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iPhone 8: How to Hard Reset or Force Restart

ke-iron said:
Simply because they want people who are upgrading now to get used to the new format of how things will be done on the newer phones. They could've with the iPhone 7 release, yes, but they didn't for reasons we do not know. All we can do is take educated guess and speculate until it is revealed to us why it was done that way. I have stated the reason why I think they have done it that way, and I'll have to wait and see if my guess was correct, that's all.
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Surely you don't expect all their devices to have the same interface throughout when they have significantly bigger screen such as the iPad when compared to the iPhone. If you read my post and previous posts you would know I am referring to hardware uniformity on iPhones, specifically the side buttons based on what I have written, and what my discussion was about. I'm really not sure how or why you went off to talk about laptops and desktops... You don't like things with their products fine, but when you reply to my posts it would be nice if you could stay on topic of what I'm actually talking about, thanks.
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Agreed. I did not read the context of the previous posts. Makes sense, thanks for expelling.
 
ke-iron said:
After thinking some more I strongly believe it has something to do with the fact that people who own the iPhone 7 and previous iPhones already know to do it that way in case of an emergency. Why change it on an existing phone for millions of people who already know or use it that way? If an emergency arises, they wan't to be able to invoke the feature the way they know how. Apple do not want to be in news headlines of activating emergency feature fails... However going forward with newer phones there will be a new way of doing certain things, makes sense.
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Well, if/when there would be a newer way to do something that would rationally explain the difference we'll know, if that happens, but so far aside from simply guessing that "it's probably for some reason" without really even having an idea of what that could be still leaves it all out as currently questionable.
 
alleggerita said:
And why is this not implemented on the 7 and 7 Plus too when the 7 and 8 has, most likely, the same volume and side button.
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Exactly.

ke-iron said:
The reason to us will always be unknown because we don’t know Apple product roadmap and how their designs will change. I suspect the reason they change this on both new iPhones and going forward, has something to do with a future design change. Perhaps similar to the iPhone 7 that lacks a physical home button which is the reason we cannot use it to hard restart the phone. The future iPhones may lack physical buttons on the side prohibiting us from using the current method on the iPhone 7 that we use for hard restarts. This is the most logical explanation I can come up with. But then again Apple has people way smarter than us consumers working for them.
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So how would this new change work better going forward? It still requires having the same physical buttons that are currently on the iP7 and 8 and X series.
 
sbailey4 said:
Exactly.

So how would this new change work better going forward? It still requires having the same physical buttons that are currently on the iP7 and 8 and X series.
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I'm only speculating, on some of my other posts I have other speculations as well, this is just one of them. Thanks.
 
How about a simple hold the power (side) button for 10-15 seconds to hard reboot? Do we really need some abstract combo? So a 5 sec hold loads the shut down option and a longer hold initiates a hard reboot. Simple. And on ALL devices to be consistent. I doubt there will ever be a time when there is no physical power (side, top, whatever) button at all.
 
sbailey4 said:
How about a simple hold the power (side) button for 10-15 seconds to hard reboot? Do we really need some abstract combo? So a 5 sec hold loads the shut down option and a longer hold initiates a hard reboot. Simple. And on ALL devices to be consistent. I doubt there will ever be a time when there is no physical power (side, top, whatever) button at all.
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Holding down a single button on its own is prone to more inadvertent/accidental activations, which is likely why it's not something that's usually used as a activation action on its own.
 
C DM said:
Holding down a single button on its own is prone to more inadvertent/accidental activations, which is likely why it's not something that's usually used as a activation action on its own.
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It would be hard to "accidently" hold a button for 15 seconds. And if somehow you did it would simply restart the device so no real harm done.
 
sbailey4 said:
It would be hard to "accidently" hold a button for 15 seconds. And if somehow you did it would simply restart the device so no real harm done.
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Well, the idea is that it could lean on something in your pocket or purse or something like that. It seems like it's one of those things that was more or less accepted petty much industry-wide some time ago and not that likely that it would change.
 
C DM said:
As in things that were said since iOS 7 days at least, if not even way earlier back in iPod announcement days when Apple was deemed to be doomed by many for simply coming out with yet another MP3 player. And yet here we are...
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Other people might have said similar things... now I am saying them. Expect doom to begin shortly.
 
groovyd said:
Other people might have said similar things... now I am saying them. Expect doom to begin shortly.
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But in reality they will continue to sell like hot cakes and Apple will remain one of the most valuable companies ever.
 
ke-iron said:
A class action lawsuit would be totally useless. You can redownload any app on the AppStore from the device it is used on. I applaud Apple for this move.
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Wrong. Apple has repeatedly deleted apps from your records for various reasons, not the least of which could be things like the app not adhering to Apple's developer guidelines.

In case of malicious apps that would mostly be fine by me, although I'd still appreciate an option to make my own choice, however there are cases where it's simply a matter of Apple's philosophy not wishing to support a particular app concept (like an emulator for example).

iTunes makes it possible to install and use ANY app you backed up, you are independent of the App Store still having the app in their general record (mind you, I do not mean the catalogue you can actively buy, which is a narrower selection).

Another great example why I don't feel any incentive to trust the cloud more than my own local backups.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
C DM said:
OK, but why is SOS then different on iPhone 8 and X when it can work the same way that it does on iPhone 7 (and earlier phones) and this not interfere with the reset procedure that already existing? As you can see, the underlying question still remains.
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I can’t answer that. I was only addressing the fact that some people were complaining about things that were literally explained in the article. I do know that Apple doesn’t likely set out to make things more difficult for people, and that the vast majority of the time they do things for logical, design driven reasons, so I’m guessing there is a good reason for why they changed the SOS and rest buttons. But you’d have to ask them for the actual answer.
 
sidewinder3000 said:
I can’t answer that. I was only addressing the fact that some people were complaining about things that were literally explained in the article. I do know that Apple doesn’t likely set out to make things more difficult for people, and that the vast majority of the time they do things for logical, design driven reasons, so I’m guessing there is a good reason for why they changed the SOS and rest buttons. But you’d have to ask them for the actual answer.
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It's interesting though that with all the discussions of this online people can't quite come up with even just some reason (let alone a good one) for it, aside from basically saying that Apple must have done it for a reason and nothing beyond that.
 
1: Press VOLUM DOWN BUTTON + POWER BUTTON for 5 seconds and your iPhone will restart.
Worked!!! well on my iPhone 7 Plus
 
Greg McBride said:
About 45 minutes ago, my 8 Plus locked up and I had to get on a chat session with Apple Support to figure out how to force restart. Wish this article would have been pushed live about an hour ago! :)
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It would be helpful if this worked.

I just got my iPhone8 plus - I am underwhelmed. I wish I'd stuck with my IPhone 6

For all the hype - it's that much better

and the volume up volume down - hold - doesn't work - and Blue tooth connection and finding blue tooth items sucks - but that's been happening even on my iPhone 6 - after an update a while back.
 
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