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I'm in the iPhone upgrade program so I was upgrading regardless. Going from a 7 to an 8+. I've never had a plus so figured I'd give it a shot. Not interested in Face ID or losing my home button. Maybe next year.
 
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Face ID? Smaller form factor? OIS on both back cameras?

You're right though, a lot fewer people would pay the extra $200 to go to the iPhone X, and the release date of the 8 could be delayed in the same way as well.

But the X is also a big compromise, especially when I saw how it handles landscape mode - less usable space than even my 6s+. At this point it is basically an early adopter sneak-peak product, and serious buyers who want no compromises and a large screen size have to wait another year.

When did both cameras get ois? I don't remember them saying that
 
When did both cameras get ois? I don't remember them saying that

The iPhone X gets 2.4 f on telephoto and OIS. The 8 plus doesn't have OIS on the telephoto and is still 2.8 f.

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The 8 series is a serious bore at this point. Might as well save money and get a 6S or 7 series or splurge for an X.
 
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Love the old Argus at the bottom of the first pic! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
 
I'm impressed, but for me, there is no reason to upgrade from my perfectly functioning 6s Plus. I wasn't planning on upgrading anyway, but seeing the 8 doesn't compel me in any way to upgrade. I know that everything about the 8 is probably better than my 6s Plus, but I have no issues with the performance, camera, screen, battery life, or design so I really don't have a reason to fork over $800 for an 8 Plus.

Really good phones though, and I would definitely upgrade if my 6s Plus wasn't still going strong.
 
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That's minimal though because it is still 4k and 30 additional frames per second will not help with storage issues if you record a ton. That's just a new area for Apple to tackle. It is an impressive feat in a phone, but it is not worth it calling a huge camera upgrade because it will not considerably change the user experience like a dual camera setup would vs the camera modules the 6S/6S+ offered or what the 6/6+ offered.
The 30 additional frames per second make a giant different in video quality. They use a new format for storage that will keep the storage requirements to a minimum, and doubled the lowest tier storage. I would much rather have to manage high quality video than accept 30 FPS quality.
 
So much of this analysis is completely besides the point, since hardly everyone buys a new phone every year. It only seems that every new iPhone has to be a tempting upgrade from the previous generation from the highly unrepresentative comments of tech geeks, for whom a new iPhone is a total fail if they wouldn't trade up from the last generation to have it. For more regular people, many of whom are currently toting around a 2-3 year old (or more) iPhone, the iPhone 8 might be just the ticket.
 
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At the end of the day the iPhone 8 series are a great set of iPhones. There are SEVERAL nice improvements over the 7 series.

Are they for everyone? No. Some people want to stick with their 5S/6 or whatever.

However, you can't deny that the phones are top notch.
Many are seemingly bashing the 8's to justify their X purchase
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Price is likely the only reason people won't upgrade to the X, which Apple likely knew and priced the X accordingly in order to limit sales while production capacity was constrained. I think what will more likely happen, is that they'll see higher than expected X sales, just like what happened with the 6+ intro, and they'll be playing catch-up for 6 months.

By that time, there will be rumors of the XS models, which may keep some from upgrading to the X, figuring they'll get something better for maybe a similar price, or less.
True about price. Many people are saying enough is enough and is Apple trying to set the new normal for their new releases going forward.
 
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The 30 additional frames per second make a giant different in video quality. They use a new format for storage that will keep the storage requirements to a minimum, and doubled the lowest tier storage. I would much rather have to manage high quality video than accept 30 FPS quality.

Video quality improvements do not necessarily translate to the user experience. Many people will keep their camera at default settings because they do not tinker with their phones. Even with a format change, it still will pile on because you're using max capabilities to record. Anyways, those upgrades are not worth paying a sticker price Apple wants.
 
The main difference between the previous iPhones [7 and 7 Plus] and iPhone 8 is it just support wireless Charing. Otherwise nothing major upgrade over iPhone 7 Plus. All minor spec bumps come at a higher price tag since Apple rised the price by $50.

This is completely false. You didn't take the time to actually review the specifications for the iPhone 8 at all.

What about ....Glass backing, A11 Bionic processor/Neutral Engine, upgraded camera, new Tru-Tone Display, wider color gamut display, improved stereo speakers that are 25% louder and augmented reality capabilities.
 
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This is completely false. You didn't take the time to actually review the specifications for the iPhone 8 at all.

What about ....Glass backing, A11 Bionic processor/Neutral Engine, upgraded camera, new Tru-Tone Display, wider color gamut display, improved stereo speakers that are 25% louder and augmented reality capabilities.

Glass backing is only there for wireless charging. What good is the A11 processor if Apple doesn't give us anything to take advantage of in terms of improving multi-tasking? A newer camera was expected and isn't worth upgrading to. "True tone display" and whatever is called doesn't change the 750p or 1080p resolutions nor are OLED based. Stereo speakers improving is expected since it's a 2nd gen of them. Isn't ARKit available on the 7 and 7+? Not such a good upgrade from the 7/7+.
 
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Many are seemingly bashing the 8's to justify their X purchase
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True about price. Many people are saying enough is enough and is Apple trying to set the new normal for their new releases going forward.

"many people".... So, YOU then... "Some people" and "Many people" and the like are the fruit of no argument discussions.
 
Glass backing is only there for wireless charging. What good is the A11 processor if Apple doesn't give us anything to take advantage of in terms of improving multi-tasking? A newer camera was expected and isn't worth upgrading to. "True tone display" and whatever is called doesn't change the 750p. Not such a good upgrade from the 7/7+.

Is there a reason why you're trying to justify to me why it's not an upgrade because of your standards? That doesn't translate to everybody else's appreciations or situation . And more specifically, read your last sentence. Not everybody's going to be upgrading from the iPhone 7 and 7+. Anything lower than the iPhone 7 Model, that would be a fairly good upgrade for all those capabilities. Nor was I even commenting on why somebody should upgrade from iPhone 7 to the iPhone 8. That really wasn't my point behind my post. My point was, that poster commented stating wireless charging was really the only major thing added. I simply list of the other capabilities that poster left out and failed to mention.
 
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I think the 8's will sell more when people realize the X shortage is real and will be pretty much be non existent until sometime in 2018.
 
In what photography world does this look good?
In the same realm where Beats headphones or Bose speakers get a thumbs up. Exaggerated features that look (sound) impressive to most casual observers until compared to state-of-the-art equipment, where the shortcomings are clearly and convincingly revealed.

For most non-demanding consumer applications these features are an improvement and welcomed by many.
 
The main difference between the previous iPhones [7 and 7 Plus] and iPhone 8 is it just support wireless Charing. Otherwise nothing major upgrade over iPhone 7 Plus. All minor spec bumps come at a higher price tag since Apple rised the price by $50.

Wireless charging is probably the least exciting upgrade to me, though I'm happy it's there. I'm mostly excited about the advances in the A11, cameras, and true tone screen. I'm actually waiting for the X myself though.
 
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