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And while we talk about the Note 7 exploding, the same is happening to the S7/S7 Edge.

How can these journalists keep comparing Apple and Samsung products like this? There is absolutely no comparison between a flagship phone being banned from airplanes and people being disappointed by "old design" and removal of the headphone jackstick.

I would have expected journalists unloading with full speed on Samsung for what is clearly an intentional decision which left too little space for the battery inside the entire S7 lineup, which is right now putting the owners in jeopardy. There are millions of owners and I feel like I am watching a train wreck in slow motion, just waiting for people to get hurt.

If I had the editorial responsibility on any major newspaper or web page writing about tech, I would immediately pull every score given to the S7 lineup and declare it a total failure. And I would park some of my most serious reporters outside Samsung HQ, so they could ask questions like "Why do those batteries blow up", "Do you guys here at Samsung have an unhealthy culture?" and "Have you discussed your values as a company after this failure?".

No, I'm not exaggerating. Samsung has basically released millions of potential bombs and shipped them all across the world. How can journalists compare that with Apple?

If we really have to compare these two companies, it goes down to this:

Apple releases products with proven capabilities, which are refined constantly.
Samsung releases beta products, which bring potential danger to the user.

Disclaimer: No, I am not an Apple fanboy. I own three Samsung monitors and several Apple iPhones/iPads, some of which have several components made by Samsung. These two companies both make fantastic products, but the tech journalists need to hold both companies to the same, high standards. And I am sick and tired of these journalists treating Samsung like the underdog, because they want Apple to feel the competition. Right now, there is no competition - Apple's products are so incredibly good and Samsung's are dangerous.
 
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The major reasons I'm with iphone is mostly to accommodate other iOS users and compatibility with Macs.

I would fault a lack of sales (if there's any to this) to Apple's marketing. It stinks. People seem to like these commercials that aim to tug at the heart but it does nothing to squash any ignorance among users. Of course they didn't help matters removing the headphone jack either. Apple makes a point that MBP users rely on it for more than just audio. So do iphone users.

This obsession with thin and lighter runs counter to what people actually want. Jobs had a knack for knowing. I'm not sure anyone at Apple now has much of a clue. The lack of a strong central voice is hurting them.
 
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Love the conflicting narratives: iPhone 7 is a smash hit with help from Samsung batteries vs Apple unable take advantage of Samsung battery woes with lackluster iPhone 7.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle there but mostly users are locked in to their phone OS of choice at this point. The vast majority of sales are scheduled replacements by existing users not switchers. It would take a revolutionary phone to do that which I don't think Apple or Samsung has the will, creativity, to intellectual heft to accomplish. They each have a financially sustaining model by pushing minor annual updates and are looking for easier ways to pick customers pockets like subscriptions than pushing the envelope with truly fresh h/w.
 
I own 2 semi-pro cameras (Nikon DS 5100 and Panasonic Lumix G7) and frequently I find myself just using my iPhone for any number of reasons - ease of use being primary, a lot of times I'm in places where I can't use the "pro gear," and at the end of the day I have "pro stuff," but I'm not a "pro shooter." If I can do convention coverage on an iPhone instead of lugging around heavy gear all day I'll do that. People have different reasons for wanting different things and in this day and age, there's NO REASON Apple couldn't put better cameras into their phones.
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Fair enough but you said it was removed to make the phone thinner. Which clearly wasn't the case.
I said "they removed it to make space in a tiny device". Apple hasn't slimmed the 4.7" and 5.5" phones, ever. I call them tiny devices compared to a iPad or MacBook. They basically stuffed it which a bunch of stuff that (i think) benefits the user experience more than a headphone jack.
 
So at what point does not erupting into a chemically fueled fireball become a compelling feature?

Kind of reminds me of those diehards that wanted to keep their Note 7's because "it's the best phone I've ever had" or "My phone is fine!"

...as they slam the door of their '78 Ford Pinto in my face...
 
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Condemnation, really? Might want to tone down the hyperbole a bit....
They started it with the hyperbole. They could have just said they needed the space for something more important and we've included an adaptor as a workaround but they also had to rubbish the socket in an attempt to justify the decision.

It makes them look a bit stupid when the same "dinosaur" socket is retailed for the next big product update.
 
Really? Cutting quality control on purpose deserves some slack...

Apple wanting a truly wireless future and planned for it vs Samsung who is trying to make a quick buck cut corners and put people's lives in danger.
What evidence do you have that Samsung cuts quality-control corners? They got one phone wrong. They admitted the mistake and took the necessary steps to rectify it.
 
And while we talk about the Note 7 exploding, the same is happening to the S7/S7 Edge.

How can these journalists keep comparing Apple and Samsung products like this? There is absolutely no comparison between a flagship phone being banned from airplanes and people being disappointed by "old design" and removal of the headphone jackstick.
Personally I'd rather buy an innovative phone that might explode over the same old phone with a tired design. And yes I realize I'm probably in the minority with this.

OLED Fire >> LCD Giant Bezels & Terrible Color Choices
 
I'm glad Apple is waiting and taking their time with the redesign. Remember - Apple is ever first, but always the best.

People get upset over a headphone jack, but not over an exploding phone. And yet people question the values of Apple and not Samsung.

I would argue the dual camera / telescopic zoom is a major feature as the jump in camera quality between the 6s is quite large.


The vast majority of people don't care about their phone having the absolutely greatest possible camera.
 
Just purchased an iphone 7plus. Upgrading from a 6. Hopefully will not be dissappointed. Still planning on getting the 8 next year if its a new design.
I just did the same upgrade. The 6S features along with the 7 features make it worthwhile, but it feels like a 1-generation upgrade. Also the screen size on the plus is nice I've already completely adjusted.
 
And while we talk about the Note 7 exploding, the same is happening to the S7/S7 Edge.

How can these journalists keep comparing Apple and Samsung products like this? There is absolutely no comparison between a flagship phone being banned from airplanes and people being disappointed by "old design" and removal of the headphone jackstick.

I would have expected journalists unloading with full speed on Samsung for what is clearly an intentional decision which left too little space for the battery inside the entire S7 lineup, which is right now putting the owners in jeopardy. There are millions of owners and I feel like I am watching a train wreck in slow motion, just waiting for people to get hurt.

If I had the editorial responsibility on any major newspaper or web page writing about tech, I would immediately pull every score given to the S7 lineup and declare it a total failure. And I would park some of my most serious reporters outside Samsung HQ, so they could ask questions like "Why do those batteries blow up", "Do you guys here at Samsung have an unhealthy culture?" and "Have you discussed your values as a company after this failure?".

No, I'm not exaggerating. Samsung has basically released millions of potential bombs and shipped them all across the world. How can journalists compare that with Apple?

If we really have to compare these two companies, it goes down to this:

Apple releases products with proven capabilities, which are refined constantly.
Samsung releases beta products, which bring potential danger to the user.

Disclaimer: No, I am not an Apple fanboy. I own three Samsung monitors and several Apple iPhones/iPads, some of which have several components made by Samsung. These two companies both make fantastic products, but the tech journalists need to hold both companies to the same, high standards. And I am sick and tired of these journalists treating Samsung like the underdog, because they want Apple to feel the competition. Right now, there is no competition - Apple's products are so incredibly good and Samsung's are dangerous.

How many S7's are exploding versus Note 7's?

All recent (past 2-3 years, I'd say) tech hardware can be considered betas, and we're all their testers -- Apple included. Their hardware (and software) is arguably buggier than their competitors.

Saying you use Samsung monitors and devices with internal components made by Samsung doesn't dismiss what you're saying you aren't.
 
I would argue that the primary thing holding the iPhone back now is the software. The iPhone hardware looks and feels great, as it has always been.

It seems like ever since the redesign that was iOS 7, Apple has made very few substantial changes to iOS. Three major software releases are a lot of releases to only have a few substantial changes. Also, they have steadily introduced bugs to iOS -- many of which remain despite many, many OS updates.

If the next major release of iOS is more of the same, Apple will continue to fall further behind and frustrate a growing number of their users.
 
Consumer expectations are out of control, and this headline is total bull. Articles like this completely miss the software side of things, which DOES improve each year, even if the hardware is very similar from generation to generation.

Seriously, what "wow" features are missing from the iPhone? What does an Android alternative have over the iPhone? Please list them.
 
They started it with the hyperbole. They could have just said they needed the space for something more important and we've included an adaptor as a workaround but they also had to rubbish the socket in an attempt to justify the decision.

It makes them look a bit stupid when the same "dinosaur" socket is retailed for the next big product update.
I mean they did say that. But interesting analysis.
 
Another analyst, another speculation. By now most people have their preferences, iOS or Android. Not much is going to change that. I don't see much wow from anyone. The smartphone market has matured. Many folks are holding onto to their devices longer because it's just not necessary to get a new phone every year or even every two years. My iPhone 6 is doing fine. I can wait.
Apple survived and thrived for years without a larger phone while everyone was predicting their demise.
As for the headphone jack, my daughter has a new 7 and she says she doesn't miss the headphone jack at all.
That said, I think Apple will make a mistake if they introduce another "super tier" of a premium phone with all the things people want: edge to edge, OLED, better camera, etc and also introduce a 7s.
 
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