You do not need sales figures to know that Apple has plenty of iPhone 8/8+ to go around. The delivery times are minuscule compared to the past. If you want to bury your head in the sand, go ahead.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iPhone 8 and 8 Plus Review Roundup: Powerful Devices With Great Cameras Set Stage for iPhone X
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
You do not need sales figures to know that Apple has plenty of iPhone 8/8+ to go around. The delivery times are minuscule compared to the past. If you want to bury your head in the sand, go ahead.
You are, just as others are allowed to critique your criticism.
You said something, someone else disagrees with it, that’s all there is to it.
Your reply tend to prove that you like to judge things or people without knowing anything about them apparently, anyway.
And how is that better or worse than those who eat gravel but have iPhone X?
I won't be using my saved money for any of the above. Still, I don't see a point in forking out all that cash or something that gives me less for the money than I would get elsewhere. Money is money, the only point where I'd buy iPhone X would be if I had so much I didn't know what to do with it. I rather take an extra vacation this year than buy the X. Or I could buy a new computer. Or or or or. What I don't need is overly expensive phone that has a tiny battery and nothing that's actually so much better than on my current phone. Or rather, better than a phone that costs a lot less. My 6+ is so slow it's killing me but it still doesn't mean I'd happily pay >$1600 for the X.
I am also coming from an iPhone 6- getting the 8.
1k for a phone is a lot and while I think it looks beautiful I could use the extra money on something else— plus the notch has got to go.
I think if you are upgrading from a 7 or even a 6s it becomes increasingly understandable to just go for the x. But coming from a 6 or lower the 8 is a tempting option. Cheaper for one and also gives time to work out the kinks of the X.
Not to mention with the 8 being just as fast as the X you really are just paying for a bigger screen aka no home button and face ID at this point.
No, I was just replying like that because you said for god sake.
I'll guess from your original reply that you are an Apple fanboy?
[doublepost=1505903328][/doublepost]
No he said for gods sake, which where I come from is not that great a reply.
I prefer people to comment based on facts etc and engage in meaningful dialog.
Sure, but you don't know how stock level was, and what the iPhone X has done to demand. Does not make this a bad phone or a bad value.
With interest I read the back and forth on the 8-8+ vs X by haters and lovers of each. In particular the putdowns that the 8 series are really 7s (who really cares, now I have a 7 Plus so let me state right off on my apple update plan I probably will try out the X because I am a techie LOL). Anyway Several of the posts here and threads are all the same back and forth. This morning I saw this piece on AppleInsider that is really too the point about the iPhone and why it has slain almost all the competition in terms of market share in profit and sales. The fragmentation of droids, their technology and so on just cannot compete with the solid foundation of controlling the tech and software that Apple has lain. I am sure as soon as ai post this I will get those who like it and those who pick it apart with their pet dislikes of what Apple did and should have done ;-) I don't care this one really says a lot to me and why I will stick with this technology -- which is not perfect but for me better than droids ;-)
I focus on this section but link is below:
"
More than a new shape, smartphone buyers have demonstrated an interest in paying more for performance. Performance benchmarks are generally a niche interest, but consumers are well aware of the real world frustrations of slow delays, jittery animations and an unresponsive UI.
Early on, iPhone built in premium GPUs and packed in more RAM than other smartphones, enabling smooth scrolling and sophisticated apps and games.
iPhone 8 is no exception. Its A11 Bionic is the fastest chip in smartphones, and delivers advanced new Neural Net capabilities demonstrated in its Face ID and other face mapping apps that apply augmented reality to enhancing live images.
While Apple has relentlessly invested in proprietary high-performance silicon, Google has flopped back and forth between pursuing the idea of blanketing emerging countries with super cheap phones--while casting shade on how expensive Apple's iPhones are--and alternatively trying to bring its own premium-priced devices to market.
However, with those cycles of vilifying premium, expensive hardware Google has shot off appendages it can't simply grow back. Android licensees now lack competitive SoC options and the economies of scale needed to compete with Apple in premium phones. As Androids plummet in asking prices, there's no budget to include high-end processors and GPUs across a broad enough audience to effectively bring down their cost.
By selling incredible numbers of high-end devices that all use the same super-fast chips, Apple has singlehandedly financed the development of the world's fastest mobile processors. Starting with iPhone 8, it also now includes its own internally-designed, Metal 2-optimized Apple GPU, meaning Android licensees can't just buy the iPhone's GPU technology off the shelf anymore.
Apple's first GPU in iPhone 8 already claims to be 30 percent faster than the Imagination GPU used in iPhone 7 models--which was already the leading graphics architecture in smartphones. As it enhances its Metal software and releases new versions of its GPU, it will further distance iOS devices from the generic graphics available to mid-range Androids.
Recall that Google one banked on Texas Instruments's OMAP4 for advanced Android GPUs, and later hailed Nvidia's Tegra. Due to inadequate device sales supporting those advanced GPUs, both companies eventually gave up and exited the smartphone business.
In contrast, Apple has created a massive installed base of premium mobile computing users. That's enabling it to drive App Store sales of high-end games and sophisticated apps that make use of its advanced CPU and GPU designs.
It has also laid a foundation for ARKit apps, which distinguish iOS as a platform. ARKit builds upon all the work Apple has done to build a cohesive platform of calibrated devices that share the same motion-sensing hardware and cameras. Google can copy the software, but there's not a large base of Androids powerful enough (or similar enough) to run it well.........."
here is link to article for the full read...
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/09/20/editorial-who-will-buy-iphone-8
I focus on this section but link is below:
"
More than a new shape, smartphone buyers have demonstrated an interest in paying more for performance. Performance benchmarks are generally a niche interest, but consumers are well aware of the real world frustrations of slow delays, jittery animations and an unresponsive UI.
Early on, iPhone built in premium GPUs and packed in more RAM than other smartphones, enabling smooth scrolling and sophisticated apps and games.
iPhone 8 is no exception. Its A11 Bionic is the fastest chip in smartphones, and delivers advanced new Neural Net capabilities demonstrated in its Face ID and other face mapping apps that apply augmented reality to enhancing live images.
While Apple has relentlessly invested in proprietary high-performance silicon, Google has flopped back and forth between pursuing the idea of blanketing emerging countries with super cheap phones--while casting shade on how expensive Apple's iPhones are--and alternatively trying to bring its own premium-priced devices to market.
However, with those cycles of vilifying premium, expensive hardware Google has shot off appendages it can't simply grow back. Android licensees now lack competitive SoC options and the economies of scale needed to compete with Apple in premium phones. As Androids plummet in asking prices, there's no budget to include high-end processors and GPUs across a broad enough audience to effectively bring down their cost.
By selling incredible numbers of high-end devices that all use the same super-fast chips, Apple has singlehandedly financed the development of the world's fastest mobile processors. Starting with iPhone 8, it also now includes its own internally-designed, Metal 2-optimized Apple GPU, meaning Android licensees can't just buy the iPhone's GPU technology off the shelf anymore.
Apple's first GPU in iPhone 8 already claims to be 30 percent faster than the Imagination GPU used in iPhone 7 models--which was already the leading graphics architecture in smartphones. As it enhances its Metal software and releases new versions of its GPU, it will further distance iOS devices from the generic graphics available to mid-range Androids.
Recall that Google one banked on Texas Instruments's OMAP4 for advanced Android GPUs, and later hailed Nvidia's Tegra. Due to inadequate device sales supporting those advanced GPUs, both companies eventually gave up and exited the smartphone business.
In contrast, Apple has created a massive installed base of premium mobile computing users. That's enabling it to drive App Store sales of high-end games and sophisticated apps that make use of its advanced CPU and GPU designs.
It has also laid a foundation for ARKit apps, which distinguish iOS as a platform. ARKit builds upon all the work Apple has done to build a cohesive platform of calibrated devices that share the same motion-sensing hardware and cameras. Google can copy the software, but there's not a large base of Androids powerful enough (or similar enough) to run it well.........."
here is link to article for the full read...
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/09/20/editorial-who-will-buy-iphone-8
No the X has the top notch
I didn't even catch that hahah.
[doublepost=1505915611][/doublepost]
What I've been seeing are people bashing the 8 AND X. Oh well.
I didn’t think the user/photographer had the ability to edit the output at all. I thought the phone just spits out what it thinks is best, which in this case, is pretty terrible. Sort of like a Snapchat filter forgot to load around the subject.
I think it did pretty well, given the specific difficulties in that shot. I doubt your human eye could have detected where the background guy's head ended and the girl's began-- mine couldn't. Yes, a human would have guessed where to put the line a little better; but all in all, pretty good for version 1.
If there is insufficient iPhone 8/8+ stock, there would be a device shortage. The iPhone 8/8+ were designed to be lower cost flagships in 2017, but with lower cost flagships, it bears the same concepts way back to the iPhone 6 and with minimal upgrades since then. If I use a 7/7+, I basically have used the 8/8+.
You give them no credit for all the technological advances in the components.
Let me guess, if it had the exact same internals as the 7, but it looked different, you would consider it better than the 8?
No, because there are better phones at a cheaper price and do not require buying peripherals to enjoy something like quick charging.
Why should the average consumer care that the NMs are shrinking to 10 or 7?
So it's really about cost then? Average consumers should not care about the NM, they should care about the benefits the new processors afford. They should care about the battery savings, photo improvements, etc that are all due to the A11 and it's associated technologies.
It's not that sizable of an improvement to say I want to spend all that much $ for. Phones are getting way too slim and the battery life is not improving. The A10 processor is just fine for another few years. Buying a phone just for a processor upgrade isn't worth it in this day and age.
And it's totally ok for you to believe that.
I could have had either the 7,8 or the X I chose the middle with the 8+.
Will upgrade to the SEX(special edition X) Next year. Enjoy your 7.
Enjoy your phone as well. The iPhone X will be a good device and probably more reasonably price come 2018 with the newer phones up for grabs.
Exactly! You can pay the same money for a Samsung or the Iphone 8...in the end your paying
almost the same no matter which phone you get, so why not get the best!
The android fandroids just don't get that its not about price its about the OS.
If I were given an android phone I"d sell it.
Life is too short to use android
You talk about hardware, not the benefits of it. I think you just don't get what I am saying, which is ok.
Hardware and software together, the iPhone is too novel and elementary because they have the power of a A9, A10, or A11 processor and haven't done enough to maximize it. The iPad took a huge step with iOS 11 and is my favorite iOS device to use. But when it comes towards mobile phones, Apple has to step it up in terms of using big screens and maximizing productivity through split screen multitasking and making the iPhone in parity with the iPad.
What would you use it for if they did?
Which version of android are you using on your moto?
Just doing more stuff like watching YouTube videos and surfing the web or type up small documents and web browse at the same time. Just having options and developer support is good because it means options people use.
Ok, that makes sense. Competition between OS's is good.
I think IOS 11 is going to change things. I like the current multitasking on Iphone, not sure the screen is big enough for split screen on a phone? I can see on the iPad.
I have a mixer app for the QSC mixer that I use with my band that I wish would allow true split screen on my iPad but thats Qsc not Apple.
I hear all the time from my friends that they are having problems with their android devices
especially as they get older...less and less support and updates.
My main reasons are all OS. android does not support the devices as long,
the APPS are not update as often, and the best apps are on IOS.
I'm glad android is there though, makes IOS and Iphone better.