iPhone 8 Said to Have 3GB of RAM and 64GB/256GB Storage Options

[BoltmanLives]

I went with the iPhone a year program purely out of convenience, not for the purposes of "financing". I get to have a new phone every year without the hassle of actually trying to sell it. I'm sure I could make out better financially I did sell the phone myself instead of trading it in to Apple, but I'd rather pay to not have to. My choice, yours can and may differ!

"I get to have..."

That's fine but in essence you are renting an iphone monthly for life for a monthly fee, most won't do that as its not financially a great way to go. If you don't mind adding another ever increasing monthly expense and paying Apl full MSRP just to get latest model yearly... . more power to you, just don't expect many to follow that rental for new phone at full MSRP path.

Most people get mortgages , insurance payments, car payments...many cut the line off at expensive apl devices in terms of continual renting for life. Not too long ago an Iphone was $199 not $749 divided into payments

 

[I7guy]

"I get to have..."

That's fine but in essence you are renting an iphone monthly for life for a monthly fee, most won't do that as its not financially a great way to go. If you don't mind adding another ever increasing monthly expense and paying Apl full MSRP just to get latest model yearly... . more power to you, just don't expect many to follow that rental for new phone at full MSRP path.

Most people get mortgages , insurance payments, car payments...many cut the line off at expensive apl devices in terms of continual renting for life. Not too long ago an Iphone was $199 not $749 divided into payments

It's not only an iPhone that's rented. Any device payment plan is rented, but give me 0% loan and I'll rent; that's a great deal.

 

[BoltmanLives]

It's not only an iPhone that's rented. Any device payment plan is rented, but give me 0% loan and I'll rent; that's a great deal.

How is paying MSRP every year a 'great deal" especially with as little change as Iphone has gone through?

Great deal for Apl and investors not seeing the great deal for you..explain please.

Is it because the price is so high you can't afford it outright of pocket? So you get more than you can afford?

Would you normally buy a high priced Apl phone every single year? why? What does it do for you your previous iPhone lacked?

Seems excessive to me, not very rational thinking.

 

[I7guy]

How is paying MSRP every year a 'great deal" especially with as little change as Iphone has gone through?

Great deal for Apl and investors not seeing the great deal for you..explain please.

Is it because the price is so high you can't afford it outright of pocket? So you get more than you can afford?

Would you normally buy a high priced Apl phone every single year? why? What does it do for you your previous iPhone lacked?

Seems excessive to me, not very rational thinking.

I see more than enough "change" to justify my purchases. But "enough change" is subjective and individual and applies to every device including Samsung, Sony, htc.

However since you asked i bought the 6s outright and the 7 outright. But instead of outright a 0% payment plan I making me money.

As far as "rational" thinking...to each their own.

 

[BoltmanLives]

I see more than enough "change" to justify my purchases. But "enough change" is subjective and individual and applies to every device including Samsung, Sony, htc.

However since you asked i bought the 6s outright and the 7 outright. But instead of outright a 0% payment plan I making me money.

As far as "rational" thinking...to each their own.

How do you make money with this loan scheme? are you investing the balance you would have shelled out for full price somehow? Why pay Apl MSRP for every phone? Seems expensive as can be.

What was better on the 7 than the 6S..no headphone jack? Color?

 

[Roadstar]

How do you make money with this loan scheme? are you investing the balance you would have shelled out for full price somehow? Why pay Apl MSRP for every phone? Seems expensive as can be.

What was better on the 7 than the 6S..no headphone jack? Color?

Water resistance and much improved low light photography are the first things that come to mind.

 

[BoltmanLives]

Water resistance and much improved low light photography are the first things that come to mind.

you swim with your phone? Was the 6s leaky? These are questions for for the OP

$749 for low light ...does not make sense? Again, how are you/he making money by my calculations you/he spend over $1500 on phones in under two years for yourself/himself?

 

[Roadstar]

you swim with your phone? Was the 6s leaky? for the OP

$749 for low light ...does not make sense? Again, how are you/he making money by my calculations you/he spend over $1500 on phones in under two years for yourself?

Well I don't swim with my phone, but I do like not having to care that much if it's e.g. raining. It's expensive indeed and if I had continued at my previous job, I would've most likely stuck with the company-issued 6s I had. However, as I switched jobs and the new place had some less enticing stock versions and a BYOD option, I opted for BYOD and got myself the 7. There were at least those two genuine improvements for my use despite having a setback as well (headphone jack). However, if it hadn't been for the job change, I think I'd just have used my 6s for another year.

 

[BoltmanLives]

Well I don't swim with my phone, but I do like not having to care that much if it's e.g. raining. It's expensive indeed and if I had continued at my previous job, I would've most likely stuck with the company-issued 6s I had. However, as I switched jobs and the new place had some less enticing stock versions and a BYOD option, I opted for BYOD and got myself the 7. There were at least those two genuine improvements for my use despite having a setback as well (headphone jack). However, if it hadn't been for the job change, I think I'd just have used my 6s for another year.

Fair enough, I would assume the 6s could stand up to rain. My Lumia 635 survived 20 seconds underwater and does not claim waterproof.

 

[Roadstar]

Fair enough, I would assume the 6s could stand up to rain. My Lumia 635 survived 20 seconds underwater and does not claim waterproof.

It would most likely be OK indeed, but with devices that expensive it's nice to have that extra protection when exposing the phone to elements.

Back in the day I used a cheap ZTE phone as my waterproof and shockproof phone. It claimed neither but it was cheap enough for me not to care if it took a dive or got smashed up

 

[I7guy]

How do you make money with this loan scheme? are you investing the balance you would have shelled out for full price somehow? Why pay Apl MSRP for every phone? Seems expensive as can be.

What was better on the 7 than the 6S..no headphone jack? Color?

Some responses already made on the differences. I don't have to justify why I thought the upgrade was useful to me, only that it was useful. We will never agree on the details. But the bigger picture is I challenged your point of view "people don't find it a meaningful upgrade" as I did.

As far as the loan if I'm paying retail anyway splitting the payments on a 0% loan is making me money.

 

[BoltmanLives]

Some responses already made on the differences. I don't have to justify why I thought the upgrade was useful to me, only that it was useful. We will never agree on the details. But the bigger picture is I challenged your point of view "people don't find it a meaningful upgrade" as I did.

As far as the loan if I'm paying retail anyway splitting the payments on a 0% loan is making me money.

Still don't get the 'making money " part..again it seems you are out around $1500 in less than two years for very similar phones apart from one having a headphone jack, the other slightly better in low light? Does not add up.

Most I paid was $298 for my 950...you seriously talking 5X more? why?

 

[I7guy]

Still don't get the 'making money " part..again it seems you are out around $1500 in less than two years for very similar phones apart from one having a headphone jack, the other slightly better in low light? Does not add up.

Most I paid was $298 for my 950...you seriously talking 5X more? why?

It's a value call as to whether any purchase is worth it. Considering a lot of the phone time within my day is iMessage and FaceTime with family, there is value to me. May not be for someone else. YMMV.

 

[BoltmanLives]

It's a value call as to whether any purchase is with it. Considering a lot of the phone time within my day is iMessage and FaceTime with family, there is value to me. May not be for someone else. YMMV.

But why 6s to 7 it cannot just be low light , what else? Does not seem like a good value play here. Am I missing something? Pretty sure 6s did Facetime and iMessage just fine

 

[I7guy]

But why 6s to 7 it cannot just be low light , what else? Does not seem like a good value play here. Am I missing something? Pretty sure 6s did Facetime and iMessage just fine

Soc upgrades, 128 gig, camera upgrades, home button plus others made it worth it to me. I know people who buy cars every year, may not be worth it to most people.

 

[DanielDcruz25]

Its also rumored to come with a glass back that would provide a totally new look to the next gen iPhone 8. No doubt its gonna be a really expensive deal. I think you guys should look at this: https://goo.gl/YwOIAw

 

[Bacillus]

Its also rumored to come with a glass back that would provide a totally new look to the next gen iPhone 8. No doubt its gonna be a really expensive deal. I think you guys should look at this: https://goo.gl/YwOIAw

How difficult can it be to avoid millions of scattering screens & devices by using plexiglass instead of glass ?

 

[EdT]

How difficult can it be to avoid millions of scattering screens & devices by using plexiglass instead of glass ?

I may be wrong but weren't the early iPhones glass encased? I don't recall that being a problem if they were glass encased, but there may have been issues and I just didn't know about them.

 

[Bacillus]

I may be wrong but weren't the early iPhones glass encased? I don't recall that being a problem if they were glass encased, but there may have been issues and I just didn't know about them.

You're right (iPhone 4) and guess how many became scattered.
Millions.

 

[BittenAnkles]

"
....Most people get mortgages , insurance payments, car payments...many cut the line off at expensive apl devices in terms of continual renting for life. Not too long ago an Iphone was $199 not $749 divided into payments

The iPhone was never $199. You paid FULL PRICE for the phone with the 2-yr contract from your carrier. The $199 was a down payment then you had $450 more to go over the next 24 months ($199 up front was for $649 model). Notice how new wireless plans that don't offer device subsidies (US plans for this example) are about $20 cheaper than old plans? That's your monthly phone payment going away.

 

[BoltmanLives]

The iPhone was never $199. You paid FULL PRICE for the phone with the 2-yr contract from your carrier. The $199 was a down payment then you had $450 more to go over the next 24 months ($199 up front was for $649 model). Notice how new wireless plans that don't offer device subsidies (US plans for this example) are about $20 cheaper than old plans? That's your monthly phone payment going away.

In people's minds though they see it as $199 vs $849, just the way it is. Part of this was apl burying the true costs in contracts essentially fooling the public. Since the iPhone came out 5x more at $500+ than competitors, they had to hide the cost.

How often in the past with subsidies did you hear cheerful "My time to upgrade!" people wanted to pay that $199 and get a new iPhone. They blamed the extra $450 on "high carrier costs" and gave Apl a pass.

Now that true EQUIPMENT costs are exposed you rarely hear that anymore and people hold onto their cracked iPhones forever. As its borderline insane to keep purchasing $849 iPhones every year

Part of the reason Iphone has declined from over 20% globally to 12%. Apl made the subsidy "smoke and mirror"' hiding MSRP cost, now they pay on the back end when exposed in phone sales declines

 

[I7guy]

In people's minds though they see it as $199 vs $849, just the way it is. Part of this was apl burying the true costs in contracts essentially fooling the public. Since the iPhone came out 5x more at $500+ than competitors, they had to hide the cost.

How often in the past with subsidies did you hear cheerful "My time to upgrade!" people wanted to pay that $199 and get a new iPhone. They blamed the extra $450 on "high carrier costs" and gave Apl a pass.

Now that true EQUIPMENT costs are exposed you rarely hear that anymore and people hold onto their cracked iPhones forever. As its borderline insane to keep purchasing $849 iPhones every year

Part of the reason Iphone has declined from over 20% globally to 12%. Apl made the subsidy "smoke and mirror"' hiding MSRP cost, now they pay on the back end when exposed in phone sales declines

This is the entire industry in the US, which maybe why cheaper android phones are popular in some places.

I'm used to paying msrp for my phones, been doing it since the iPhone 4.

And as you know I now have a 6s and 7.

I can't speculate on the masses, only know what I do.

 

[BittenAnkles]

In people's minds though they see it as $199 vs $849, just the way it is. Part of this was apl burying the true costs in contracts essentially fooling the public. Since the iPhone came out 5x more at $500+ than competitors, they had to hide the cost.

How often in the past with subsidies did you hear cheerful "My time to upgrade!" people wanted to pay that $199 and get a new iPhone. They blamed the extra $450 on "high carrier costs" and gave Apl a pass.

Now that true EQUIPMENT costs are exposed you rarely hear that anymore and people hold onto their cracked iPhones forever. As its borderline insane to keep purchasing $849 iPhones every year

Part of the reason Iphone has declined from over 20% globally to 12%. Apl made the subsidy "smoke and mirror"' hiding MSRP cost, now they pay on the back end when exposed in phone sales declines

Why does the price keep moving up? First $749, now $849.... For the record (again), $199 subsidized price corresponds to the $649 model. That aside, what is so insane with getting a new phone every year? If you pay outright, you can often get $500+ for your used version on resale and you're more than halfway to paying for the next phone. If you do the Apple payment plan, you pay 50% of the cost of the phone, then trade it in for brand new phone that you pay 50% of the cost for, and so on... You never have to pay full price for any one model, you get all the new features, you're always in warranty, and you never really have to worry about battery degradation issues.

Just because something seems expensive to you, doesn't make it insane.

Also, I can't think of a single manufacturer who didn't use US carrier subsidies, so it wasn't "smoke and mirror" by Apple. Their global market share decline has nothing to do with the way the price was presented. It does matter what the total cost is, and Apple is loosing share to inexpensive Android devices in places like India. Those people were never going to be iPhone customers anyway.

 

[anson42]

"I get to have..."

That's fine but in essence you are renting an iphone monthly for life for a monthly fee, most won't do that as its not financially a great way to go. If you don't mind adding another ever increasing monthly expense and paying Apl full MSRP just to get latest model yearly... . more power to you, just don't expect many to follow that rental for new phone at full MSRP path.

Most people get mortgages , insurance payments, car payments...many cut the line off at expensive apl devices in terms of continual renting for life. Not too long ago an Iphone was $199 not $749 divided into payments

[doublepost=1487884901][/doublepost]I have all those monthly payments, too, like most people. And like most people I get to decide how I want to spend what I have left over and this is one way. I like "renting" my iPhone, same as if I leased a car and traded it in every three years for another.

How are you not paying MSRP for a new iPhone? The only way I know is to buy an older model at a discount after a new model has been released. Well, I clearly don't fall into the camp that waits to buy an older model at a discount, and neither does anyone who buys a new iPhone after a new release. You know them, too, it's those 100s of millions of folks who buy the new model Some percentage will get a "free" or discounted model because of a carrier promotion but everyone else is paying MSRP.

I'm not sure why you're even posting here. You are not an iPhone user nor apparently an Apple fan. Apologies in advance for leaving others to respond to your future musings...

 

[KAZphoto]

The homebutton of the 7 is an evolutionary step towards an on/in-screen button. Because it is without moving parts and using the taptic engine /force touch it appears you are pressing a real button. So the next logical step is to embed this in-screen while you' ll still have the feeling it is a real button.
For iphone 8/x it raises 2 questions:
1. Will the the virtual button be really flat just like the rest of the screen or will it still have a "dimple" so you can feel it? This part of the screen will still be able to display content ofcourse.
2. Will there still be touchid embedded in the virtual button?
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Yes, the sidebezels will really have to go, the 2.5d front glass has a slight curve, i hope the new oled screens will at least have the same curve for asthetic reasons. So less curved than a s7, but enough to be really edge to edge.

Something like this(just the part of the screen)

Or, a short curve like this

I agree with that as stated. I just don't see them implementing all that for a one off generation. I could be wrong but I think these are very early rumors for the 2018 iPhone. Just imho though. These rumors are also a lot of recently patented stuff which wouldn't make sense for the timeline given these new phones will be out in ~6-7 months. And they will be producing them in 2-3 I would think. I don't rule out they might change the form factor slightly this year, but I doubt it. Maybe slightly.