'iPhone 8' Production on Schedule for September Launch, October Sales

[d5aqoëp]

they can do whatever they want with the 8, if my dying iPhone 6 can make it to september/october I'll be looking at the '7S' model or a google pixel 2. all I want at this point is a device that won't be limping across the line when it reaches the two year mark.

iPhone 6 and especially 6 Plus were the most underpowered devices for their size. Just like iPhone 4 was underpowered for it's size.
I expect iPhone 8 to be underpowered. Apple debuts new size/resolution by deliberately including poor GPU. It happened with iPad 3/Air 1 as well.

 

[neutralguy]

iOS is just such a more refined OS than Android. I like the freedom and options of android but the OS is no where close to iOS quality.

I use iPhone. The last android phone I had was the horrible Motorola Atrix. My son has an android tablet. Rest of our families on iPhone and Mac.

Given all that, I am still intrigued why you said that iPhone is a more refined OS. What does iPhone do that is superior to android? Can you please elaborate?

 

[tann]

Smaller bezels will be most welcome, anywhere over £699 to start for a 5.7" variant is too ambitious though.
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I'm currently using the Galaxy S8 love the Oled screen on this beast. But if Apple incorporate the OLED bezel-less design in the next iPhone my S8 is going on eBay loool

iOS is just such a more refined OS than Android. I like the freedom and options of android but the OS is no where close to iOS quality.

I agree iOS is a bit more refined, but personally the freedom far outweighs any refinement. I find myself a lot less frustrated with my S7e than I was with my 6S+.

 

[Larry The L]

Of course there's no more delays. Apple paid $1 USD/per hour more to whip (literally) the workers

And you have proof of this? Or is it just another bash Apple kind of thing?

 

[UL2RA]

And you have proof of this? Or is it just another bash Apple kind of thing?

It's another bash Apple kind of thing.


As for this news, hopefully it's true. My wallet is ready.

 

[Zirel]

So same rumors as always, also same release date as always.
Who would have thought...

"But but but it's KGI", how dare you to contradict KGI Ming Chi Kuo. The same genius that said the AW will come out in 2014, and the iPhone 6 Plus would come after Christmas an not with the regular one, etc...

These people pretend that Apple doesn't have the iPhone Update Program and that these things don't have to come like clockwork or it's trouble for Apple.
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So, the consensus of the analysts, speculators and bedroom photoshoppers is that the iPhone 8 design is going to be a blatant knockoff of the Samsung Galaxy S8 - even down to the rear-mounted fingerprint sensor which seems to be about the only criticism of the S8 in reviews...?

I sincerely hope and expect that Apple are "thinking different".

If not, guys, please copy the S8's headphone socket and MicroSD slot while you're at it... (flap, oink!)

Nobody cares about the S8.

 

[filmantopia]

Let's hope apple put touch id sensor under the display,

Touch id on the back is a bad idea, i will pass

It's not really a matter of idea. It's whether the tech for Touch-ID under the display was feasible enough for mass production this year.

If pressed up against the wall, I'd rather have Touch-ID on the back than large bezels on the front again.

 

[TurboPGT!]

Tim Cook was pretty clear on the earnings call that they learned a lot from the 7 Plus launch, and they plan to apply what they learned to future product launches.

Obviously they know this long-awaited tech-packed very-very-new new iPhone is going to be under heavy demand.
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These people pretend that Apple doesn't have the iPhone Update Program and that these things don't have to come like clockwork or it's trouble for Apple.

Bingo.

Apple would not have gotten into this game of lease/upgrade programs if they didn't intend on keeping to it. They have to release the product right on schedule, practically down to the week.

Any lapse of that is huge trouble, because it means a customer is forced to make an additional payment(s) for each month beyond the 12 month mark. I'm not paying for 13 months or more when I'm entitled to pay 12 months, and start over in would-be-month-13 with a new iPhone.

 

[ovo6]

Take my money already

 

[bt311]

The outrage over the (allegedly) rear-mounted fingerprint reader is getting tiresome. The more I read it the more convinced I am that:

1. People have not used a phone with rear-mounted fingerprint reader.
2. The complaint is not really about the usability, but about the look.
3. Some people associate rear-mounted fingerprint readers with Android phones, over which they have irrational fear/hatred.

The on-screen home button as on the S8, even without a fingerprint reader embedded, is not intuitive to use. Due to its invisibility it does not give you a secure and satisfying feel even when you successfully register a "3D Touch" to get back to the home screen, and live contents of 3rd party apps do not help in that matter because people's intuition is not to obstruct what is being displayed. Having to correctly register fingerprint reader will make that process a lot more cumbersome.

TL/DR; Even if the technology is available and ready to be employed on a mass scale, on-screen fingerprint reader is not an improvement as far as user experience is concerned. It is more likely going to be a regression. It will, however, provide a cleaner look on the back of phone's body, and that appears to be what most complaints are obsessed about.

 

[theluggage]

have you held the s8 next to the iphone 7? with the screen off they look exactly alike.

Have you?
The S8 has a screen with curved edges that partly wrap around the left & right sides of the phone, making the screen edge-to-edge, with tiny bezels at the top and bottom.
Even if you choose to compare a black iPhone with a black S8 and squint so that you can't distinguish screen from bezel you'll probably notice the big round home button on the front of the iPhone - where the S8 has screen.

Or are we back to the silly "rounded rectangle" thing that never was a thing, just a cherry pick from the laundry list of properties that made up the design patent for the original iPhone, which Samsung gave up copying five years ago?

 

[mi7chy]

Apple is under pressure to deliver a new iPhone that catches up with Samsung S8 but is five months sufficient to redesign it when development usually starts a few years in advance?

 

[shk718]

Have you?
The S8 has a screen with curved edges that partly wrap around the left & right sides of the phone, making the screen edge-to-edge, with tiny bezels at the top and bottom.
Even if you choose to compare a black iPhone with a black S8 and squint so that you can't distinguish screen from bezel you'll probably notice the big round home button on the front of the iPhone - where the S8 has screen.

Or are we back to the silly "rounded rectangle" thing that never was a thing, just a cherry pick from the laundry list of properties that made up the design patent for the original iPhone, which Samsung gave up copying five years ago?

you didn't read my post. I said - with the screen turned off you can't tell the two apart. They look almost exactly the same. When you turn on the screen then you see smaller bezels. People are saying that Samsung is "out-designing apple" simply because they put in a larger display. The shape of the phones are nearly identical. A bezel-less iPhone is something Jony Ives has wanted to make for years. This has been reported on for several years now. It's only this year that any screen manufacturer has been able to make a screen, in quantity, that allows for this.

 

[mebehere]

they can do whatever they want with the 8, if my dying iPhone 6 can make it to september/october I'll be looking at the '7S' model or a google pixel 2. all I want at this point is a device that won't be limping across the line when it reaches the two year mark.

What problems are you having with your 6?

 

[jamesrick80]

have you held the s8 next to the iphone 7? with the screen off they look exactly alike. with the screen on the S8 has a slightly larger screen. Samsung once again is copying Apple (not the other way around) but using inferior internal components - Iphone's processor is faster, S8 is using last years camera, touch id is in a weird place.

This is so laughable. Holding the S8 is holding the most beautiful phone in the world with the most advanced technology and many more features than an iphone. The iphone 7 looks archaic and old school next to that device. It astounds me how much iphone fanboys will go to make the iphone seem better; unbelievable!!!!! Even when the screen is off you can surely tell the difference unless you are blind which you are not; you're telling me that you cant see the iphone's massive bezels...i can see that a mile away and do your research before discussing the camera etc.!!!!!

 

[Paul6s]

Actually I'm starting to think that the Plus line will be discontinued and instead along with 7s and 7s Plus, we will just get an Iphone 8 since it will have both the large screen and small form factor at the same time.

 

[44267547]

Let's hope apple put touch id sensor under the display,

Touch id on the back is a bad idea, i will pass

It's not really a matter of idea. It's whether the tech for Touch-ID under the display was feasible enough for mass production this year.

If pressed up against the wall, I'd rather have Touch-ID on the back than large bezels on the front again.

This. I agree with Filmantopia. Touch ID embedded in the display will only happen if it's ready for implementation over what's consider a "Bad idea." I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea, as it is inconvenient for the user.

Apple will likely Revamp the display and reduce the bezels, which if Touch ID is remapped back of the iPhone (Which I believe it will be) it will be temporary until the home button is embedded.

The technology is already available in the display with 3D Touch recognizing a firm press , it just needs a fingerprint reader some how implemented to complete the process incorporated into the other layers of the display.

 

[shk718]

This is so laughable. Holding the S8 is holding the most beautiful phone in the world with the most advanced technology and many more features than an iphone. The iphone 7 looks archaic and old school next to that device. It astounds me how much iphone fanboys will go to make the iphone seem better; unbelievable!!!!! Even when the screen is off you can surely tell the difference unless you are blind which you are not; you're telling me that you cant see the iphone's massive bezels...i can see that a mile away and do your research before discussing the camera etc.!!!!!

OMG - read what i said - when the phones are turned OFF they look very similar. They all have the EXACT same shape and about the same thickness - i'm not talking about the bezels. When the phone screens are turned on then you can see the difference. Look at the jet black iphone next to the s8 - there are very few differences. Please list all the advanced technology that the S8 has (besides the screen - i've already acknowledged that its a great screen). you said "many more features" - again - please list.

 

[routine_analyst]

This product looks terrible.

If that's truely what the iPhone 8 will look like, then I'll begin looking at other options when I think about replacing my iPhone 6S+

 

[jamesrick80]

OMG - read what i said - when the phones are turned OFF they look very similar. They all have the EXACT same shape and about the same thickness - i'm not talking about the bezels. When the phone screens are turned on then you can see the difference. Look at the jet black iphone next to the s8 - there are very few differences. Please list all the advanced technology that the S8 has (besides the screen - i've already acknowledged that its a great screen). you said "many more features" - again - please list.

Your precious iphone does not have any of these features and technological advancements at least natively and I still dont see how these phones look the same with the screen off, you are blinded by your own notions.................

Infinity Display
Samsung calls it an “Infinity Display.” We call it flat-out gorgeous. Apple has been a bit behind the times for several smartphone generations now when it comes to its flagship phones’ screen-to-body ratio, mainly because it has used the same iPhone design for three consecutive years. The gap between Apple and its rivals has never been wider than it is now, of course, thanks to the new LG G6 and Samsung’s Galaxy S8 and S8+.

The new Galaxy S phones feature faces that are each 83% screen. The side bezels are barely there, as was the case last year, but the real story is the significantly thinned bezels above and below the display. This new design dramatically enhances the user experience, and it looks great as well. Of course, it also doesn’t hurt that Samsung’s new Quad HD+ Super AMOLED displays are the most stunning smartphone screens yet.

Curved edges
Samsung’s first smartphone with a curved edge was a total gimmick. In 2017, however, that’s no longer the case. The symmetrical curved front and back glass on the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ make the phones feel so much thinner than they actually are. They’re so comfortable in the hand, and reach is improved as well, thanks to the curves.

Meanwhile, my go-to smartphone, the iPhone 7 Plus, isn’t comfortable at all to use with one hand. Also of note, it has a display that is smaller than the screens on both new Galaxy S models, and yet the phone itself is about the same size as the Galaxy S8+.

Desktop Experience
With the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+, consumers inch closer to a future without any need for traditional computers.

Samsung’s new DeX Station accessory allows users to dock their Galaxy S8 or S8+ and connect it to a monitor, keyboard and mouse. The desktop-optimized Android experience is lightning fast — it actually looks and feel a lot like Chrome OS, for obvious reasons. While any app is accessible in desktop mode, Samsung’s own apps have been optimized for the Desktop Experience. Some third-party apps have as well, most notably Microsoft’s mobile Office suite.

Iris scanner
Apple changed the game when it introduced the first iPhone with a Touch ID fingerprint scanner, and now every flagship phone out there has a scanner for quick unlocking and payment authentication. Of course variety is the spice of life, and you can never have too many options when it comes to mobile security.

Samsung’s Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ include the iris scanner from last year’s ill-fated Galaxy Note 7, and it can be used to unlock the phone or to gain access to the handset’s Secure Folder.

Face recognition
Speaking of new security options, the S8 and S8+ also include full facial recognition enabled by the upgraded 8-megapixel front-facing camera. For the time being, face recognition can only be used to unlock the phones.

Bixby AND Google Assistant
Sticking with the theme of “choice,” Samsung is also giving users their choice of virtual personal assistants. Google’s popular Google Assistant is included on the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+, as is Samsung’s own new personal assistant Bixby. iPhone users have access to third-party voice assistants as well, but they’re severely crippled since Apple doesn’t allow developers to access key components of iOS.

Bixby Vision
An extension of Samsung’s new Bixby solution, Bixby Vision uses object recognition, text recognition and location data to add another layer of functionality to its personal assistant. Using the phone’s camera, Bixby can “see” objects or points of interest and offer information pertaining to them. Bixby Vision can also translate text in real time in more than 50 languages.

Third-party developers will have access to Bixby Vision as well, so the possibilities are endless.

New 10nm processor
Apple is THE leader when it comes to smartphone chipsets, but Samsung beat Apple to the punch with the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+. Both the Snapdragon 835 and the Exynos 8895 are 10nm chips, offering dramatic improvements in both performance and efficiency. Apple is working on a new 10nm SoC as well, but it won’t be found in any iPhones until this coming September.

Wireless charging
Wireless charging is another feature Apple is working on for its next-generation iPhones, but Samsung phones have supported wireless charging for years. The Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ ship with wireless charging support as well, of course, including Qi and Samsung’s own fast wireless charging tech.

Fast charging
Did someone say fast charging? The large 3,000 mAh and 3,500 mAh batteries in Samsung’s new phones fill up in no time thanks to support for the latest available fast-charging technologies.


Boom don't forget the Gear VR .................and all of those software enhancements in Touchwiz and a real file manager...so much more

 

[shk718]

Your precious iphone does not have any of these features and technological advancements at least natively and I still dont see how these phones look the same with the screen off, you are blinded by your own notions.................

Infinity Display
Samsung calls it an “Infinity Display.” We call it flat-out gorgeous. Apple has been a bit behind the times for several smartphone generations now when it comes to its flagship phones’ screen-to-body ratio, mainly because it has used the same iPhone design for three consecutive years. The gap between Apple and its rivals has never been wider than it is now, of course, thanks to the new LG G6 and Samsung’s Galaxy S8 and S8+.

The new Galaxy S phones feature faces that are each 83% screen. The side bezels are barely there, as was the case last year, but the real story is the significantly thinned bezels above and below the display. This new design dramatically enhances the user experience, and it looks great as well. Of course, it also doesn’t hurt that Samsung’s new Quad HD+ Super AMOLED displays are the most stunning smartphone screens yet.

Curved edges
Samsung’s first smartphone with a curved edge was a total gimmick. In 2017, however, that’s no longer the case. The symmetrical curved front and back glass on the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ make the phones feel so much thinner than they actually are. They’re so comfortable in the hand, and reach is improved as well, thanks to the curves.

Meanwhile, my go-to smartphone, the iPhone 7 Plus, isn’t comfortable at all to use with one hand. Also of note, it has a display that is smaller than the screens on both new Galaxy S models, and yet the phone itself is about the same size as the Galaxy S8+.

Desktop Experience
With the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+, consumers inch closer to a future without any need for traditional computers.

Samsung’s new DeX Station accessory allows users to dock their Galaxy S8 or S8+ and connect it to a monitor, keyboard and mouse. The desktop-optimized Android experience is lightning fast — it actually looks and feel a lot like Chrome OS, for obvious reasons. While any app is accessible in desktop mode, Samsung’s own apps have been optimized for the Desktop Experience. Some third-party apps have as well, most notably Microsoft’s mobile Office suite.

Iris scanner
Apple changed the game when it introduced the first iPhone with a Touch ID fingerprint scanner, and now every flagship phone out there has a scanner for quick unlocking and payment authentication. Of course variety is the spice of life, and you can never have too many options when it comes to mobile security.

Samsung’s Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ include the iris scanner from last year’s ill-fated Galaxy Note 7, and it can be used to unlock the phone or to gain access to the handset’s Secure Folder.

Face recognition
Speaking of new security options, the S8 and S8+ also include full facial recognition enabled by the upgraded 8-megapixel front-facing camera. For the time being, face recognition can only be used to unlock the phones.

Bixby AND Google Assistant
Sticking with the theme of “choice,” Samsung is also giving users their choice of virtual personal assistants. Google’s popular Google Assistant is included on the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+, as is Samsung’s own new personal assistant Bixby. iPhone users have access to third-party voice assistants as well, but they’re severely crippled since Apple doesn’t allow developers to access key components of iOS.

Bixby Vision
An extension of Samsung’s new Bixby solution, Bixby Vision uses object recognition, text recognition and location data to add another layer of functionality to its personal assistant. Using the phone’s camera, Bixby can “see” objects or points of interest and offer information pertaining to them. Bixby Vision can also translate text in real time in more than 50 languages.

Third-party developers will have access to Bixby Vision as well, so the possibilities are endless.

New 10nm processor
Apple is THE leader when it comes to smartphone chipsets, but Samsung beat Apple to the punch with the Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+. Both the Snapdragon 835 and the Exynos 8895 are 10nm chips, offering dramatic improvements in both performance and efficiency. Apple is working on a new 10nm SoC as well, but it won’t be found in any iPhones until this coming September.

Wireless charging
Wireless charging is another feature Apple is working on for its next-generation iPhones, but Samsung phones have supported wireless charging for years. The Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ ship with wireless charging support as well, of course, including Qi and Samsung’s own fast wireless charging tech.

Fast charging
Did someone say fast charging? The large 3,000 mAh and 3,500 mAh batteries in Samsung’s new phones fill up in no time thanks to support for the latest available fast-charging technologies.


Boom don't forget the Gear VR .................and all of those software enhancements in Touchwiz and a real file manager...so much more

iphone has curved edges

desktop experience - yah right - no one is gonna use it plus $160 for the dock.

iris scanner - "To use the iris scanner to authenticate yourself, users will need to lift the phone to eye level at arm’s length and wait for the iris scanner to capture the data." and " in recent days it was shown to have a loop hole. A user revealed that the Galaxy S8 can be unlocked by sampling using a picture of the phone’s user where the eyes are visible. By taking a photo of the Galaxy S8’s owner and by placing it in front of the phone’s iris scanner, the flagship can easily be unlocked. So the Galaxy S8’s authentication system is far from being bulletproof." so basically a gimmick

face recognition - same security flaw as above -

Bixby isn't even shipping yet.

10nm processor - iphone 7's processor beats it in real world tests

fast charging - ok i'll give you that - but isn't that the tech that helped to get them in trouble last time? and its not new tech.

 

[DaveOP]

Have you never used Apple Pay? You realise if the touch sensor was on the back on the phone your hand will blocking up the pay point which the back of your phone should be touching.

Have you ever used it? You know that you dont have to physically tap anything, right? You can use ApplePay from 6 inches away, at almost every terminal. I use it almost daily.

 

[theluggage]

you didn't read my post. I said - with the screen turned off you can't tell the two apart.

If it is so dark that you can't see the outline of the screen (which is completely different), or the honking great round home button/fingerprint sensor at the bottom of the iPhone, or the extra sensors at the top of the S8 then any two phones will look the same.

A bezel-less iPhone is something Jony Ives has wanted to make for years. This has been reported on for several years now.

...and Samsung has been making and selling smartphones with no bezels on two sides since the Galaxy S6 Edge in 2015 (and took one step in that direction in 2014).

I quite agree that the early Samsung Galaxy phones and tablets (and the whole concept of Android, which was a Blackberry-like button-driven system until the iPhone came out) were, shall we say, strongly inspired (cough!) by Apple: I remember how all the adverts showed the Galaxy running the 'Apps' screen presumably because it looked more iPhone-like than the actual Android home screen (although Android's configurable home screens & widgets were one area where it's always beaten iOS) - the early Samsung tablets even had a proprietary connector that looked just like an Apple 30-pin connector (but black).

But at some stage, the tables turned. Since around the iPhone 5 (when Apple nearly blew it by telling everybody they didn't want a large-screen phone) they've been playing catch-up.

(However, I do understand that the pictures that came with the article above are not from Apple, but they really do look like a photoshopped S8).

 

[shk718]

If it is so dark that you can't see the outline of the screen (which is completely different), or the honking great round home button/fingerprint sensor at the bottom of the iPhone, or the extra sensors at the top of the S8 then any two phones will look the same.



...and Samsung has been making and selling smartphones with no bezels on two sides since the Galaxy S6 Edge in 2015 (and took one step in that direction in 2014).

I quite agree that the early Samsung Galaxy phones and tablets (and the whole concept of Android, which was a Blackberry-like button-driven system until the iPhone came out) were, shall we say, strongly inspired (cough!) by Apple: I remember how all the adverts showed the Galaxy running the 'Apps' screen presumably because it looked more iPhone-like than the actual Android home screen (although Android's configurable home screens & widgets were one area where it's always beaten iOS) - the early Samsung tablets even had a proprietary connector that looked just like an Apple 30-pin connector (but black).

But at some stage, the tables turned. Since around the iPhone 5 (when Apple nearly blew it by telling everybody they didn't want a large-screen phone) they've been playing catch-up.

(However, I do understand that the pictures that came with the article above are not from Apple, but they really do look like a photoshopped S8).

Depends on your definition of "catch up". Each company is doing different things. I don't think you can really say Apple is catching up to samsung. Samsung is the leader in screen technology and their phones excel in that area - having said that the screen on the iphone 7 is gorgeous. Apple is the leader in chips and its series of chips is second to none (A10-fusion, W1, S2, T1) Apples the only manufacturer with 3d touch, SIRI and Maps work in multiple countries. And Samsung's bloat-ware is catching up to nobody.

 

[ElQben]

Pretty disgusting how the exploitation train needs to ramp up to satisfy the crazy aglo-centric demand for ONE particular product, but hey, that's life. Let's be glad we can read blogs in comfort and not have to work for Pegatron at slightly beter than slave wages.