pixel xl. samsung touchwiz was terrible
I have a friend who did the same thing. To many issues with Touchwiz for him. He even had a Note 7 before the S7E and he said that was very glitchy as well. Charging issues was one thing he mentioned.
 
A dependable virtual assistant, wireless charging, 2 day battery, shatterproof body, waterproofing, ...just to get started.

Siri is very reliable. She never fails my queries, although maybe I'm a light user of that? And the right third-party case ensures than iPhone has the rest of those features. So your list is moot in my mind.
 
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The definitive headphone jack post:
If you cannot get on board with the removal of the headphone jack I feel sorry for you. Why would you have 2 "holes" in your phone when you can have one and soon with AirPods and wireless charging there will be none and waterproofness will be so much easier to accomplish.
The audio jack is more than 100 years old - it is time to do something better and more efficient.
There is very limited space in phones because they must be compact enough to carry around, removal of the headphone jack frees up real-estate for new and better technology to come along and fill that void.
There are 2 big arguments that are valid about the removal, but there are VERY SIMPLE fixes for both.
"I can't use the headphones I have now that already use aux." - Yes you can there is an adaptor in the box and there are new headphones that connect directly to the lightning port, if this solution doesn't float your boat, don't buy the phone and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
"I can't charge my phone and listen to music at the same time." - Yes you can for $10 on Amazon you can get a splitter cable lightning to lightning/aux or buy AirPods or ANY other wireless headphone, if these solutions don't tickle your fancy, don't buy the phone and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Samsung is rumoured to also be removing the headphone jack after mocking Apple publicly about it, once again Apple is ahead of the curve in things that matter the most and being innovative. In 2 years people will wonder how it took Apple so long to remove the headphone jack - just watch.

This is a lovely summary of rationalizing the decision. Here's variations should Apple decide to jettison the camera or battery next...

If you cannot get on board with the removal of the camera I feel sorry for you. Why have "warts" on your phone when you can add a much higher quality one with the new modules Apple is offering? Why have a wobbling phone anymore?
Camera technology is well over 100 years old - it is time to do something better and more efficient.
There is very limited space in phones because they must be compact enough to carry around, removal of the camera frees up real-estate for new and better technology to come along and fill that void.
There is 1 big argument that is valid about the removal, but VERY SIMPLE to fix.
"I lose the ability to take pictures with my phone" - But those tiny cameras could never take pictures as good as dedicated cameras and now you can buy add-on camera modules that are as good as full DSLR cameras. This increases picture quality well beyond what could ever be done with those tiny, toy cameras. If this solution doesn't float your boat, don't buy the phone and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Samsung is rumoured to also be removing the camera after mocking Apple publicly about it, once again Apple is ahead of the curve in things that matter the most and being innovative. In 2 years people will wonder how it took Apple so long to remove the camera- just watch.


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If you cannot get on board with the removal of the battery I feel sorry for you. People have always griped about battery capacity- too much, too little, etc. Now people can get whatever amount of battery they want with the variety of Apple battery attachment options.
Battery technology is more than 100 years old - it is time to do something better and more efficient.
There is very limited space in phones because they must be compact enough to carry around, removal of the battery frees up real-estate for new and better technology to come along and fill that void.
And since batteries have taken up the bulk of the space inside the phone, look how much thinner & lighter a battery-less iPhone is now. Wow!
There is 1 big argument that is valid about the removal, but there is a VERY SIMPLE fix.
"I can't use the iPhone at all that doesn't have a battery" - Yes you can. There are battery pack adaptors so that everyone can get whatever amount of battery one wants. If this solution doesn't float your boat, don't buy the phone and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Samsung is rumoured to also be removing the battery after mocking Apple publicly about it, once again Apple is ahead of the curve in things that matter the most and being innovative. In 2 years people will wonder how it took Apple so long to remove the battery - just watch.


The same can be applied to the rest of the phone. Video screens is a very old technology too. It would be easy to offer screens as a separate option, choose your own or "don't let the door hit you on your way out."

The point is that it's not hard to rationalize an iPhone made of rusty razor blades if we want to do that. But it's passionate rationale justifying anything that Apple wants to do- even stuff that seems to work against most consumer wants or consumer utility- that will eventually have us paying the full price- or higher- for an empty box, then gushing about the absolute genius of assembling the iPhone 14 from various accessories all sold separately.

If there was tangible consumer gain for jettisoning the headphone jack from this ONE Apple device, I've still not seen anyone post it. Water can't be fooled into staying out by getting rid of a small round hole next to a much larger rectangular one. Bluetooth "the future" doesn't work with so many other things in "the present." Lightning can't connect to anything beyond Apple iDevices and iDevice accessories, including Apple's own Macs. Dongle in the box still comes with all of the hassles of dongles, except having to pay for that one dongle. Etc. What did we consumers gain from this change?

Even if we want to cite a little new hardware inside the phone, "making room" could have also been accomplished by adding a millimeter or two to fit in the new hardware while keeping the thoroughly ubiquitous, "just works" (with anything) non-proprietary, headphone jack. Those that wanted to embrace Bluetooth or Lightning for their connection ALREADY HAD IT.
 
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Android phones have that feature where you're watching a video and you look up then, boom, the video pauses. Apple only recently came out with pause when you remove AirPods, and they're a $170 upgrade!

Also, Apple comes out with a dual lens camera but, ZOMG, no 3D? Android's been doing that for years. Remember the ping pong commercials?

You can even fist bump an Android to transfer files. Now that's innovation my ass.

I mean, none of those features are gimmicks that make Android look more feature rich but never make it into future phones because they're pointless and poorly implemented, right?
 
Just look at the battery life on the Earpods(AirPods:)) for example compared to Samsung's own wireless buds, and bear in mind Samsung are in the "slap a bigger battery on" camp.

It's 90 minutes vs 300.
I agree with a lot of the other things you said, but take a little exception with your depiction here. It's easy to criticize based on just looking at battery v battery. It ignores the functionality of the products though. The AirPods are wireless headphones. The Icon X's are wireless headphones, fitness tracker, and music player. It's a fairly easy conclusion to make that the AirPods are going to have a better battery life.

To Apple's credit, leaving out the fitness and music elements was the smartest decision they could have made. I'd even go as far as saying it was "innovative". Everyone else just took the smartwatch concept and moved it to the ear. Apple realized (this is just me extemporizing) that "Hey, we have this damn watch for fitness. There's no need to stick fitness in the ear." Brilliant. Abso-freaking-lutely brilliant. Not only because it was the right decision, but primarily because I agree with it.:D Pretty sure other manufacturers are going to quickly intro "wireless" wireless buds that are only wireless buds... and not screenless smartwatch facsimiles. Aaaaaaaaaaand tying it all back together... we will then start to see comparable battery life.
 
The best camera is the one you have with you ;)

I found that in a pinch my iPhone takes great photos. I would much prefer my Olympus but at times that's not feasible.

Yeah as a freelance Magazine Photographer my iPhone shots have made it to print and web for memorable events that occurred while I happened to be holding my phone. There have been other occasions when my cameras had either a 300MM or 70-200 and something happened far too quickly, and too close for me to swap to a proper wide angle.

A Phone is a nice thing to have in that kind of a pinch, and I would argue that most any true photographer would see value in one.
 
Kicked off by Apple?

Do you pay attention to the tech world at all? Intel has been pushing since last year at industry events for USB C to be the new audio standard, at their own developer conference:

https://www.engadget.com/2016/04/27/intel-usb-c-digital-audio/
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016

MacRumors even covered it, well before the iPhone 7 was released:
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/28/intel-replace-headphone-jack-usb-c-audio/ <whoa, MONTHS before Apple Intel was already pushing for this.

I completely pay attention and know full well about the push for USB3C as the Intel platform digital standard for audio. Had Apple jettisoned proprietary Lightning to embrace USB3C, I think the whole headphone jack ejection move would have been much more palatable for many. Instead, we have iDevices clinging to a proprietary jack while Macs favor Intel's option or 3.5mm and almost everything else in the world still using 3.5mm.

Apple doing it in iDevices was simply a major move with far-reaching ramifications for us Apple people. For the next 5+ years, we're pretty much obligated to carry at least 2 dongles to retain relatively easy connections to any audio devices we encounter... or just do without. For what exactly? What did we consumers get out of this decision?
 
Does the the design of a phone make the phone better than others if it does not work better than others?

In my opinion its whats inside that matters the most, does the software work good.

No matter how good a phone is designed, if it does not work well, in your eyes it looks ugly.
 
That's because people need and use the headphone jack. Schiller said it took courage to remove the headphone jack, yet I can no longer listen to music with my headphones and have it charging. Also if it took courage, why did they include it in the new MacBook Pro?

Because the reasoning for removing the headphone jack was to increase its water resistance, most people don't take their laptops out in the rain.

But, supposedly the longer life battery on the 7 negates the need to constantly charge the phone. You figure some third party vendor would come up with a "charge the phone while listening to headphones" modification.
 
There was no headphone jack on the Apple Watch - and no one who used their Watch to listen to music said "damn it's annoying not to have wired headphones". Your phone is far more likely to be farther away than your wrist - on your nightstand charging or in your back pocket, etc.
There's no headphone jack on the watch because no one with an active brain cell would design a tether from wrist to head. It's too stupid to even contemplate. The analogy is bad, really bad.
 
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The bottom line of this article is that both Samsung and Apple are companies that, apart from their moloch size, you could pee on.
I can only support that notion.
It's just unimaginable that - given their size and perspective - they are unable to bring zillions of people anything more than a temporary escape from charging cradle to charging cradle.
 
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What will truly be a shock is if the rumors are true and the iPhone 7S is the same phone again, with the redesigned phone being a premium device.

Can you imagine? Four years of the same tired, uninspiring hardware design.
well it isn't true as it will be a new design, glass back, wireless charging

just because there will likely be two lcd phones doesn't mean it won't be new design
 
To use the Watch, you pretty much need the phone in close proximity. One doesn't need a duplication of a headphone jack if they have the jack in their pocket.

To use iPhone-dependant features of Apple Watch, all you need is an iPhone on the same wifi network as you. So if your phone is charging in the next room, you will receive calls on your Watch.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204681
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There's no headphone jack on the watch because no one with an active brain cell would design a tether from wrist to head. It's too stupid to even contemplate. The analogy is bad, really bad.

Suit yourself. Then why tether your head to what is sometimes in your pocket, sometimes on the desk charging, sometimes in your jacket?
 
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