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iPhone 8 and 8 Plus Review Roundup: Powerful Devices With Great Cameras Set Stage for iPhone X

Wireless charging was pretty far down my wish list. Better battery life and durability are way more important. I've had a lightning charger dock for a couple of years on my nightstand. It's connected to a 12w supply for fast charging, so I definitely do not see an advantage to slow charging with an inductive puck.

The only public place i've seen with charger pucks is a DFW airport lounge across from a McDonalds.
 
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marco114 said:
I don't know if that guy is a bad photographer or what, but it looks nothing like DSLR quality.
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It takes a lot of effort to get a photo that soft on a DSLR....


bmpwe said:
A current sensor phone will never take as good of a photo as a current big sensor dedicated camera. The one legs up that phones have as they've proven to be superior in their ability to share photos and alway be on a person. they say the best camera is the on you have with you.
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With one caveat. When cell phone sensors get global electronic shutter, they're going to seriously cut into DSLR sales by being able to take multiple photos in rapid succession and merge them intelligently (motion-compensated blending) to remove motion blur without unusable levels of noise. The DSLR will still take better pictures thanks to zooms, but for low light, the difference will largely go away by replacing sensor sensitivity with longer exposure times.
 
Stella said:
Does the phone actually take advantage of the extra CPU performance? If not, thats whats the point?
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Facebook will now load in .001 seconds instead of .002 seconds!

slap on another $50!
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Rogifan said:
You mean because the display is rounded instead of right angles?
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on the iPhone X it's the notch which requires the display to be custome shaped and cut. this apparently is leading to the low yields on the iPhone X.
 
Still say Apple should have done a 'slam dunk' and made the X the only new model to replace the 7 (at the new 8 price point). Yes they might have taken a hit on profits but I'm willing to bet would have gained a multitude of new users.
[doublepost=1505840633][/doublepost]What I fear now is Apple is now making a new tier price point for the iPhone. Mac...Pro...iPad...Pro and now the iPhone.
 
RickInHouston said:
What he seems to be saying is there is no MAJOR update to this phone. All updates are minor. Surely, you can agree with that, no? Also, the new phone has a smaller battery. Since battery life is a big, big issues - I would think that's a MAJOR negative.
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There are no major updates. Anyone saying differently is disillusional. Putting a glass back and adding wireless charging-the largest visible upgrades are not major in any world.
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dominiongamma said:
guess the 4k 60 fps, 240 fps on 1080, portrait lighting, true tone you forgot
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These are very minor that don't impact 90% of everyday users.
 
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One thing is for sure no one will complain about the A11's performance LOL:
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iphone8_export.jpeg
 
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So I must of missed it, are we confirmed to 2GB on iPhone 8/8+ or it is 3 ? If benchmarks were ran we should be able to get that info now right ?
 
Stella said:
Benchmarks aren't real world performance. Comparing intel based machines to ARM based devices is comparing Apples to oranges.

Nice, graph, but what is it testing? Single core, dual core etc? Not enough information provided.
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Those tests are pretty straight forward, Geekbench is CPU only using all 6 cores and 3DMark is mostly GPU with some CPU because of the physics portion of the test. The video export is a good real world test of using the entire A11 chip and the Flash drive.
 
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Rocko99991 said:
There are no major updates. Anyone saying differently is disillusional. Putting a glass back and adding wireless charging-the largest visible upgrades are not major in any world.
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These are very minor that don't impact 90% of everyday users.
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Minor to you..depends on the user
The Camera, the faster processor for iOS 11 AR, all good stuff.
I'm coming from the 6 but even if you're on the 7
the upgrades are good and you can upgrade from the 7 for almost nothing, so why not?
 
fourthtunz said:
Minor to you..depends on the user
The Camera, the faster processor for iOS 11 AR, all good stuff.
I'm coming from the 6 but even if you're on the 7
the upgrades are good and you can upgrade from the 7 for almost nothing, so why not?
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I am arguing they are not major. OLED screen is major, glass back-not. Camera upgrades remain to be seen.
 
Stella said:
If you have a iPhone 5 or maybe a 6, then the 8 is probably worth the upgrade.

Don't see the point in upgrading from a 7 or even a 6S.

Apple should have called the 8, the 7S.
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Has Apple ever altered the form factor for an S model? To my recollection they have always been spec bumps only.

We might also ask, "what's in a name?" Answer: nothing but a name. Shakespeare had that one nailed a few centuries ago.
 
nviz22 said:
Video quality improvements do not necessarily translate to the user experience. Many people will keep their camera at default settings because they do not tinker with their phones. Even with a format change, it still will pile on because you're using max capabilities to record. Anyways, those upgrades are not worth paying a sticker price Apple wants.
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TO YOU. I would gladly pay $100-$200 extra for 4k/60 video, and the wireless charging alone.
 
Keirasplace said:
Always depends on where you come from. If you got a 5s to 6, it does make sense and there a lot of people with those phones.
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Couldn't agree more. I definitely think if you own a 6s and below model, it's a great upgrade. But those of us with the 7/7+, it's not as justified an upgrade.
 
Rocko99991 said:
I am arguing they are not major. OLED screen is major, glass back-not. Camera upgrades remain to be seen.
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You can already see the reviews for these phones on youtube.
Even coming from the 7 the upgrades are significant, especially when you consider its only
a couple $$ a month for the upgrade.
But again if you just use your phone as a phone probably not.
 
jmgregory1 said:
As others have said, the 8 is effectively a 7S, which in any other year would have garnered mostly positive reviews. But because the 8's are now second fiddle to the X, the natural thing to do is to question why someone would upgrade to the 8 instead of the X.

For those currently using a 7 or 7+, it likely is a stretch to think upgrading to the 8 makes sense. I've been using my 6S+ without feeling the need or want to upgrade to the 7, and the I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that the obvious upgrade path is going to be the X. For early adopters, why would you not skip the 8 and go right to the X?
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This has been true for many previous generations of iPhones too. Never mind that in past years, phone contracts were every 2 years. But it seems average across the board to update every 2 years (which worked itself out to every other model) to balance having the most updated Iph, with not spending excessive money having to rebuy a phone so often. For some folks, they've extended their update cycles to every 3 years, or even 4 years to save more money.

Me, the only phone I wanted to update sooner than later was going from a Samsung Galaxy s2 to an s4. Upgrade from Android 2.3.6 to 4.4.4. I would've used the s4 for 4 years, but at the 2.5 year mark, I dropped it a 2nd time, and a botched repair job got me to "may as well upgrade" to an LG G4. I plan on using this phone for at least 4 years, but we'll see (already 1 year in, no drops that broke it!)
 
Im gonna go out on a limb here and say the people using the full power of the a-chip devices are very minuscule. Most folks use their devices for normal everyday uses such as social media, games, text and calls and average photos.

Just wondering what that miniscule percent are doing that they are taxing these chips?
 
I am getting a 7 plus 32GB for 599 €

8 plus 64GB would cost me 909 €

... can't see the 8 being 50% better than the 7
 
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jmgregory1 said:
As others have said, the 8 is effectively a 7S, which in any other year would have garnered mostly positive reviews. But because the 8's are now second fiddle to the X, the natural thing to do is to question why someone would upgrade to the 8 instead of the X.

For those currently using a 7 or 7+, it likely is a stretch to think upgrading to the 8 makes sense. I've been using my 6S+ without feeling the need or want to upgrade to the 7, and the I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that the obvious upgrade path is going to be the X. For early adopters, why would you not skip the 8 and go right to the X?
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I upgraded from the 6S+ to the 7+ and could feel the difference between the two phones from the camera to the speed performance. While I can see a lot of people still being fine with the 6S models, the jump to an 8 model will be even more dramatic.


gnipgnop said:
The reviewers all seem to be trying REALLY hard to ignore the AR aspect entirely. Pretty funny. I'm sure the Bionic will turn out to be the baseline standard for AR use in time. iPhone 8 is essentially the bridge between "first 10 years of iPhone" and the "second 10 years of iPhone".
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It's a great device, but it seems more like the last of the first decade of iPhone than the first of the second.

drewyboy said:
This is hands down a pass year for me. Not that the phones aren't good or better than the iPhone 7, of course they are, but knowing that there is a high likelihood that the 2018 iPhones will be based off the iPhone X and replace the iPhone 8's price point, it's hard to justify spending the money now rather than wait till the iPhone line gets cleaned up.
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I'm not sure that their is a "high likelihood" of that. You're likely to continue seeing a "pro" type iPhone being offered for those who are willing to spend the money. We could see an iPhone 9 and an iPhone XS next year.

mrklaw said:
6s is basically the new baseline for phones. 2GB ram, decent CPU. slowly the older phones will get more and more left behind and then the 6s will start to feel maybe a little slow as more apps assume that level of performance as a minimum.

But for now it is more than enough phone for normal people.

I'd expect a lot on this board to not be 'normal' people :) and thats why we're looking at upgrading more often for incremental gains
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Again the 6S is a fine device for a lot of people, but the jump to 8 is dramatic. The camera, dramatic increase in power and 3GB of RAM should be enough for people to consider the upgrade.

I still haven't decided if I'm going to keep my 7+, upgrade to the 8+ or wait for the X. I'm leaning towards the 8 Plus, but I may wait to see if they introduce a Product Red version like they did with iPhone 7.
 
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