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I think it's apples way of preventing unnecessary software issues resulting from hard resets. Many people unnecessarily hard reset their phones a lot. Where a simple reboot would be more effective and less destructive.
 
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Launch day of brand new state of the art iPhone 8 and we're already talking about DFU mode & hard resets. Pity.
Had to reset a friend’s 7+ day after I installed 11 for him. I had to look up hard reset for the phone. I couldn’t remember the combo.
 
Ooh, a little late. I tried to do this yesterday night after I finished installing and updating everything on my new phone. I googled how to do it on the 7 and was looking at the TV when it made this unsettling siren. I almost notified the police...
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I think it's apples way of preventing unnecessary software issues resulting from hard resets. Many people unnecessarily hard reset their phones a lot. Where a simple reboot would be more effective and less destructive.
What's the different between restarting your phone and turning it off and back on?
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Interestingly, with it off, pressing the side button five times still disables TouchID, but no SOS screen comes up.

That's actually a neat little tidbit. Thank you.

EDIT: Not the case with mine..
 
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I think it's apples way of preventing unnecessary software issues resulting from hard resets. Many people unnecessarily hard reset their phones a lot. Where a simple reboot would be more effective and less destructive.
Don't think I've really come across a hard reset causing any real issues.
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Holding the side buttons now enables SOS mode and locks out touch id and face id.
Not on iPhone 7, for example. There was a reason that made sense for the process to change with iPhone 7 and the new home button, but in this case it doesn't really make that much sense that suddenly it's different for iPhone 8 when as far as buttons go and all that it seems that it's basically the same as iPhone 7.
 
This is quite the problematic launch.

Good thing The Ten wasn't launched concurrently. It probably would have added even more headaches for Apple, USA.

I had to checked while in the AT&T store the salesman kept talking about the 'X', the 'X', when apple wants it to be known as the Ten. That's a missed Mark, as well.

Almost everyone I now calls it the „X“ instead of the „10“...
Even I keep catching myself reading it as „X“ when I see it in an article.
 
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The 7 is available in their current lineup and is hardly “old”.

Go figure. :confused:

The 7 is last year phone. Like I said, old phones will stay the same and going forward new phone such as the 8 or X will have the new button procedure. It doesn’t make sense to go back and change it on older phones after millions of people already know it one way, which is why only new phones will get this treatment, new phone, new way of doing things. Like it or not, it is what it is.
 
The 7 is last year phone. Like I said, old phones will stay the same and going forward new phone such as the 8 or X will have the new button procedure. It doesn’t make sense to go back and change it on older phones after millions of people already know it one way, which is why only new phones will get this treatment, new phone, new way of doing things. Like it or not, it is what it is.

By that logic the iPhone 7 shouldn’t get iOS 11 at all.
 
What the...?

What was wrong with pressing the side button and volume button simultaneously?

Ridiculous combination.
The combination is fine. What I find puzzling is that they didn’t make it consistent across their product lines.
 
What the...?
What was wrong with pressing the side button and volume button simultaneously?
Ridiculous combination.

From the article:
The change appears to have been made because, on iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, pressing and holding the Side aka Sleep/Wake button and one of the Volume buttons now activates the Emergency SOS feature.

I suppose that they could have retained the side button and volume button combo for hard resetting the phone and set the Emergency SOS feature to the new Volume Up, Volume Down, Side button combo. But then we would probably all complain that nobody is going to remember, be steady enough or have the time to "press and quickly release the Volume Up button, then press and quickly release the Volume Down button and finally press and hold the Side button and wait for the SOS screen to pop up" in the middle of an emergency.
 
Pressing the sleep/wake button 5 times rapidly activates SOS on the 7 Plus.

The iPhone 7 and 8 have the same physical layout so why have they broken consistency?

Because without Jobs there is no consistency with anything. Its like whatever you all want as long as we make a lot of money.
 
Ok, so they choose to use a method everyone was use to to now activate emergency sos? How many people will be trying to reset not knowing and then activate sos by mistake?

That is how I discovered this... I was trying to do a hard reset and that SOS screen came up and I was surprised.
 
UP UP
DOWN DOWN
LEFT RIGHT
LEFT RIGHT
B A B

#contra

Contra with 30 lives....after doing dfu hard reset on ip8 plus at the apple store.


Ha. Wow.. I was only off 1 action?
1) Impressive recall of useless info, some 30-years later. #stillgotit #neverhadit
2) Talk about something I never thought to consider I would revisit 30 years later. #bizarro
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Almost everyone I now calls it the „X“ instead of the „10“...
Even I keep catching myself reading it as „X“ when I see it in an article.

Maybe if you start calling it the VIII, that will help with the X?
 
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By that logic the iPhone 7 shouldn’t get iOS 11 at all.

No, you are not making sense and it isn’t worth trying to explain to you if you cannot understand the logic behind Apple decision to leave the reset function on older phones the same but to change it on newer phones going forward. It really is not that hard to understand.
 
Another way to reset the iPhone is to plug it into your computer and open iTunes and go to the App Store and... oh wait... never mind.

I’m prettt sure you can still do this, even though they have eliminated the App Store. Everything else seems to work the same for me once I plug my phone into my Mac.
 
I’m prettt sure you can still do this, even though they have eliminated the App Store. Everything else seems to work the same for me once I plug my phone into my Mac.
I restored my iPhone 8 from iTunes and the only difference I noticed was before the apps would all be copied over from my Mac to the phone, and now with the new iTunes it just setup with what looked like placeholders for the apps then the apps were all downloaded from the App Store.
 
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I restored my iPhone 8 from iTunes and the only difference I noticed was before the apps would all be copied over from my Mac to the phone, and now with the new iTunes it just setup with what looked like placeholders for the apps then the apps were all downloaded from the App Store.

I have yet to even view the app placeholder portion. I just use iTunes via Mac for backups and syncs. And have yet to notice a difference.
 
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Nice, when you need it, you will have forgotten how it works and are ideally away from a computer outside.

Also, side button? What?

I restored my iPhone 8 from iTunes and the only difference I noticed was before the apps would all be copied over from my Mac to the phone, and now with the new iTunes it just setup with what looked like placeholders for the apps then the apps were all downloaded from the App Store.
What about apps that are not on the App Store anymore at all?

Apparently I can manually drag them over from iTunes, but that would mean a fresh app install and app data is gone, no?

What a horrible mess, local app backups that can easily be redeployed along their data was one of the key advantages over Android for me.

Well, at least this eases in a possible move to Android one day a lot better.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
What about apps that are not on the App Store anymore at all?

Apparently I can manually drag them over from iTunes, but that would mean a fresh app install and app data is gone, no?
They would be gone unless you saved them locally for a manual install form iTunes like you mentioned. I don't know what happens to the data from that in this scenario.
 
They would be gone unless you saved them locally for a manual install form iTunes like you mentioned. I don't know what happens to the data from that in this scenario.

This all depends on whether you accepted the terms of Agreement on iTunes 12.7. I said no, and can still use iTunes 12.6 instead and none of my apps are gone. By doing this, you can easily relocate them to stop Apple from deleting them.

I personally think someone should start a class action against Apple for deleting your apps without warning. It's the moral equivalent of stealing from you just by getting you to click OK to take all your stuff from your house.
 
This all depends on whether you accepted the terms of Agreement on iTunes 12.7. I said no, and can still use iTunes 12.6 instead and none of my apps are gone. By doing this, you can easily relocate them to stop Apple from deleting them.

I personally think someone should start a class action against Apple for deleting your apps without warning. It's the moral equivalent of stealing from you just by getting you to click OK to take all your stuff from your house.
Apple did not delete anything. If you installed iTunes 12.7 all your iOS are still there on your mac where they always were. You will need to manually delete them if you want to free up that space.
 
This all depends on whether you accepted the terms of Agreement on iTunes 12.7. I said no, and can still use iTunes 12.6 instead and none of my apps are gone. By doing this, you can easily relocate them to stop Apple from deleting them.

I personally think someone should start a class action against Apple for deleting your apps without warning. It's the moral equivalent of stealing from you just by getting you to click OK to take all your stuff from your house.

A class action lawsuit would be totally useless. You can redownload any app on the AppStore from the device it is used on. I applaud Apple for this move.
 
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