iPhone 8 May Use Apple's In-House Inductive Wireless Charging Rather Than Technology From Energous

[jlo1158]

I agree it would be awesome to have it built into cell towers, but wireless in-home charging would be a great start.

Maybe by the time that technology is available it won't really matter anyways because battery tech will have made some advances. The future needs great batteries if we are to be so depended on electricity.

The cell phone tower sounds like a good except for the 15' range thing. I guess it would explain the crowds of people gathered at the base of cell phone towers in the future though.



disclosure: I did know what you were talking about. I just had to say it though.
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For the same reason you don't want to plug a cable to receive data on your phone/tablet or laptop, but you would rather use wireless data. In theory, real wireless charging is brilliant (not the mat thingy) because you get to use your phone while charging it and moving around. And when it takes off, these could be everywhere, just like wifi. Cafe places,gym, supermarkets, train stations, airports, airplanes, everywhere...... to the point you would rarely ever need to do anything about charging and you would forget or never bother to look at the battery indicator. The key to success on this technology is safety and efficiency. If they can overcome these 2, then it would be revolutionary.

You do make good points. I'm not sure you're bundling it with efficiency but if not I think range is the most important. Imagine that you had to have expensive wireless routers in every room in your house. I wouldn't be happy if my router only had a 15' range.

 

[maikerukun]

Airpods still use plain ol Bluetooth for audio and not even aptx quality but plain old a2dp.

They just pretend it's different in the way it pairs using the w1 thing.

I've personally never had any trouble with Bluetooth 4 pairing as soon as I turn my headphones on with my galaxy s7

So to be clear you own a Galaxy, NOT an iPhone, but you are critiquing an iPhone's pairing?

You should probably own the product you are critiquing no?

 

[smoking monkey]

And yet you'll still have the cable connecting the charging mat sitting on your table and it will take twice as long to charge. No thanks. True wireless charging would be interesting but not inductive charging mats.

Indeed. I mentioned that in my post too!
It's better having the cable hidden away though. BUT... if it takes twice as long to charge then that's a bit of a bummer!

I doubt this rumour will come to fruition, but I guess we'll find out in 2018. I have a bad feeling that all these great things Apple have planned aren't quite ready for this year. I hope I'm wrong though.

 

[jlo1158]

Indeed. I mentioned that in my post too!
It's better having the cable hidden away though. BUT... if it takes twice as long to charge then that's a bit of a bummer!

I doubt this rumour will come to fruition, but I guess we'll find out in 2018. I have a bad feeling that all these great things Apple have planned aren't quite ready for this year. I hope I'm wrong though.

You do realize fast charging on a mat is about the same as regular charging on a cord don't you?
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So to be clear you own a Galaxy, NOT an iPhone, but you are critiquing an iPhone's pairing?

You should probably own the product you are critiquing no?

Maybe things like this is why some people don't own the IPhone. If a person does own the phone it doesn't mean they can't complain about certain features they don't like. Some things aren't as clear as they seem.

 

[ronf129]

Really? Everyone is already bitching about "features" and "standards" on stuff that hasn't even been RUMORED to be a product yet?

Even judging from the pictures, we have no idea how these features are meant to be used. Maybe its a way to transfer charge from one device to another? Maybe it really is for full charging. Maybe its a method to allow incidental charging?

 

[ValO]

get ready for a metric ton of apple charging accessories. IKEA does some for the android/nokia standard, but almost certainly Apple will go their own route.


Also, while not as interesting as long-range wireless charging, this is still a good alternative. Even though I have the lightning dock, I find it a little frustrating to put my iphone 6S+ on it, often sliding it around for quite a while trying to find the hole. Probably scratching up the bottom of my phone over time too.

And when I have it on my bedside table, I need a cable hanging around - a wireless charger under the table surface, or as a dock that doesn't need precision mating would be great. I made one a few years ago for my nokia 930 and a business card holder and it was very handy.

I see apple introducing iphones with the three pin smart connector on the back, so we can put it on a charging mat that also has the threepin smart connector. So no, you won't be able to put it everywhere on the mat. Place will be fixed. But this has an upside. They could create a mat wit an usb c cable, so you can sync it with your mac or even ipad. In the future that would eliminate the use of the lightning connector or any other connector.(but you need free airpods (lite?) that comes with the iphone/ipad or something like that).

 

[mi7chy]

In-house means taking the cheapest off-the-shelf wireless charging technology, probably Qi, make it proprietary to profit off of expensive Apple branded charging accessories. What would've cost $15 will cost $50.

 

[jlo1158]

I see apple introducing iphones with the three pin smart connector on the back, so we can put it on a charging mat that also has the threepin smart connector. So no, you won't be able to put it everywhere on the mat. Place will be fixed. But this has an upside. They could create a mat wit an usb c cable, so you can sync it with your mac or even ipad. In the future that would eliminate the use of the lightning connector or any other connector.(but you need free airpods (lite?) that comes with the iphone/ipad or something like that).

It seems like eliminating the lightning connector for the threepin smart connector would create a problem that doesn't exist now. According to the renders I've seen so far with the smart connector on the back of the phone that is. I just don't see a very good way to charge the phone without using a dock.

 

[ValO]

It seems like eliminating the lightning connector for the threepin smart connector would create a problem that doesn't exist now. According to the renders I've seen so far with the smart connector on the back of the phone that is. I just don't see a very good way to charge the phone without using a dock.

It will eventually be a step to create single peece of glass iphones without holes and mechanical buttons. And that will be the ultimate iphone according to Ive.

 

[jlo1158]

It will eventually be a step to create single peece of glass iphones without holes and mechanical buttons. And that will be the ultimate iphone according to Ive.

That is probably correct. I'm just trying to see a way to charge the phone without a dock using the smart connector. Currently there's a plug. The three little contacts on the lower back of the phone don't seem to have a very good way to attach a charger. If there are plans to use something similar to the mag safe plug it would have to have fairly strong magnets.

 

[ValO]

That is probably correct. I'm just trying to see a way to charge the phone without a dock using the smart connector. Currently there's a plug. The three little contacts on the lower back of the phone don't seem to have a very good way to attach a charger. If there are plans to use something similar to the mag safe plug it would have to have fairly strong magnets.

What about a flat charging mat with three contact points, that connect through a magnet , like the current smart keyboard on the ipad pro?

 

[Delgibbons]

So to be clear you own a Galaxy, NOT an iPhone, but you are critiquing an iPhone's pairing?

You should probably own the product you are critiquing no?

Hmm....I have an ipad mini 2 I'm actually still pretty happy with. Love the mini video overlay multitasking, still very snappy browsing considering its age, very handy having the LTE built in - something only apple seems to have got right on a tablet thus far. Battery life also not bad still. I would definitely consider any new ipad mini that appeared. iOS 10 is ok, although i still find the whole widget situation a little odd.

I have a number of reasons for not getting an iPhone. Personally i find iTunes a big bag of hurt. I hear many of my friends complain about battery life. I use the VR a lot for watching films and gaming and like having a whole bunch of them saved offline on microSD. I have several albums of 24bit FLAC audio files which playback on my phone without an additional headphone amp. Although I have a fair amount invested in the apple ecosystem of apps and have regularly updated my ipad, I don't feel it would benefit me having an iPhone today but like to keep up with technology from everyone so I can make an informed decision. I had the iphone 3g when it came out, I also own an old school ipod touch which I jailbroke.

I wasn't criticising it's pairing I was criticising it's audio quality over Bluetooth, specifically the airpods. Big difference. If you've tried aptx Bluetooth headphones the sound is noticeably better.

Surely you would concede that Apple missed a trick not going for even 16 bit lossless audio streaming (whether via lightning or uhdaudio over bluetooth) and giving a real reason to lose the analogue headphone jack? "Hey guys we removed the Jack BUT now the hi def DAC let's you stream apple lossless or flac or DSD with no degradation in quality, so we took away but most certainly gave you something back".

Also, back on topic, wireless charging in the S7 is handy to have. Just plonk the phone down and it charges. Charging speed is pretty quick too as I have the fast charging mat. It's not the be all and end all in its current form though, believe me.

 

[jlo1158]

What about a flat charging mat with three contact points, that connect through a magnet , like the current smart keyboard on the ipad pro?

The thing I'm getting at is charging without a mat. Just using a stand alone connector.

 

[mazz0]

I really hope this is wrong! Wireless charging that has to be in contact is almost pointless, you might as well just use a wired dock! Also, proprietary systems are such a pain in the arse Apple!
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Imagine if you had to place your laptop ON the router in order to get “wireless” Internet.

Exactly, and that analogy lends itself to another part of this rumour - imagine if you had to use an Apple router to get internet on your Apple devices!

 

[smacrumon]

Oh nononono, you don't put a charging pad in a palm rest. That defeats the entire purpose of a palm rest.

And Apple, Qi exists. Use it.

Exactly. When I'm using my devices, I don't want other devices cluttered up on each other.

 

[BvizioN]

You do make good points. I'm not sure you're bundling it with efficiency but if not I think range is the most important. Imagine that you had to have expensive wireless routers in every room in your house. I wouldn't be happy if my router only had a 15' range.

I would say there would be different types, based on their strength ( same as with WiFi routers) with the ones for personal use at home being the weakest. I am fine with 5 meters range at home.I don't expect to charge it wiresly while I am at garden but placed in the room where I spend must of my time at home would ensure I never run out of juice on my device.

 

[ValO]

Wireless charging is not going to happen this year unfortunately. It is not efficient enough, there are too many questions about health related issues and radiation, etc. And they would have to start production of about 20 millions of these iphones in 6 months.

Sorry, not going to happen this year.
We' ll get inductive charging this year, though. Nothing new. We' ll get a curved oled model this year and a new design, we' ll get one without a visible homebutton and touchid, a better camera, a better soc, upgraded cellular, bluetooth, better siri.
But wireless charging? No
Wait for the 2018 iphone, that will be a killer!
(We have been saying this about the iphone 7, the last 2 years, so don' t hold your breath)

 

[smoking monkey]

You do realize fast charging on a mat is about the same as regular charging on a cord don't you?

I was referring to another poster claiming that wireless charging was 2 times as fast as mat charging. That's the bummer.
You're the 2nd poster in a row to reply to me and not read correctly.

Stop and smell the roses...

 

[paradoxx2010]

Apple. PLZ... I have been a fan for years, but now im beginning to see Apple as just a money machine whit no interest to make new stuff... They introduce technology as "new and inoativ" but in reality its 5 + years old.. Wireless charging, ooo, nooo, its going safe, with old technology (they will promote it as new inovation, but in reality its old). Wow you can charge the phone and the clock on wireless on you mac, not a wow factor.! You still need a wire to charge you mac (and you'll ned a mac).
Not implessed.!!
My prediction for the 10 year anniversary iPhone = Same phone as iphone 7. New fixed fingerprint sensor (located at same spot as iPhone 7). Wireless charging (just like the clock, it wil come with a magnet that clicks on). Better prosessor and 1 GB more ram. Support for new BT standards. No edge to edge display. More pixle density in the disply. Better camera (the hole line up gets the same camera as the iphone 7 pluss "dual camera"). No more fancy stuff. Just an other uppgrade of the old phone.

 

[AsherN]

There is nothing about inductive charging that makes it better than wired charging. That means you won't be able to pick up your phone while it's charging unless you pick up the charging dock/pad as well. I never will understand this.

If your argument is that it's much easier to just drop the phone on a pad rather than sticking the charger into the phone, give me a break. You're talking a second or two at most.

I use my phone as my night table alarm clock. I have a charging stand that charges my watch and stands my phone. When I go to bed late, i don't want to turn on a light so to not wake my wife. Trying to connect the little Lightning connector in the dark is challenging. When I had my Nexus5, it was just a matter of placing it on the stand.

 

[Born Again]

another standard..

apple - why dont you make it compatible with QI

Qi (pronounced CHEE; IPA: /tʃiː/, meaning "natural energy") is an open interface standard developed by the Wireless Power Consortium

wooo hooo! QI is coming ! hot phones here we come
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According to you, QI is a standard? Why does Apple have to make it compatible with QI? Apple will likely use their own method of the way they incorporate wireless charging.

Placing the iPhone on a mat isn't exactly that far superior over plugging into a wall. Using a Mat means the iPhone has to be placed properly for it to charge and isn't always practical for everyday purposes.

lol - need some help wiping the pie off your face?

Let me guess now youll give QI a chance?!

 

[kdarling]

If your argument is that it's much easier to just drop the phone on a pad rather than sticking the charger into the phone, give me a break. You're talking a second or two at most.

It also does not stress a connector, or even need an opening for one, if you don't want to keep a wired option.

The Apple Watch is a good example of that scenario.

However, I'd want both options in a phone.

 

[gnasher729]

Will this indeed be ready for iPhone 8 or are we speculative at this time?

I'd speculate that this will be ready for iPhone 8

 

[Beenblacklisted]

Wireless charging is not going to happen this year unfortunately. It is not efficient enough, there are too many questions about health related issues and radiation, etc. And they would have to start production of about 20 millions of these iphones in 6 months.

Sorry, not going to happen this year.
We' ll get inductive charging this year, though. Nothing new. We' ll get a curved oled model this year and a new design, we' ll get one without a visible homebutton and touchid, a better camera, a better soc, upgraded cellular, bluetooth, better siri.
But wireless charging? No
Wait for the 2018 iphone, that will be a killer!
(We have been saying this about the iphone 7, the last 2 years, so don' t hold your breath)

a curved oled? sound slike the s8 to me or the s7edge

 

[ValO]

a curved oled? sound slike the s8 to me or the s7edge

It seems that it won' t be a curved oled, according to the rumors. And i think that is even better, more real usable screen estate.
And like the s7 edge or s8?
I don' t hope for apple they have the same salesnumbers as these models.