Wirelessly charging headphones? You know, like the billions of headphones that exist today, that don't require charging?
Not charging >>>>>>>> charging
For Apple - $$$$ >>>>>>>>>> customer usability
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iPhone 7's Secondary Speaker Holes May Be Purely Cosmetic
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Not charging >>>>>>>> charging
For Apple - $$$$ >>>>>>>>>> customer usability
If your not happy with wireless headphones and you don't like the idea of lightning headphones either, then don't buy the iPhone 7 and or move to another smartphone, who in maybe a year or more will also remove the headphone jack until it's not longer in use.
I acknowledged as much in my post. The space from the headphone jack may help make the speaker louder though, in the same way as the empty spaces in the iPads Pro. All I'm saying is it's possible and we should all just wait to find out what the benefits are.
No it won't. And it's not worth the removal of the headphone jack alone, even if it did.
All this shows is that Tim can't say that "This is something only Apple could do".Nothing new here.
Even cars have dual exhaust exits but only one with an actual exhaust pipe...
Age of the looks fellas...
But this dumb design by Mercedes doesn't make Apple's any less dumb.
Yep, you do keep moving the bar. Like when someone talks about Apps you come up with some obscure pro iPad app and say since it's not on android, iOS is better.
This is so funny because hasn't it always been Apple doesn't compete on Spec, they compare on features?
Since you brought it up, the 2 CPU options on the note 7 have Geekbench results of:
Single Core: 2327 and 2021 Multi Core: 5455 and 6316
The Apple A9 in the iPhone 6s has Single Core: 2537 and Multi Core: 4413.
Apple gives you a dual core CPU, Samsung gives you a quad core, so these results aren't surprising. Apple has a slight edge on single core, samsung has a huge edge on multi core. The quad core Samsung is a far superior chip.
If you want, you can feel free to look those up. It does shoot 4k video though, and the next model s8 in the Spring will also have a full 4k AMOLED screen compared to the next iPhone which will still have a 1080p LCD.
But you're only proving my point. In your mind, the Galaxy can beat the iPhone across the board, but if you can find one little way the iPhone wins, it means the galaxy is not comparable.
No. I'm not saying the Note is "as good as the iPhone". That makes it sound like the Note 7 is a fringe device playing catchup. I'm saying the Note 7 is a better piece of hardware in every major way. You're nit-picking looking for obscure little checkboxes where the iPhone wins and then saying since there's something the Galaxy doesn't match, it hasn't caught the iPhone yet at all.
Then why are you asking for a Stylus?
The galaxy s7 has a 5.1" 1440p AMOLED. It's 0.17 taller and 0.1" wider than an iPhone 6s but the screen is 17% larger.
The iPhone 6s is a 1334x750 LCD. The galaxy s7 screen has more than 3.6 as many pixels as the iPhone 6s. iPhone 6s has 318ppi, galaxy s7 has 577ppi.
Plus the galaxy s7 has all the other features I've mentioned about the note 7 except for the stylus. The Note 7 is the phablet, the s7 is the phone. It's Apple that plays the game of taking away features on the smaller device.
Also, the Galaxy s7 is a lot cheaper than the iPhone 6s+ and has 64 gig of storage in the base model.
I imagine like many others, I'm considering if my 6s is my last iPhone. I hated Android when I had it ~5 years ago but maybe it's to the point now that the trade-offs are no longer worth it in the iPhone's favor.
I like the flexibility of a headphone jack. I like not having to carry around an additional dongle anytime I think I may need to plug in a 1/8" stereo connector. I don't want my iPhone to be any slimmer. It's already hard enough to hold, even WITH a case! Why do they stress over an extra millimeter of thickness when everyone is just going to put a thick case on it anyway? Leave the headphone jack for versatility. I think we're a good 5-10 years away from actually being at a point where it can be abandoned.
I just don't see this as innovation like it was to get rid of the floppy on the G3, or optical drives on the laptop lines. Music is oftentimes a social and sharing experience, and you want to be able to connect to Joe's home stereo that only has analog line-in, Josh's car stereo that only has analog line-in, AND Rob's Bluetooth speakers in his house -- all without carrying around an extra dongle.
And dear God, potentially replacing the headphone jack with a faux speaker grill -- or even a second speaker, on the same side as the other, less than an inch away. Seriously?
I like the flexibility of a headphone jack. I like not having to carry around an additional dongle anytime I think I may need to plug in a 1/8" stereo connector. I don't want my iPhone to be any slimmer. It's already hard enough to hold, even WITH a case! Why do they stress over an extra millimeter of thickness when everyone is just going to put a thick case on it anyway? Leave the headphone jack for versatility. I think we're a good 5-10 years away from actually being at a point where it can be abandoned.
I just don't see this as innovation like it was to get rid of the floppy on the G3, or optical drives on the laptop lines. Music is oftentimes a social and sharing experience, and you want to be able to connect to Joe's home stereo that only has analog line-in, Josh's car stereo that only has analog line-in, AND Rob's Bluetooth speakers in his house -- all without carrying around an extra dongle.
And dear God, potentially replacing the headphone jack with a faux speaker grill -- or even a second speaker, on the same side as the other, less than an inch away. Seriously?
You're assuming a lot. I'm not looking to nit pick, but I do want more proof of the Note 7 superiority than it manages to include the headphone jack, and a stylus, and an SD slot, which is the general claim you and others make here.
You still haven't addressed the battery life. But I suppose I can look that up. Of course, I'm very happy with my SE, and am not necessarily looking to replace it, so not really interested in looking up the specs, since I'm not making the argument. What I am interested in, is whether those phones squeeze all that extra stuff into comparably sized phones at the cost of any features or performance compared to the iPhone 6s. If they do, then at least one theory about Apple needing the internal space is moot. Certainly a faster processor, a better display, more features, and more base storage at a lower price, in only a slightly larger package makes for a compelling argument. Again there's still the battery life, and actual performance in real world app usage which tend to matter more than anything else, but I'm getting a better perspective than I had.
So far I still don't have enough information, and it's getting confusing being discussed this way. So I'll continue to question it until it's presnted in a head to head comparison, or I become curious enough to look it up myself, or Apple announces the next iPhone and we see what they've actually done in a few short weeks. Chances are it will be the latter, and then the debate can start all over again, but at least people won't be able to assume rumors as facts.
You mean like, dropping my SSH connection after 3 minutes of working with another app? Yes, you're right, that's superb multitasking!
At least Android lets the pig out of the cage, unlike iOS.
But don't you see, were already at the point where someone will always have to carry a dongle around to be prepared for anything. I have BT speakers in my house, office, and car. I recently rented a car on a trip that didn't have a USB port or BT, only a 3.5mm jack. I stopped at a convenience store in hopes of picking up a cheap one, but they didn't have one. They did have a rack of Lightning cables though. So I wasn't able to use my iPhone on that trip.
And truly, if I were faced with using my headphones in multiple environments, I would buy a cable for my new digital interface headphones that has several built-in ports to accomodate whatever I may encounter. Yes it's one more thing to pay for, but it's eleminating the convenience issue you have with it -- something I'm already forced to do unless I want to travel with a bag full of dongles to accomodate whatever I may encounter.
You also must not have been around when the floppy drive was replaced, because while it was never going to be the future, it was in widespread use, and the USB port was not even remotely ready to replace it. Apple cause its customers wide spread inconvenience for years with that decision due to the paucity of USB ports in use, limited choice and availability of USB devices, and high cost of devices and thumb drives, and CD media. An 8MB thumb drive cost $40 in 1998 (that's $60 in modern dollars, almost $8/MB). And to use it on any other computer required a dongle, and a software driver which were often buggy and incompatible with most versions of Windows OS in then current use. Floppy a by comparison were less than 50 cents/MB and were universally accessible around the world without buying any additional hardware.
This is really very similar in many ways, especially if you look 5 years down the road and realize that most audio connections will be made wirelessly from mobile devices. Indeed most connections will be made wirelessly, including power. Data already is for the most part. And that's the future ... Not 3.5mm, whether Android manages to keep up with Apple and continue to include them or not.
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Pretty much this. I'm a big fan, but lately, Apple's been falling behind, and they deserve all the criticism IMO.
Nothing new here.
Even cars have dual exhaust exits but only one with an actual exhaust pipe...
Age of the looks fellas...
Except that having a second speaker is more functional - producing better sound quality. The exhaust is the waste pipe; nobody cares if it distributes the smoke more evenly behind you (in fact, that may have unintended consequences such as impairing rear visibility more than a single column of smoke)
Does having 2 speakers that close together even matter? To achieve stereo sound, you need separation. Even on a Nexus 6 with 2 front facing speakers, the stereo effect is barely noticeable at all. Plus, those are separated by a few inches, whereas with the speakers on the 7, they'd only be like a half inch apart.
In my opinion, it doesn't really matter if there are 2 speakers or not...it won't make a massive difference in terms of sound quality. In all seriousness, I'd rather just keep the jack though.
In my opinion, it doesn't really matter if there are 2 speakers or not...it won't make a massive difference in terms of sound quality. In all seriousness, I'd rather just keep the jack though.
This is why the Apple apologist defenders don't get. One speaker is more than enough. If they want it loud, use an external BT speaker system for that for a party or in the car. I suspect having two or more speakers would drain a bit more juice from the battery.
And don't forget heat dissipation too. Better for heat to leave through holes than the surface of the phone.
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Since you're defending the decision of this possible rumor, wouldn't that make you an Apple apologist defender?
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Falling behind who or what? Maybe most other companies have caught up but that doesn't mean Apple has fallen behind. Smartphones have hit the ceiling on most innovation for now. So Apple is waiting and researching the next big thing in mobile computers. Meanwhile, everyone is just throwing ideas out there. Some people care about double speakers and stereo sound from their phones. Personally, I don't care about any speakers on my iPhone since all smartphone speakers are tinny junk and take up too much space. But we all have preferences and things we care about so Apple couldn't possibly cater to all of those things. But every other company can. Just think of all the phone makers as kickstarters. They're all trying to find the feature or gimmick that sticks and makes them a player. Meanwhile, there is only Samsung and Apple that have real phone businesses. Most others will soon disappear just around the time Apple steps up with a whole new design and feature set.
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Real world tests shows the A9 being superior to the 820. I'm not sure if Qualcomm has fixed throttling issues, but the A9 almost doesn't throttle at all. The A9 is nearly a year old and will be replaced by the A10, which will widen the gap even more.
Defending it? Hardly. I think it's stupid for Apple to remove the 3.5 jack for cosmetic reasons. They've always gone with vanity design over function.
It's all about VANITY design. The older iPhones with two speakers hiding the microphone and keeping the 3.5 Jack never was an issue to me as long they functioned properly.
Face it. Jony and Tim are the problem behind this decision. Thinness is NOT always better and I don't give a crap about the future idea of a paper thin phone that folds that one Apple fan here was smoking on about in one thread. Seriously. That is not a practical approach to product design.
The iPhone 4 thickness was fine and had practicality to hold it while texting. The thinner it gets, the harder and more awkward it gets to text with your hand. It gets really weird.
They're not removing it for cosmetic reasons. They removed it to make more room for the camera. The screen is rotated upside down, so all the cabling takes up the space where the headphone jack used to be.
FWIW, Detroit had a long history (haven't paid attention in quite a while) of putting fake hood scoops on cars to make them look sporty - not just a hood scoop without an associated intake or radiator or such behind it, but hood scoops that didn't actually pass air through the hood. So much more akin to the special ornament on top of a Christmas tree.
I'll be somewhat surprised, and I'll roll my eyes a lot, if Apple puts non-functional speaker holes into the next iPhone; they've generally seemed to uphold the idea that some given design detail isn't beautiful unless it is also functional (you can argue the merits of the functionality assigned to any given design detail, but that does seem to be their general line of reasoning).
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