iPhone 8 Case Compared to iPhone 7 Offers Clear Picture of Size Difference

[William Reachers]

The apple design is more than just a simple design, each year they come up with something to make our life easier through the design of the new iPhone. My opinion is that through all of the iPhone models that have been released, there is one model for almost each person. Each of the change in the design of the new iPhones are well thought and have a clear reason for doing it so.
I like to compare the evolution of the iPhone during the last years to a change that has been seen globally in the needs of all people.

 

[Ankaa]

Yes, i understand.
But a big selling point of the se is that it is " cheap" for an iphone.
And all the fetures people are suggesting, won' t make it cheap and relatively expensive compared to the bigger models.

Actually, the majority of people hold on to their older phone because they didn't want a bigger phone and then gladly jumped onto the iPhone SE. That people prefer the SE because of its price tag is a astonishingly common misconception. Apparently it's hard to grasp for some folks - including those at Apple - that some people simply prefer a smaller screen.

It's not always about the price.

 

[Joseph Rash]

my only problem with the iPhone 6 is its to wide , i saw the galaxy s8 the 5.8 and its 1 mm wider and i was hoping if apple can make the new iPhone narrower but this phone is wider than the galaxy s8
im still going to by it .

 

[ValO]

Actually, the majority of people hold on to their older phone because they didn't want a bigger phone and then gladly jumped onto the iPhone SE. That people prefer the SE because of its price tag is a astonishingly common misconception. Apparently it's hard to grasp for some folks - including those at Apple - that some people simply prefer a smaller screen.

It's not always about the price.

Ok, so you are telling me that se outsells its bigger brothers? Since you are saying " the majority"
Sorry but the asp is growing and growing each year.
And with the introduction of the bigger 6 and 6 plus, and after that with the 6s and 7, they broke sales records.

It is your opinion and a few others on macrumors. Numbers suggest otherwise.

 

[Ankaa]

Ok, so you are telling me that se outsells its bigger brothers? Since you are saying " the majority"

I was referring to "the majority of people who bought the SE" and you perfectly know that.

 

[ValO]

I was referring to "the majority of people who bought the SE" and you perfectly know that.

No, you should be more clear.

This is what you said:
"
Actually, the majority of people hold on to their older phone because they didn't want a bigger phone and then gladly jumped onto the iPhone SE."

You are actually saying that the majority of the people did not upgrade their older iphone to a bigger iphone and bought the se.

At least, that is what you write, perhaps you meant something different.

My opinion is that the majority of the older iphone upgraded to a bigger iphone. At least that is what sales numbers and asp' s are suggesting.

 

[Ankaa]

No, you should be more clear.

This is what you said:
"
Actually, the majority of people hold on to their older phone because they didn't want a bigger phone and then gladly jumped onto the iPhone SE."

You are actually saying that the majority of the people did not upgrade their older iphone to a bigger iphone and bought the se.

At least, that is what you write, perhaps you meant something different.

My opinion is that the majority of the older iphone upgraded to a bigger iphone. At least that is what sales numbers and asp' s are suggesting.

Oh boy, really? I was answering to a quote that specifically talks about the SE - so why would you assume I'm talking about "all iPhones" and not "only SE" when talking about "majority"?

Yes, you're right, I should have been very explicit. Reading comprehension does not seem to be a big strength and I should anticipate this and try to avoid any confusion whatsoever. My bad.

And that SE sales were surprisingly and unexpectedly high has made the news multiple times. As have polls asking why people held on to their older phones instead of buying one of the newer (bigger) models - or one of the previous-year (still big) models which were very similar in price but with yet more options? Why would they chuck out a lot of money for an iPhone for their previous model, basically pay what Apple asks, but then hold on to their phone for more than the average of years instead of again going with the price, but then all of a sudden by a new phone just because there is a "cheaper" version? Does not make a lot of sense.

And that being said, I never denied that there is a demographic who probably opted for the SE because it is cheaper, similar to the 5C over the 5S. All I'm saying is this isn't the majority of people who bought the SE.

 

[ValO]

Oh boy, really? I was answering to a quote that specifically talks about the SE - so why would you assume I'm talking about "all iPhones" and not "only SE" when talking about "majority"?

Yes, you're right, I should have been very explicit. Reading comprehension does not seem to be a big strength and I should anticipate this and try to avoid any confusion whatsoever. My bad.

And that SE sales were surprisingly and unexpectedly high has made the news multiple times. As have polls asking why people held on to their older phones instead of buying one of the newer (bigger) models - or one of the previous-year (still big) models which were very similar in price but with yet more options? Why would they chuck out a lot of money for an iPhone for their previous model, basically pay what Apple asks, but then hold on to their phone for more than the average of years instead of again going with the price, but then all of a sudden by a new phone just because there is a "cheaper" version? Does not make a lot of sense.

And that being said, I never denied that there is a demographic who probably opted for the SE because it is cheaper, similar to the 5C over the 5S. All I'm saying is this isn't the majority of people who bought the SE.

Ok have it your way man. You were clear and i am a moron.. sjeez.

If apple would release a new se it would be a big hit and bring in billions. Apple chooses to no do that. It is very clear. Apple pays a billion follars for market research, but they choose to ignore the outcome and choose to pass up billions, just for the fun of it or because they don' t feel like it...

 

[Rob_2811]

Looks good, but damn, that music in the video is awful, and his fingernails are disgusting. Sorry, just could not get over it ... Anyway, as someone mentioned - the size of this phone would be perfect!

He's got 9 more.

I love when he tries to jerk it off

Nice fingernails, bruh

I'm fairly sure thats a woman chaps. You are aware that women tend to grow their nails right?

Please, no bigger than the 6S/7! It's already big enough and with no jack socket this will be yet another no-buy for me. I'll need a lot of convincing to get me off my 6S.
[doublepost=1495754016][/doublepost]The circle on the back of the phone will be for wireless (inductive) charging, if anything. No way will Apple put Touch-ID on the back.

I've said it before but it bears repeating. If they have to put a visible cut out circle on the back of the phone that is the worst implementation of wireless inductive charging ever.

 

[gnasher729]

I really hope Apple transitions the iphone and ipad to usb-c this year! It's the perfect time. Then all of their laptops and mobile devices will be usb-c only! I dont want to worry about more than 1 type of cable, especially when travelling.

Please explain to us what the advantage would be. I see a huge disadvantage: None of my charging cables would fit.
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I think the iPhone SE will be revamped in 2018. It's easily still favored and I commend Apple for bringing it back for the demographic who wanted a smaller form factor. Perhaps reduced bezels and a more rounded design would suit nicely.

I would be positively surprised if Apple made one model with a 4" screen but smaller case, and one model with the current case size and they can probably fit a 4.7" or even bigger screen in it.

 

[OneMike]

You can redesign a phone a billion times. At the end of the day what I really care about are significant changes to the OS at this point.

 

[myrtlebee]

I'm fairly sure thats a woman chaps.

Sorry, but:

 

[jthesssin]

yeah, pretty sure it will be an iPhone 7s Plus for me this year... i like the size of 6S plus and don't want to shrink my handset even if the screen is "bigger"...

 

[Ankaa]

If apple would release a new se it would be a big hit and bring in billions. Apple chooses to no do that. It is very clear. Apple pays a billion follars for market research, but they choose to ignore the outcome and choose to pass up billions, just for the fun of it or because they don' t feel like it...

My bad, I totally forgot that Apple never makes mistakes and always knows better and exactly what their customers want. I'd forgotten that for a moment.

 

[William Reachers]

My personal belief is that if they were to see a chance of making billions, they would have already invested in making a new SE, but I am not quite sure that this is what the majority of people want. I for one, would like a SE that is in between the size that it currently has and the 6s+. Somewhere in between would be great for me, but my hands are one of a kind!

 

[ValO]

My bad, I totally forgot that Apple never makes mistakes and always knows better and exactly what their customers want. I'd forgotten that for a moment.

No you assume that you know what consumers want. In the meanwhile it is what you want and a few people that you are familiar with. And some posters on this forum.
If the se sold better or at least as well, as the bigger iphones, they would release a newer high end small smartphone.
And the sales numbers of the se? Apple knows how many they have sold, and only apple. Not you, not me, etc.
They have made mistakes, of course, but one thing can be said about apple: they want to make money, and will never let an opportunity pass by, to earn money.

 

[Ankaa]

No you assume that you know what consumers want. In the meanwhile it is what you want and a few people that you are familiar with. And some posters on this forum.
If the se sold better or at least as well, as the bigger iphones, they would release a newer high end small smartphone.
And the sales numbers of the se? Apple knows how many they have sold, and only apple. Not you, not me, etc.
They have made mistakes, of course, but one thing can be said about apple: they want to make money, and will never let an opportunity pass by, to earn money.

I never said the SE sells as well as the bigger phones - those are words you're putting in my mouth.
Apple, in the past, was also convinced that no-one, NO-ONE, wants a smaller iPad. One example.
You're argument "they would release a newer high end small smartphone" is flawed because of what I previously mentioned: Apple wants us to buy the bigger-sized phones. They're artificially constraining and dividing the devices. Because they can make more money this way (they are more expensive). And because they think they know best what we want.

There was an article about Apple actually admitting they were surprised by the demand for the SE, but I can't find it.

Also:

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/26/iphone-se-demand-is-strong/

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/03/apple-ramps-iphone-se-orders-amid-sales-pressures/

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/19/iphone-se-share/

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/2...-survey-despite-shift-towards-larger-screens/

But yeah, it's only me and a small number of people here on this forum.

 

[Gav.Winters]

No you assume that you know what consumers want. In the meanwhile it is what you want and a few people that you are familiar with. And some posters on this forum.
If the se sold better or at least as well, as the bigger iphones, they would release a newer high end small smartphone.
And the sales numbers of the se? Apple knows how many they have sold, and only apple. Not you, not me, etc.
They have made mistakes, of course, but one thing can be said about apple: they want to make money, and will never let an opportunity pass by, to earn money.

It does make you wonder why they don't create new hardware for a smaller phone. I'm sure it's not doing crazy numbers but surely more than enough to justify a more investment. But, like you say, they know what they're doing.

 

[ValO]

I never said the SE sells as well as the bigger phones - those are words you're putting in my mouth.
Apple, in the past, was also convinced that no-one, NO-ONE, wants a smaller iPad. One example.
You're argument "they would release a newer high end small smartphone" is flawed because of what I previously mentioned: Apple wants us to buy the bigger-sized phones. They're artificially constraining and dividing the devices. Because they can make more money this way (they are more expensive). And because they think they know best what we want.

There was an article about Apple actually admitting they were surprised by the demand for the SE, but I can't find it.

Also:

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/26/iphone-se-demand-is-strong/

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/03/apple-ramps-iphone-se-orders-amid-sales-pressures/

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/19/iphone-se-share/

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/2...-survey-despite-shift-towards-larger-screens/

But yeah, it's only me and a small number of people here on this forum.

There was also a post, that apple made too few units of the se, and were surprised by the bigger demand than they expected, and that was it, i have seen some sales charts, and the 6s/7, galaxy s7 are topping the charts.
You assume apple makes a mistake for not releasing a smaller iphone. But they did, it is the se. And demand for the se is not only because of the size, but also because of the price.
a new high end, with the same specs as the bigger iphones, but just as small iphone as the se, with a $250 higher pricetag as the se, will be a tough sell.
And you quoted that the majority of users of older iphones did not upgrade to a newer bigger iphone, because of size.
Where did you get that knowledge from? Your neighbour? Your cousin?
But i am going to stop this now. My reaction was to your statement stated above, and i did not agree. That is all.
I let you have the last word.

 

[Tuslareb]

I want a smaller phone, not a larger one. I guess I'll pass this one.

 

[William Reachers]

What do you guys think is the best size for a phone, my ideal phone should be 145 x 70 x 7 mm (H x W x D mm)
What do you think yours ought to be?
Here are some of the size of a few phones:
123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm - iPhone SE
158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm - iPhone 6
158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm - iPhone 7
158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm - iPhone 7+
153.9 x 75.4 x 7 mm - Alcatel IDOL 4s

 

[JulianL]

My personal belief is that if they were to see a chance of making billions, they would have already invested in making a new SE, but I am not quite sure that this is what the majority of people want. I for one, would like a SE that is in between the size that it currently has and the 6s+. Somewhere in between would be great for me, but my hands are one of a kind!

I wouldn't assume yet that a redesigned SE is off the table. The problem for Apple is that they produce things in such huge volumes and get such massive scrutiny that even a defect affecting 0.00001% of users can turn into the next <something>Gate.

I can see an SE-sized phone with the same edge-to-edge screen as is being rumoured for the anniversary iPhone as being a really big seller but perhaps Apple felt that going with new (to Apple) OLED edge-to-edge technology plus the embedded TouchID element to it on two models at once was too much of a risk and/or would push the supply chain too hard in terms of quality plus yield so they are holding back on such a redesigned SE.

It seems to me a sensible strategy. The design might well be ready to go they just don't want it to compete for early manufacturing capacity on the screen right now and want to at least somewhat limit the damage if, in a worst case scenario, there was an OLEDGate or TouchIDGate episode with the new technology.

 

[William Reachers]

Whatever they may bring new to the table is going to be more than appreciated, may it be a new redesigned SE or a different design completely. They have been on the market for o long, that it is clear they know what they are doing.
There are so many models right now that they suit all ages, and all people.

 

[saile]

This case confirms that it will not have a fingerprint sensor at the back, it is already a positive thing.


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