iPhone 7s Plus Bare Logic Board Surfaces With A11 Chip and Intel Modem Markings

[Sefstah]

Gawd I hope it's changed out. This Intel modem in my 7+ is TERRIBLE. I have to reboot often to get WiFi working 100%. So sad. Hopefully it's an upgraded model with better speed/quality/low signal work-ability.

Why don't you return it?

 

[tmoney468]

+1 on the POS Intel modem. Nothing like getting a worse signal on my 7 than my wife's 6s.

Also have the issue where cellular just stops working all together and I don't know until I try to access the internet. I've gone a couple hours missing phone calls and texts due to this. Only recourse is to reboot the phone

 

[magbarn]

Despite that, Qualcomm model still performed 30% better in low signal areas, which are the areas where this matters most. That's the difference between having slow data vs unusuable/no data

http://cellularinsights.com/iphone7/
The gap between the two variants is consistent and north of 30% again in favor of the Qualcomm variant.

EXACTLY, when it makes a difference between being able to place a call or not or "No Service" it becomes a big deal on a flagship phone.

Why don't you return it?

Because you'll get the same Intel equipped iphone 7? Apple at first allowed exchanges for qualcomm equipped models, but that was nixed after a month or so.

WiFi has nothing to do with the Cellular modem.... For WiFi Apple is using Broadcom as usual, like they have for all their devices including Mac's for the past 10 years..
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That doesn't make any sense. All tests points to the Qualcomm equipped iPhone 7 / 7 Plus to have superior speed while in good coverage, but the Intel modem actually fared better in dodgy conditions. The Qualcomm one ended up slower in low signal areas compared to the Intel one. Sure you just didn't read into the bias and make up your own reality?

Nope, as when both my 6s+ and a SE (both with qualcomm modems) outperform my wife's iphone 7+ (that already has been exchanged, both phones have the same coverage), there's a problem, I'm not the only one either with this issue. Unfortunately by the time we tried to get my wife's iphone 7+ swapped, it was already late March and Apple stopped swapping for qualcomm phones by then. The GSM only iphone 7's also go for less on the used market and are harder to sell than the CDMA ones for obvious reasons.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Yes I also can't believe its 10th anniversary iPhone and they make the same front panel layout now 4 years in a row.

Perhaps Apple considers it perfection and will never change....

 

[now i see it]

My prediction:

There will no more Qualcomm modems in any iPhone from now on. The two companies are at war. Qualcomm is trying to block the sale of all existing iPhones as it is and Apple is refusing to pay royalties. It's Intel from now on.

 

[brian3uk]

My prediction:

There will no more Qualcomm modems in any iPhone from now on. The two companies are at war. Qualcomm is trying to block the sale of all existing iPhones as it is and Apple is refusing to pay royalties. It's Intel from now on.

That wont happen in the US until Verizon and Sprint completely eliminate their CDMA networks.

 

[Candlelight]

There;'s no point in having an announcement in September, we pretty much know everything that's coming.

Best just put them on sale on Monday and be done with it.

 

[hasanahmad]

Not sure how you've come to that conclusion

You have a 4K front and back Camera, you have a higher screen resolution than the iPhone 7S+, you have apps using AR with more intensity. the Quality of display will be higher and that needs more memory and processing power. because the iPhone 7S has lower quality in comparison, it will perform on those same apps better unless the iPhone 8 processor is faster

 

[fourthtunz]

Disposable income is a fine thing to have.

Meanwhile, my car is sitting in my driveway because I can't afford to get it fixed. Gotta pay bills and buy groceries.

And that's reality. But at the same time we all prioritize. I have friends that have the cheapest phone
and have the 55" tv (rent a center) and pay $125 a month or more for cable and internet
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The phone can always be faster ... for web browsing and consuming content ... for editing 4K video that you took with the phone ... for playing the latest games. You're being a little short-sighted.

Exactly! and if you're running music software/synths it can't hurt to have a faster processor.
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Who in their right mind would buy a 7S (6SSS), when they could get a S8 for the same outlay? It’s either a iPhone 8, or nothing for me this year.

Who knows the 7s may be less and, an S8 is not an iPhone and who wants to deal with android?
No thanks.

 

[Rob_2811]

You have a 4K front and back Camera, you have a higher screen resolution than the iPhone 7S+, you have apps using AR with more intensity. the Quality of display will be higher and that needs more memory and processing power. because the iPhone 7S has lower quality in comparison, it will perform on those same apps better unless the iPhone 8 processor is faster

Where has the higher resolution come from? I haven't heard anything about them increasing the screen resolution.

Memory has nothing much to do with the resolution of the display anyway and there is nothing to suggest that the iPhone 8s performance will be inferior when running certain apps even intensive AR stuff. More than likely the 7s just won't utilise the full performance of the silicon and the iPhone 8 will.

 

[huggyb]

why is there a cutout for the home button? the 7 is just an indentation in the glass display, not an actual button. This can't be accurate, unless they decided to go back to a physical button??

 

[Nixle]

why is there a cutout for the home button? the 7 is just an indentation in the glass display, not an actual button. This can't be accurate, unless they decided to go back to a physical button??

Check the teardown of the iPhone 7, there's actually a cut out for the button on the front panel.

 

[JosephAW]

Maybe Apple will introduce the Mac Mini with the A11 as its core. As they migrate from x86 in the next few years.

 

[antonis]

So, besides the iPhone 8 or whatever it'll be called, there is absolutely no effort for the regular models to catch up with the competition ? Not even a slight reduce of the bezels or something ?

 

[Agent OrangeZ]

Fake. The fingernails are not long enough...

 

[recoil80]

So now your phone can run facebook and snapchat faster? aewsome!!1

Machine Learning and AR.
A faster chip could help taking even better pictures by analysing the scene. There was a rumour about that a few weeks ago, it was related to iPhone 8 but I believe it will make it to the 7s as well since they'll share the same SoC.

It may be time for me to switch to the bigger display, moving from the 6s to the 7s+
I just hope they'll introduce the upgrade program to my country, so I'll take the 7s+ this year and hopefully the new OLED model in 2018, no hurry for me to have OLED

 

[vmachiel]

It states the model in the article, 7360, so yes it's the same type. I am not a fan of one phone model working exceptionally better in low-medium coverage areas, than the other. It goes beyond theoretical max speed.

I am not a fan of Qualcomm either, but if their product is better, I couldn't care less how much other businesses hate them. I'm sure Intel's top of the line modem is just as good as the Qualcomm modems, but unless Apple starts actually using that, the Qualcomm's are better.

I see, I missed the model number. Still, never had an issue, so I still think it'll be fine.

 

[recoil80]

So, besides the iPhone 8 or whatever it'll be called, there is absolutely no effort for the regular models to catch up with the competition ? Not even a slight reduce of the bezels or something ?

Well, they're reducing the bezel on iPhone 8, 7s and 7s+ will basically be the same as iPhone 7 with improved internals, like all S models have always been.
Eventually all their lineup will be bezel free, I'm not sure if 2018 will be the year, maybe 2019 but this year they'll offer at least one model with almost edge-to-edge display

 

[antonis]

Well, they're reducing the bezel on iPhone 8, 7s and 7s+ will basically be the same as iPhone 7 with improved internals, like all S models have always been.
Eventually all their lineup will be bezel free, I'm not sure if 2018 will be the year, maybe 2019 but this year they'll offer at least one model with almost edge-to-edge display

This is very true, all "S" models had only internal changes/upgrades so far. However, I was hoping from apple to show a bit better reflexes this year, since the competition is moving fast to the new design (the iPhone 8 is rumored to be out of reach for most people due to price, but we'll see).

 

[blagovest]

There is nothing PRO in whatever phones Apple anounces in Sept.

 

[Falhófnir]

The phone can always be faster ... for web browsing and consuming content ... for editing 4K video that you took with the phone ... for playing the latest games. You're being a little short-sighted.

Well…I do a lot of Keynote and Adobe app work on my iPad. I also develop ML and AR based apps, so that's kind of processor intensive. Those apps are targeted to every-day people, so they'll enjoy the boost.

Its not all social networking.

The bolded being the operative word, iPad has a larger usable area for doing work which might need more power, iPhone is a small screen for ultra mobile use, generally social media when you need it, a bit of web browsing, some casual gaming (that's probably the most intensive thing I can think of that you might do on an iPhone, and yeah I guess you can argue a more powerful phone allows for better games to be developed, but for now I'd say the existing models aren't wanting for power for this purpose).

I'll give you web content does get more demanding over time, but not that much more demanding in a year, so again, I'd pose the question, wouldn't a 10% increase (probably a bigger jump in absolute terms than the a7 to a8) be sufficient coupled with lower power consumption being the main focus? And remember the other benefit of lower power consumption is that you can run the demanding games for longer too, it'd be making the power the chip can deliver available for a longer period of use away from a wall socket (which is what the iPhone is designed to be - an ultra mobile computing solution).

All of this is moot though, as we don't know what Apple has done for the a11 yet, they could have found a way to create a chip twice as fast using only 10% of the power.

 

[UL2RA]

The bolded being the operative word, iPad has a larger usable area for doing work which might need more power, iPhone is a small screen for ultra mobile use, generally social media when you need it, a bit of web browsing, some casual gaming (that's probably the most intensive thing I can think of that you might do on an iPhone, and yeah I guess you can argue a more powerful phone allows for better games to be developed, but for now I'd say the existing models aren't wanting for power for this purpose).

I'll give you web content does get more demanding over time, but not that much more demanding in a year, so again, I'd pose the question, wouldn't a 10% increase (probably a bigger jump in absolute terms than the a7 to a8) be sufficient coupled with lower power consumption being the main focus? And remember the other benefit of lower power consumption is that you can run the demanding games for longer too, it'd be making the power the chip can deliver available for a longer period of use away from a wall socket (which is what the iPhone is designed to be - an ultra mobile computing solution).

All of this is moot though, as we don't know what Apple has done for the a11 yet, they could have found a way to create a chip twice as fast using only 10% of the power.

Quit while you're behind.

 

[Falhófnir]

Quit while you're behind.

What? You can't just declare yourself the winner of a debate Good grief. If you don't want to debate, then why even bother replying to my post anyway? Just ignore what I said and move on. Really all you've done is show you have no comeback to what I've said, which of course is true, as I've made the wider point of whether it is diminishing returns, and whether the bigger returns are on efficency, not the specific about the iPhone definitely having more than enough performance to last it forever.

 

[UL2RA]

What? You can't just declare yourself the winner of a debate Good grief. If you don't want to debate, then why even bother replying to my post anyway? Just ignore what I said and move on. Really all you've done is show you have no comeback to what I've said, which of course is true, as I've made the wider point of whether it is diminishing returns, and whether the bigger returns are on efficency, not the specific about the iPhone definitely having more than enough performance to last it forever.

There was nothing to win. You don't have an argument because this isn't about opinions. Some people need the processing power. Just because many don't is irrelevant. 90% of computer owners won't stress their computers either. That doesn't mean computers shouldn't get faster.

 

[Sefstah]

EXACTLY, when it makes a difference between being able to place a call or not or "No Service" it becomes a big deal on a flagship phone.


Because you'll get the same Intel equipped iphone 7? Apple at first allowed exchanges for qualcomm equipped models, but that was nixed after a month or so.



Nope, as when both my 6s+ and a SE (both with qualcomm modems) outperform my wife's iphone 7+ (that already has been exchanged, both phones have the same coverage), there's a problem, I'm not the only one either with this issue. Unfortunately by the time we tried to get my wife's iphone 7+ swapped, it was already late March and Apple stopped swapping for qualcomm phones by then. The GSM only iphone 7's also go for less on the used market and are harder to sell than the CDMA ones for obvious reasons.

Then live with it and stop complaining.