iPhone 7's Secondary Speaker Holes May Be Purely Cosmetic

[H2SO4]

Smoke? If your car is smoking bad enough to impair visibility, you have bigger problems to worry about.
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I was the one that said it "looked like" not was, a CLK55. Why, because the CLK55 uses that exact same setup.
I was looking at that when I was in my phone.
When I looked at it in my desktop, I could see it was a C class with fake AMG badging.
Regardless, it is the same setup as a real AMG CLK55.
The other picture I posted is a factory exhaust taken from a CLK55 for reference.

Ok, right. I see what’s happened.

 

[JGRE]

Removing a hole as a feature, and filling it up with emptiness? Now, that is interesting.

Well, a hole is actually emptiness.... What Apple did/does was removing one hole and replacing it with 5 fake holes; isn't that great?
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That's not how that works.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110619091503AAABPNj

And drain the battery in half the time

 

[dyt1983]

Edit: Removed possibly personally identifying information no longer relevant to the thread.

 

[tadad1]

If this is true I might as well hold on to my 6+ from 2014 and wait for the grand AMOLED 8 in 2017.

Yep, I think I will keep my 6+ and wait for an all glass iPhone 8 with a cosmetic display on the back for symmetry.

 

[dugbee]

That A10-87 emoji coprocessor must throw off some serious heat to need ventilation like this.

 

[CarlJ]

I believe their target audience is anyone that possesses a phone that is doesn't have the specs of the presented product. In fact, that is the premise of ridding contracts of individual accounts from the major carriers, going month to month AND the creation of the payment plans with the option to trade in each year; to release the lock of a large segment of buyers that may otherwise not purchase a newer phone. I purchased my phone Sep 2014 btw.

My apologies, I somehow read that as "6S+" which would have been one year back, not two.

As far as the changes in the style of contracts in the past couple years, I'd attribute that much more to less entrenched carriers (T-Mobile) seeking to gain advantage (and though I remain on Verizon, I'm very glad this has happened, because the carrier lock-in of "free" subsidized phones tied into 2yr contracts was customer hostile, but Verizon and AT&T weren't going to give it up woot an outside threat), rather than to any move on the part of Apple or other manufacturers - who certainly took advantage of the opportunity once it happened.

I've wanted for years to have the phone and the data/voice plan clearly separated - let them give you one bill with monthly plan cost and the installment payment for the phone broken out onto two separate lines, sure, because that's convenient, but let the consumers understand how much the phone actually costs (there was much consumer outrage, early on, when "it cost $650 to replace a broken $200 iPhone", because the carriers kept misrepresenting the entire transaction to the consumers), and, importantly, have the charge for the phone drop off the bill once the phone is paid for (losing one of the carrier's most beloved schemes, wherein folks would continue giving them $20+ per month that initially went towards the cost of the phone, but became free money for the carrier once the customer was off contract). I'm really happy this has come to pass, and I mostly "blame" T-Mobile for making it happen.

 

[4Apples]

"Most people don't really want headphone jacks anyway." - Tim Cook

Haha that's because most people are moving to Bluetooth headphones. I wonder if Apple will offer free Bluetooth earphones with the iPhone 7 as an incentive? The new iPhone doesn't sound too appealing so far so they'll need extra sale boost

 

[garylapointe]

They would remove headphone jack and not replace it with NOTHING, and that's not a big deal?? APPLE HAS EVERYONE hypnotized

Not what he said AT ALL...

 

[HopefulHumanist]

No it won't. And it's not worth the removal of the headphone jack alone, even if it did.

Lol to you. I don't use it so pretty much anything else is worth removing it to me.

Also, [citation needed] for the claim that it couldn't possibly result in a louder speaker.

 

[aces99]

I would love it if Apple added a second speaker because I have to turn my phone full blast to be able to hear something and if you are watching a movie or video I have to put my hand over the speaker in an angle to reflex the sound so I can hear it. A bigger speaker or an added second speaker would be great.

 

[4Apples]

I was debating on whether buying the new iPhone 7., changing to a different brand,. or waiting for next year's iphone (which sounds great). If the rumors are true about the fake holes, it really narrows down my options

 

[SeaFox]

Apples and oranges.. To remove headphone jack and replace it with nothing is a slap in the face to loyal customers

It looks like they've moved things around internally to allow for a more advanced camera.

Apples and oranges. How does rearranging things internally at the top of the logic board for a new camera excuse the removal of a feature at the bottom that was still widely used when they aren't using the space for anything new?

This is just a continuation of people excusing business-driven design decisions on a supposedly cramped interior setup. If things are so tight in there, the solution is obvious: Make the phone thicker. The battery can be made thicker and not as wide, allowing for a larger logic board.

 

[TommyA6]

And don't forget heat dissipation too. Better for heat to leave through holes than the surface of the phone.
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Since you're defending the decision of this possible rumor, wouldn't that make you an Apple apologist defender?
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Falling behind who or what? Maybe most other companies have caught up but that doesn't mean Apple has fallen behind. Smartphones have hit the ceiling on most innovation for now. So Apple is waiting and researching the next big thing in mobile computers. Meanwhile, everyone is just throwing ideas out there. Some people care about double speakers and stereo sound from their phones. Personally, I don't care about any speakers on my iPhone since all smartphone speakers are tinny junk and take up too much space. But we all have preferences and things we care about so Apple couldn't possibly cater to all of those things. But every other company can. Just think of all the phone makers as kickstarters. They're all trying to find the feature or gimmick that sticks and makes them a player. Meanwhile, there is only Samsung and Apple that have real phone businesses. Most others will soon disappear just around the time Apple steps up with a whole new design and feature set.

Falling behind in display and camera quality. iOS also isn't as smooth and reliable as it used to be. The price has remained the same or increased, while the quality has dropped...

 

[MH01]

I regret that I am only allowed to give you one "like" for this - you nailed it - this keynote will be extremely interesting, not so much because they introduce a flying car or a MBP that can travel through space and time (neither of those are likely), but to see exactly what they do with these rumored changes, and how they explain their reasoning. I can pretty much guarantee you their reasoning is not, "we removed the headphone jack because we're idiots" (even though that's a popular line of thought on this forum). They feel there is some benefit to what they have done. I'm willing to believe the headphone jack is likely going to be removed (the tea leaves all seem to indicate that), but what we don't know is why. And I'm quite eager to hear their explanation.

Folks keep bringing up floppy disks, but the more accurate comparison is USB. When the first iMac came out with only USB ports, there was very little support for USB in the industry, and a huge percentage of industry watchers thought they were completely nuts and complained loudly about Apple's poor judgement - in retrospect, I don't think anyone would complain now that we're using USB instead of serial and parallel ports.

Even the USB is not a good comparison. One is a digital interface the other an analogue interface, the DAC remains in the iPhone, and you need another DAC to use the headphones, its a Clumsy design that has nothing to do with improving tech like the USB did, and its just about pulling in more money. This is a classic Sonyesque move, welcome to a proprietary connector, where the underlying tech does not change.

 

[doelcm82]

I was debating on whether buying the new iPhone 7., changing to a different brand,. or waiting for next year's iphone (which sounds great). If the rumors are true about the fake holes, it really narrows down my options

I don't understand this. A mostly cosmetic grille on the bottom of the phone seems like a trivial reason to narrow your options.

Maybe you have your reasons:

"No fake grills, EVERRR!"

Meanwhile, one of the complaints I've heard recently about Tesla's Model 3 is the absence of an ornamental fake grille on the front.

 

[gorskiegangsta]

Haha that's because most people are moving to Bluetooth headphones. I wonder if Apple will offer free Bluetooth earphones with the iPhone 7 as an incentive? The new iPhone doesn't sound too appealing so far so they'll need extra sale boost

So a handful of geeks/nerds count as "most people" now? I must've given out over a dozen BT headphones as gifts to friends/family in the past year and most go unused on a regular basis because they're currently more hassle than they're worth.
I wouldn't count on Apple bundling "wireless" headphones with the jack-less iPhone either. I seriously doubt they'd even bundle a lightning-to-3.5mm dongle when they can easily sell one for $20-30.

 

[chrizzz09]

Uh, my iPad Mini 2 and Air 2 have dual speakers. Since it is not a phone, there's no need for a microphone at the bottom.

No your mini 2 has 2 speaker grills, but only one real speaker.

Sound comes only from the right speaker grill.

Try covering both speaker grills one by one and you will see that there is no sound difference if you cover the left one.

 

[CarlJ]

the DAC remains in the iPhone, and you need another DAC to use the headphones

That is just a guess. The Lightning spec is proprietary and reassigns pins at connection time - there is nothing stopping Apple from amending the spec (since it's theirs) to run analog audio signals over one or more of the pins when connected to new Lightning-specific headphones or a Lightning-to-3.5mm adapter (with the accessory simply needing to request this behavior from the phone). Will they? Don't know, we'll find out in a few weeks. But you can't declare with certainty that a second, external, DAC is required.

and its just about pulling in more money

This is another guess. A bitterly cynical one at that.

 

[drumcat]

I'll just throw it out there... any chance it'll be an LED battery indicator?

 

[ZipZap]

Just exactly why does any of us need the IP7?

 

[CarlJ]

I'll just throw it out there... any chance it'll be an LED battery indicator?

I'm hoping for a row of NeoPixels down each edge of the phone, so we can go old-school color organ when listening to music.

 

[MH01]

That is just a guess. The Lightning spec is proprietary and reassigns pins at connection time - there is nothing stopping Apple from amending the spec (since it's theirs) to run analog audio signals over one or more of the pins when connected to new Lightning-specific headphones or a Lightning-to-3.5mm adapter (with the accessory simply needing to request this behavior from the phone). Will they? Don't know, we'll find out in a few weeks. But you can't declare with certainty that a second, external, DAC is required.

This is another guess. A bitterly cynical one at that.

It's not a guess. It's now....read the MFI specification, an external DAC is necessary.

you are the one guessing...making up an excuse to be honest . I'll make a bet right here with you that the MFI spec will not change cause it does not need to, companies have already developed kits for the iPhone 7 and some already produce lighting headphones

In regards to profit ...... Since wired headphones will need to use the lighting connector, each one equals $$ to Apple, go on Explain how that is not increased profit?

 

[shawnforever]

I was debating on whether buying the new iPhone 7., changing to a different brand,. or waiting for next year's iphone (which sounds great). If the rumors are true about the fake holes, it really narrows down my options

...said no one, ever. (Except that guy!)

 

[VMMan]

WTH is Apple putting fake exhausts on a Mercedes???

In all seriousness, I can't wait to see what fake visual elements Apple puts into their electric car.

 

[MH01]

In fact, everyone's been focusing on Lightning to 3.5mm adapters, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say one of the most popular new adapters will be a BT to 3.5mm dongle that doesn't require plugging into the phone at all. So people can use their old headphones with all the benefits of wireless, with the same quality as the headphone jack, if not better. Battery power won't be an issue, because the iPhone can be plugged in separately, and so can the adapter, don't even have to sit next to the phone anymore. Need to plug into an old 3.5mm port? No problem, maybe there's a pass through jack, so the adapter never has to come off to be remembered or get lost. The sky's the limit.

Suggest you do some research on BT audio, your statement is factually very very incorrect. I give you credit for your debates with everyone , but you need to stick to facts.

How how.... Can BT be superior to wired in sound quality ? look....it cannot .... Maybe in a distant future... It might be EQUAL. End of the day there will be always a wire to the headphones no matter what...