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I just want a Nokia 808 sized phone, thickness is not a problem, the other two dimensions are.

Make a small thick phone with a massive 1 inch sensor... perfect!
 
For christ's sake, why do they always think everyone wants an as big a phone as possible? This seriously needs to stop. At least give people a choice. (and for those coming in shouting that there are with the iPhone SE and the iPhone 7 nonplus: no, those aren't a choice if they are not equal in specs - which they aren't.)


How do you know the specs of future Apple products?
 
Please, no bigger than the 6S/7! It's already big enough and with no jack socket this will be yet another no-buy for me. I'll need a lot of convincing to get me off my 6S.
[doublepost=1495754016][/doublepost]The circle on the back of the phone will be for wireless (inductive) charging, if anything. No way will Apple put Touch-ID on the back.
Got a call from your buddy Tim?
 
You must be really fun at parties

Why though?

Sorry you can't get everything you want. Larger phone, different specs. Want a smaller phone? It's a trade off.

No it's not. Take the Macbook Pros for example, or the iMacs. Yes, CPUs may differ, but the general functionality is the same. Whereas in the iPhones, e.g. iPhone SE vs. iPhone 6/6+/7/7+ or no in the iPhone 7 vs. iPhone 7++ is merely artificial. They COULD provide the same functions to the smaller models, if they WANTED. I'm not talking about speed etc but things like 3D touch, camera, ... it just feels like they're pushing people to the larger (and more expensive :rolleyes: ) phones if they want certain functions. Is it really so hard to understand that I might WANT those functions, but simply do not want a huge a** phone? Because it's simply too big for my hands?

When is apple about choice? It's either their way or highway!

Well, they offer "choice", it's just no real choice. See above.

It's all to do with the display nowadays and to view content comfortably display needs to be larger then what it was over decade ago. Obviously not everyone wants large screen, there are these who want tiny one, but I guess the number of people could be so tinny that phone makers don't even bother to make tinny display phones anymore.

Yes, for some people and that's perfectly fine. Yes, some people might prefer a bigger screen. Some DON'T! I'm not saying "don't offer a big phone", all I'm saying "offer a smaller screen, too". And btw. the number of people wanting smaller screens can't be that tiny or they wouldn't have offered the SE...nor would they have made record sales.

For me the iPhone is a PHONE, yes, with some nice additional functionality. But if I really care about the screen (e.g. for longer reading, movies, etc. pp.) I use my iPad. I personally am a fan of specialized products because I always feel trying to fuse different dive categories only results in compromises...

[Puts hand up] Me, over here. I'm 48. After I got to 46 my eyesight went completely and now I need reading glasses to see my iPhone6Plus screen. I've also read studies that say women prefer larger screen sizes to men.

Well, I must be that odd outlier, then. My hands are too small even for the normal 7, I can't hold it comfortably, I can't really nicely use it with only one hand....wasn't that a pretty successful add way back "you thumb goes from here - to here"? Well...folks at Apple must have strange hands ...


How do you know the specs of future Apple products?

Observation over the years. Also, I wasn't talking about future specs but at those supposed "options" nowadays which aren't really comparable options because of - you guessed it - specs.

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
only a tiny bit wider, but quite a bit taller? And the current iphones have narrow side bezels but thick top/bottom bezels.

If they go almost bezel-less, won't this be a strange aspect ratio? I'd rather have a nice 16:9 screen than something like the Galaxy S8 which is something like 19:9
 
It will more or less copy the form factor of the Samsung S8, I suspect. Which is a good thing.

Although that might depend on where Touch ID will be located.
 
I "upgraded" my iPhone 6 to an SE, rather than an iPhone 7, because I missed the smaller form factor. Surely Apple realizes that many of us still like the small form factor? Heck, I'd love it if they made a phone with the same size screen as the SE but with an even smaller body.
 
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This!

My 6S from work actually feels thicker and heavier than my iPhone 6. (7.1 mm vs 6.9). While an additional 0.8mm sounds like nothing, I'm still slightly worried that it might feel a bit thick at 7.7mm.
are you really worried? .2 of a difference won't change your life. you'll live :*
 
Why though?



No it's not. Take the Macbook Pros for example, or the iMacs. Yes, CPUs may differ, but the general functionality is the same. Whereas in the iPhones, e.g. iPhone SE vs. iPhone 6/6+/7/7+ or no in the iPhone 7 vs. iPhone 7++ is merely artificial. They COULD provide the same functions to the smaller models, if they WANTED. I'm not talking about speed etc but things like 3D touch, camera, ... it just feels like they're pushing people to the larger (and more expensive :rolleyes: ) phones if they want certain functions. Is it really so hard to understand that I might WANT those functions, but simply do not want a huge a** phone? Because it's simply too big for my hands?



Well, they offer "choice", it's just no real choice. See above.



Yes, for some people and that's perfectly fine. Yes, some people might prefer a bigger screen. Some DON'T! I'm not saying "don't offer a big phone", all I'm saying "offer a smaller screen, too". And btw. the number of people wanting smaller screens can't be that tiny or they wouldn't have offered the SE...nor would they have made record sales.

For me the iPhone is a PHONE, yes, with some nice additional functionality. But if I really care about the screen (e.g. for longer reading, movies, etc. pp.) I use my iPad. I personally am a fan of specialized products because I always feel trying to fuse different dive categories only results in compromises...



Well, I must be that odd outlier, then. My hands are too small even for the normal 7, I can't hold it comfortably, I can't really nicely use it with only one hand....wasn't that a pretty successful add way back "you thumb goes from here - to here"? Well...folks at Apple must have strange hands ...




Observation over the years. Also, I wasn't talking about future specs but at those supposed "options" nowadays which aren't really comparable options because of - you guessed it - specs.

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Ehh. No legitimate argument for why apple should provide you a smaller phone with the same technology. Sorry.
 
I "upgraded" my iPhone 6 to an SE, rather than an iPhone 7, because I missed the smaller form factor. Surely Apple realizes that many of us still like the small form factor? Heck, I'd love it if they made a phone with the same size screen as the SE but with an even smaller body.

I think the iPhone SE will be revamped in 2018. It's easily still favored and I commend Apple for bringing it back for the demographic who wanted a smaller form factor. Perhaps reduced bezels and a more rounded design would suit nicely.
 
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Ehh. No legitimate argument for why apple should provide you a smaller phone with the same technology. Sorry.

No legitimate argument why apple should provide you a larger phone with the same technology. :rolleyes:
 
Why is that? If the rumored features come to fruition, it would seem to blow the note out of the water.
which rumoured features?
$1000 price?
thick body?
the fact than only one more "premium",more expensive version gets the OLED screen and edge to edge display?
or those ugly "leaked" images?

yeah they sure blow the Note out of water..

not even close!
 
If this is all glass front and back, with rounded edges, this will be one slippery phone.

I disagree. The smoothness actually gives it more grip. My jet black 7+ is grippy like the iPhone 4 was. The matte finish aluminum slides out of my hand way worse.
 
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The 8, as rumored and recently demoed via dummy unit, reportedly has entirely different physical dimensions (length, width, depth), a different screen size, drastically shrunken bezels and a removed home button (embedded), a completely different back material (glass), a completely different side material (stainless steel), tweaked side buttons and, not that it matters, but a reoriented camera module, too.

That's a copycat physical design? What did you expect them to do, release a phone in the shape of a cube?

If you understand design, there are 1000 ways of creativity to come out a new form. What you said it is the same form then add a little bit from here and there, if you call it a new design, you will be the first one to get fire from my company design team.
 
I think the iPhone SE will be revamped in 2018. It's easily still favored and I commend Apple for bringing it back for the demographic who wanted a smaller form factor. Perhaps reduced bezels and a more rounded design would suit nicely.
Yes, i understand.
But a big selling point of the se is that it is " cheap" for an iphone.
And all the fetures people are suggesting, won' t make it cheap and relatively expensive compared to the bigger models.
 
Apple often waits to do things others have done before, e.g. something as simple as copy & paste not getting into iOS for a while and Apple's stated reason being because they didn't want to do it until they could "do it right". Sometimes that's a lame excuse, sometimes not.

Apple would never phrase it like this but if this next iPhone ends up being a Samsung S8 "done right" then for me that would be close to perfection. By "done right" I mean TouchID on the front, best phone camera out there, and from the thickness rumours it sounds as if for once Ive hasn't won and they won't sacrifice battery size in a quest to make it ever thinner so that, with all the vertical integration and custom silicon that Apple already puts into its phones plus all that silicon being another generation more refined and advanced this year as it is every year, Apple might even be able to offer a phone with significantly better battery life than the Samsung s8 just to top it all off.

This really is shaping up to be my dream phone. A Galaxy S8 running the OS that I am familiar with, supporting the apps that I have already invested in, and with the Samsung design compromises ironed out plus maybe some other added extras thrown in? Works for me.
 
I disagree. The smoothness actually gives it more grip. My jet black 7+ is grippy like the iPhone 4 was. The matte finish aluminum slides out of my hand way worse.

My iPhone 4s with glass actually slide off my coffee table because it wasn't level. The redeeming feature was the hard edges and smaller size which allowed for me to easily hold.

My aluminium iPhone 6 isn't much better because of the rounded edges and larger size, requiring a case to keep it from slipping out of my hands.

It's likely different for everyone depending on hand size, and sweatiness of palms. :)
 
Apple often waits to do things others have done before, e.g. something as simple as copy & paste not getting into iOS for a while and Apple's stated reason being because they didn't want to do it until they could "do it right". Sometimes that's a lame excuse, sometimes not.

Apple would never phrase it like this but if this next iPhone ends up being a Samsung S8 "done right" then for me that would be close to perfection. By "done right" I mean TouchID on the front, best phone camera out there, and from the thickness rumours it sounds as if for once Ive hasn't won and they won't sacrifice battery size in a quest to make it ever thinner so that, with all the vertical integration and custom silicon that Apple already puts into its phones plus all that silicon being another generation more refined and advanced this year as it is every year, Apple might even be able to offer a phone with significantly better battery life than the Samsung s8 just to top it all off.

This really is shaping up to be my dream phone. A Galaxy S8 running the OS that I am familiar with, supporting the apps that I have already invested in, and with the Samsung design compromises ironed out plus maybe some other added extras thrown in? Works for me.
Everybody says apple is so obsessed about thickness. My guess is that they look at the complete picture.
The iphone 6/6s/7 /plus has a lot bezel, but is very thin, makes it easier to handle.
With the rumored iphone 8 , there is almost no bezel , so it is okay when it is thicker, you don' t actually touch the screen so easy, and you have more body to curl your fingers around, and that works. I think there is a lot more thought put in apple designs, than just making it as thin as possible.
 
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